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Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" - update [Re: XXHEMI] #1563127
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It was a race car all its life. Just wasn't cut up. So the Ohio low mileage car was in the shoot with this bee? I have several memories of this car...others in the family older than I have many more!

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It was a race car all its life. Just wasn't cut up. So the Ohio low mileage car was in the shoot with this bee? I have several memories of this car...others in the family older than I have many more!




Unless two of them went to England? That is the car.

Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" - update [Re: XXHEMI] #1563129
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I used to work with John, the Ohio owner. Nice guy, used to see him at Norwalk and dragway 42 in the 90's with the car...always one of my favorites...

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Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" - update [Re: XXHEMI] #1563130
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Mopar 70 what was the interior color on the Black A12 RR you are talking about??
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Hey Ed and Pete, picked this one up over the summer. X9 buckets console like your car.


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Re: black A12 bee "trans by Bruce" - update [Re: His and Her 69's] #1563132
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Mopar 70 what was the interior color on the Black A12 RR you are talking about??
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The reason I asked was there was a black A12 with a pewter interior that sold a few years ago. Just wondering if it was the same one.

Dr. Mopar your A12 looked better with the other rims on it. It still Looks Good but I liked it better with the Mags on it. BUT it isn't my car so it is just my opinion.
Later David

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I'm curious to know the production numbers for black A12's.



This is my A12 spreadsheet. Cars that have surfaced so far. Click on attachment for full size view.

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There might be some confusion here about the A12 Road Runner featured in the pictures from Santa Pod. There are two A12 Road Runners in the collection - the Ohio car (RM23) is currently in storage in the States. The car featured in the photo-shoot came over to England in late 99/early 2000s (Vin RM21M9A294936)and has been restored back to original. We would very much appreciate any information/history on either of these cars. This picture is of the RM21 at the RPM workshop in England.

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The reason I asked was there was a black A12 with a pewter interior that sold a few years ago. Just wondering if it was the same one.




There was an original owner Road Runner, hardtop, black with Platinum bench seat that sold out of Ohio not too long ago, it was an early build car.
Also a black hardtop Road Runner 4-speed with Platinum buckets that is/was in Florida.
There is another black Road Runner with Platinum interior and white top out of Georgia, but I've yet to find any data on it.

On a side note, of the 6 black Bee's known:
2 are coupes with black bench, column auto.
3 are hardtops with black bench, 4-speed.
1 is the hardtop with red bench, 4-speed.

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And this is a photo of the Ohio ex racer Road Runner that you refer to, as I say currently in storage. We really would appreciate any history on either of these wondrous beasts.

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I used to work with John, the Ohio owner. Nice guy, used to see him at Norwalk and dragway 42 in the 90's with the car...always one of my favorites...




Rich , when was that picture taken ? I have always felt that car had the wrong Bee on it when it got dragged out of that Ohio garage ... unless it had red on one side and white on the other ? Black on black should have had white and there is no real way of telling unless it is scratched on the broadcast sheet I believe ?

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I used to work with John, the Ohio owner. Nice guy, used to see him at Norwalk and dragway 42 in the 90's with the car...always one of my favorites...




Rich , when was that picture taken ? I have always felt that car had the wrong Bee on it when it got dragged out of that Ohio garage ... unless it had red on one side and white on the other ? Black on black should have had white and there is no real way of telling unless it is scratched on the broadcast sheet I believe ?




John, not sure when it was taken, but would guess mid 80's maybe? When I saw the car in the mid 90's it had the white bee on both sides. I believe when the car was restored, it was changed to red?

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A little bit OT, but is there something unique to the A12 Superbees front suspension. The reason I ask, there is a guy in my town with a black 69 Bee and he says its an A12 because of the front-end?


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A little bit OT, but is there something unique to the A12 Superbees front suspension. The reason I ask, there is a guy in my town with a black 69 Bee and he says its an A12 because of the front-end?




Well there are just a couple of things that most all A12's seem to have but they are also available on Hemi B-bodies and come with axle packages and one small thing to do with the LCA that is a small "telltale" that A12 owners tend to keep in their pocket But I don't see how anyone could see any differences without crawling under the car or being run over by it

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And this is a photo of the Ohio ex racer Road Runner that you refer to, as I say currently in storage. We really would appreciate any history on either of these wondrous beasts.




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I was not sure if there where two car? I only know of the Ohio car as I was told I could purchase it. Very nice car!

I do believe you guys have a 71 Six Pack Cuda I owned? I did make copies of all the original paper work if you did not receive it with the car. If not please let me know.

Ed

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As far I know everything that was related to the car went with it. We had met with the 2nd owner and he I believe was given some photos, maybe a copy of a video.

Thanks for the production numbers, neat info!

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I used to work with John, the Ohio owner. Nice guy, used to see him at Norwalk and dragway 42 in the 90's with the car...always one of my favorites...




Rich , when was that picture taken ? I have always felt that car had the wrong Bee on it when it got dragged out of that Ohio garage ... unless it had red on one side and white on the other ? Black on black should have had white and there is no real way of telling unless it is scratched on the broadcast sheet I believe ?




When I bought the car it had orig paint and the bee logo was white. I decided on the red bee when the resto was finished. I just like the way it looks with the redlines and the red sixpack decal on the hood.

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Ed do you have or did you buy the Black A12 RR that Dr. Mopar had at the reunion?? I know you had the one that was raced in the FAST series but I thought you got the one from Dr. Mopar in Mi with original paint I believe.
Just wondering if you still have a black A12 RR.
David

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I used to work with John, the Ohio owner. Nice guy, used to see him at Norwalk and dragway 42 in the 90's with the car...always one of my favorites...




Rich , when was that picture taken ? I have always felt that car had the wrong Bee on it when it got dragged out of that Ohio garage ... unless it had red on one side and white on the other ? Black on black should have had white and there is no real way of telling unless it is scratched on the broadcast sheet I believe ?




John, not sure when it was taken, but would guess mid 80's maybe? When I saw the car in the mid 90's it had the white bee on both sides. I believe when the car was restored, it was changed to red?




I just went back and looked at the picture Pete put up in he condition when he had it, the red of the reflector for some reason made me think it had a red bee logo, it's actually white, the glare from the flash is playing tricks with my old eyes ... and memory, I could have sworn it had red ones way back??

Sorry for the confusion , I like them all black with white , but I'm biased.

I wish I could have purchased that car, to me it is the BEST Mopar to have ever rolledd off the line at Lynch Rd.

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