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Body work question for those 'sperienced. #1556935 12/31/13 05:11 PM 12/31/13 05:11 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 85 Lavonia, GA cjbill OP member
cjbill OP member Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 85 Lavonia, GA	In continuing to do my underhood clean-up on the '69 300, the driver inner fender has several 3/8" holes from one of the PO's mounting "something" there. Since it is underhood and exposed to higher than normal temps, is it okay to just fill the holes with bondo or use small squares of fiberglass instead before blending and painting? ex-Ford guy, but Mopars nowadays

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: cjbill] #1556936 12/31/13 05:24 PM 12/31/13 05:24 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,291 Kent, Wa 340SHORTY Truck Nut
340SHORTY Truck Nut Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 12,291 Kent, Wa	Weld them then finish them off.. I am truckless..

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: 340SHORTY] #1556937 12/31/13 05:30 PM 12/31/13 05:30 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 85 Lavonia, GA cjbill OP member
cjbill OP member Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 85 Lavonia, GA	Unfortunately, unable to weld. ex-Ford guy, but Mopars nowadays

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: cjbill] #1556938 12/31/13 05:35 PM 12/31/13 05:35 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Unfortunately, unable to weld. Learn

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: Challenger 1] #1556939 12/31/13 05:39 PM 12/31/13 05:39 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 85 Lavonia, GA cjbill OP member
cjbill OP member Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 85 Lavonia, GA	Quote: Quote: Unfortunately, unable to weld. Learn Wow, thanks for the advice, folks, just what I was looking for, I can weld, but am unable to at the moment (welder in storage)...let me put it this way, don't WANT to weld. Last edited by cjbill; 12/31/13 05:40 PM. ex-Ford guy, but Mopars nowadays

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: cjbill] #1556940 12/31/13 05:55 PM 12/31/13 05:55 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio Challenger 1 Too Many Posts
Challenger 1 Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 28,312 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Quote: Quote: Unfortunately, unable to weld. Learn Wow, thanks for the advice, folks, just what I was looking for, I can weld, but am unable to at the moment (welder in storage)...let me put it this way, don't WANT to weld. You even have a welder and don't want to learn?

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: Challenger 1] #1556941 12/31/13 06:00 PM 12/31/13 06:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 85 Lavonia, GA cjbill OP member
cjbill OP member Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 85 Lavonia, GA	No, have a welder, know how (at least basically), but welder in storage about 300 miles away. Stuck right now. Just looking for things that I "can" do right now, instead of sitting on my butt all winter, watching TV, and thinking about doing it. ex-Ford guy, but Mopars nowadays

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: cjbill] #1556942 12/31/13 07:45 PM 12/31/13 07:45 PM
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Powerflow pro stock P Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,322 New Jersey	In my experience bondo will eventually 'pop' from a filled hole without extra support. If you can get to the underside of the hole, put some fiberglass cloth there and then bondo on top. Another approach (so you're only working on the top side of the panel) is to sink the area around the hole with a hammer, then lay one or two layers of fiberglass, then bondo over the whole thing.

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: Powerflow] #1556943 12/31/13 07:52 PM 12/31/13 07:52 PM
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mopars4ever I Live Here M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,726 md	Is it possible to fill the holes with the Eastwoods body solder?

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: cjbill] #1556944 12/31/13 09:26 PM 12/31/13 09:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,437 Omaha Nebraska Brian_wo master
Brian_wo master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,437 Omaha Nebraska	Do it right Find somebody close with a mini mig and weld it,you will be glad you did. who is that guy?

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: Brian_wo] #1556945 12/31/13 09:34 PM 12/31/13 09:34 PM
Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA B BulletBob master
BulletBob master B Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,048 Back home in PA	Welding creates rust Use some body epoxy & glue plugs of metal either in or over them

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: BulletBob] #1556946 12/31/13 10:03 PM 12/31/13 10:03 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,632 Florida STAYcation IcorkSOAK Financed his waterbed
IcorkSOAK Financed his waterbed Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 30,632 Florida STAYcation	There's a guy from Joisey that is a WIZARD at and rattle-can jobs ... he goes through SO MUCH "mud" ... I hear he buys it in 55 gallon drums ....

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: BulletBob] #1556947 12/31/13 10:16 PM 12/31/13 10:16 PM
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Centerline enthusiast Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 348 Texas Hill Country	Quote: Welding creates rust To be a bit more accurate...Welding does not create rust. Improper finishing of the welded metal creates rust. Either weld the holes or find something else to do under the hood until you are able to borrow a welder or retrieve yours. Anything worth doing is worth doing right and glass or filler is NOT the proper or permanent way to fill those holes. Last edited by Centerline; 12/31/13 10:19 PM. Centerline 64 Dodge Polara 426 Street Wedge - For when I want to go fast 99 Corvette Z-06 - For when I want to turn corners

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: Centerline] #1556948 12/31/13 10:34 PM 12/31/13 10:34 PM
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ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	I have cleaned the back and used epoxy to attach a thin piece of sheet metal behind the hole then bondo on the front, also I have "sunk" the hole and used a little bit of fiberglass and epoxy to fill it. Sand it smooth and finish. Both seem to hold up fine. Agree bondo alone won't hold up.

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: cjbill] #1556949 12/31/13 11:00 PM 12/31/13 11:00 PM
Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 85 Lavonia, GA cjbill OP member
cjbill OP member Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 85 Lavonia, GA	Thanks for the advice, all, think I may "try" the bondo thing out on a trial piece of metal first. If I don't like the results, since I am a novice at the whole bondo/fill thing, I'll try to find someone around with a MIG who is willing to attempt it. ex-Ford guy, but Mopars nowadays

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: cjbill] #1556950 01/01/14 03:47 PM 01/01/14 03:47 PM
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screamindriver master Joined: Feb 2004 Posts: 7,197 Harrisburg, Pa.	Welding is best and you've asked for opinions and got them...Mine would be to use "all-metal" brand filler if you have to go that route...It's not going to pop from the heat... Only advice would be to countersink the hole{which could be seen from the backside depending on the location}...Ballpeen hammer and a socket on the backside would work to do the job.. You'd need to feather the filler out not just fill the hole and sand it flat leaving a distinct line between the metal and filler..

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: Centerline] #1556951 01/01/14 04:44 PM 01/01/14 04:44 PM
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DPelletier I Live Here D Joined: Apr 2005 Posts: 15,134 Kelowna, B.C. Canada	Quote: Quote: Welding creates rust To be a bit more accurate...Welding does not create rust. Improper finishing of the welded metal creates rust. Either weld the holes or find something else to do under the hood until you are able to borrow a welder or retrieve yours. Anything worth doing is worth doing right and glass or filler is NOT the proper or permanent way to fill those holes. Weld it or leave the holes....anything else is a waste of time IMO. Dave 1970 Super Bee 440 Six Pack 1974 'Cuda 2008 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Ram 3500 Diesel 2004.5 Ram 2500 Diesel 2003 Ram 3500 Diesel 2006 Durango Limited [url] http://1970superbee.piczo.com [/url]

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: cjbill] #1556952 01/01/14 09:22 PM 01/01/14 09:22 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,572 Jacksonville Florida elitecustombody pro stock
elitecustombody pro stock Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 1,572 Jacksonville Florida	I agree with everyone, do what's right,not what's easy. You might be able to get a cheap flux core welder at Harbor Freight.With 25% off coupon it might be around $50 lol! But if you still can not get a welder,use panel bonding adhesive. Many brands on the market like 3M,SEM,Norton,Fusor,Dominion Seal, Wurth,etc. It works best on ground clean metal.

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: cjbill] #1556953 01/02/14 04:57 PM 01/02/14 04:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,023 pa. D dan9 super stock
dan9 super stock D Joined: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,023 pa.	Maybe use a tiger hair type of filler first then finish with a little bondo.

Re: Body work question for those 'sperienced. [Re: dan9] #1556954 01/03/14 04:41 PM 01/03/14 04:41 PM
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VoodooCLD mopar V Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 460 Oklahoma	If you fill holes with bondo, the bondo will later soak up moisture and crack through, making it look worse than drilled holes. Bondo is meant to go between metal and layers of paint. I'll also vote you should weld, or leave them alone.

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