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428 R3 Block Build #1559664
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We have a cool small block build going on, R block, 4.125 Bore, 4"crank, Indy 360 Heads CNC ported, solid roller, 14 to 1 compression etc. Had to clearance block for the new comp lifter with the inside tie bars and we bushed it due to the lifter uncovering the oil galley at lift. Before picture

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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1559665
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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1559666
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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1559667
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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1559668
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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1559669
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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1559670
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Looks nice! What is your target hp on this motor?


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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: 1967dartgt] #1559671
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HAPPY NEW YEAR Pete and Chuck!!!!

Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: dwayne welder] #1559672
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Cool.......keep em' coming.

Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1559673
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Pete. You and Chuck are mad scientists while in the closet of being artist.

Missed you guys in Detroit, was in and out.
Happy Holidays.

Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1559674
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59 degree beast !

Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: tubtar] #1559675
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And all I can do is sit here and


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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: dartman366] #1559676
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How will you hold 14:1 compression with the top 4 cylinder head bolts removed??

Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: 410mopar] #1559677
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How will you hold 14:1 compression with the top 4 cylinder head bolts removed??




I would like to know as well. Not questioning. Just getting bad ideas for later down the road!


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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: tubtar] #1559678
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Cometic gasket mls head gasket. It's the same as a stock sb mopar engine now. You have never seen a sb mopar with compression?


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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: 1967dartgt] #1559679
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10 1/2" head studs will hold just fine.

With 7/16"in the original 10 the extra 8 3/8 bolts are necessary.

It appears a lot of clean up machining could be done on this block.


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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: 410mopar] #1559680
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How will you hold 14:1 compression with the top 4 cylinder head bolts removed??




I ran my 416 at 14:1 with cometics and ARP studs with no problems, it is still running great for the new owner after 4 years and around 500 or so passes.


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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: fullmetaljacket] #1559681
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Pete. You and Chuck are mad scientists while in the closet of being artist.

Missed you guys in Detroit, was in and out.
Happy Holidays.




Yea and there Lab is something else

Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1559682
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How will you hold 14:1 compression with the top 4 cylinder head bolts removed??




I ran my 416 at 14:1 with cometics and ARP studs with no problems, it is still running great for the new owner after 4 years and around 500 or so passes.




Haven't had any problems with mine either.


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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: Jacob Pitt] #1559683
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I have an early R1 with diamond heads at 15.3 with a 1008 and don't have any problems. nice work by the way.


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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1559684
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O.K I guess we can throw it in the Cuda.What do you think the HP is going to be?

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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: RickRoss] #1559685
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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1559691
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Pete, looks like a good candidate for a billet timing cover. I have a batch of parts in process at the moment.

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Pete, looks like a good candidate for a billet timing cover. I have a batch of parts in process at the moment.


Nice cover. Where can I get one?

Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: Plymouth340] #1559693
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Pete, looks like a good candidate for a billet timing cover. I have a batch of parts in process at the moment.


Nice cover. Where can I get one?




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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: Plymouth340] #1559694
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mancini racing also has them.

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Pete, looks like a good candidate for a billet timing cover. I have a batch of parts in process at the moment.




All I see on your site is for the BB mopar. Where is the SB?


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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: AndyF] #1559696
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Pete, looks like a good candidate for a billet timing cover. I have a batch of parts in process at the moment.




You have a pm Andy

Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: AndyF] #1559697
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Andy, what heads are on that blue engine?

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W2 heads. They are unused W2 heads that still have their original boxes. I think the label has a 1977 date on it.

Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: BJS racing] #1559699
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Pete, looks like a good candidate for a billet timing cover. I have a batch of parts in process at the moment.




All I see on your site is for the BB mopar. Where is the SB?




Website hasn't been updated yet with the SB covers.

Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1559700
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More parts for the build

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Nice connecting rods

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Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1559702
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T&D 1.65 Rockers

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Something we starting using a while back, can take them in and out without ruining anything

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We have a trick oil pan coming for this engine with custom pick-up. I will post pictures when we get it. This is cool build for sure.

Re: 428 R3 Block Build [Re: PETE@BESTMACHINE] #1559705
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Out of curiosity is that a pn# p5153579 race block. I have that has the same magnum lifter machining and it has that # on driver side front of the block, which should have started life as a basically finished 318 mag configuration

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