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How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... #1556040 12/30/13 08:11 PM 12/30/13 08:11 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI D dizuster OP master
dizuster OP master D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI	hmmm.... aren't those manifolds facing the wrong way? 7977223-ResizedImage_1388435050353(1)(1280x720).jpg (595 downloads)

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: dizuster] #1556041 12/30/13 08:26 PM 12/30/13 08:26 PM
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Bad340fish master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 8,027 Tulsa OK	That should wake her up a bit. 68 Barracuda Formula S 340

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: dizuster] #1556042 12/30/13 08:28 PM 12/30/13 08:28 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	That looks like it was made for that OLD ride

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: dizuster] #1556043 12/30/13 08:33 PM 12/30/13 08:33 PM
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733404spdCuda member 7 Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 149 N. Of Detroit, Mi	Are you building the Gen 3 Hemi for your duster or to replace the 360?

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: dizuster] #1556044 12/30/13 08:46 PM 12/30/13 08:46 PM
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Hot 340 master Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 3,395 Pa	5.7?

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: Hot 340] #1556045 12/30/13 08:49 PM 12/30/13 08:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,255 Canada WO23Coronet master
WO23Coronet master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,255 Canada	How did you mount the manifolds backwards? I thought they could only go on one way (non symmetrical bolt pattern), did you swap heads side to side? That'll really make that Savoy dangle

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: Hot 340] #1556046 12/30/13 08:56 PM 12/30/13 08:56 PM
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dizuster OP master D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI	I actually took the 360 out to put a set of decent rods in it, and some more cam. I'm putting a Dana in the car so switching from the 3.23 gear to the 3.55 will require some more RPM on the big end (looking for around 6500 now). But I bought a pair of Gen 3 hemi's cheap so I can start putting one together. They are 5.7's, but with some boost they will make PLENTY of power. I am not sure what I'm doing yet. I just thought that I'd drop it in to see how it fits... manifolds fit nearly perfect, and the trans looks like it will bolt right up to the stock location. It'll drop in pretty easy. I mostly wanted to see how the manifolds fit, and they are perfect. They are a nice 3" outlet too, so they will support a ton of power. You are correct, I flipped the heads left to right to make the manifolds fit. We'll see... unless someone comes along and buys the 360 here, it'll probably be at least another year before I do anything with the hemi. Sure looks good in their though....

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: dizuster] #1556047 12/30/13 09:00 PM 12/30/13 09:00 PM
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MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	You got my attention!!! I'm surprised the car front cover actually fit? IIRC when you swap heads from side to side there maybe an oiling issue? Can't remember what it was. Possibly a drain back issue. Can't wait to see it run. Matt Last edited by MattW; 12/30/13 09:03 PM.

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: dizuster] #1556048 12/30/13 10:41 PM 12/30/13 10:41 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,387 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,387 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: I actually took the 360 out to put a set of decent rods in it, and some more cam. I'm putting a Dana in the car so switching from the 3.23 gear to the 3.55 will require some more RPM on the big end (looking for around 6500 now). But I bought a pair of Gen 3 hemi's cheap so I can start putting one together. They are 5.7's, but with some boost they will make PLENTY of power. I am not sure what I'm doing yet. I just thought that I'd drop it in to see how it fits... manifolds fit nearly perfect, and the trans looks like it will bolt right up to the stock location. It'll drop in pretty easy. I mostly wanted to see how the manifolds fit, and they are perfect. They are a nice 3" outlet too, so they will support a ton of power. You are correct, I flipped the heads left to right to make the manifolds fit. We'll see... unless someone comes along and buys the 360 here, it'll probably be at least another year before I do anything with the hemi. Sure looks good in their though.... Why not put a phord 9" in it considering the limited gear ratios with a Dana for a turbo car... '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: MattW] #1556049 12/30/13 11:15 PM 12/30/13 11:15 PM
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WO23Coronet master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,255 Canada	Quote: You got my attention!!! I'm surprised the car front cover actually fit? IIRC when you swap heads from side to side there maybe an oiling issue? Can't remember what it was. Possibly a drain back issue. Can't wait to see it run. Matt Could the heads be redrilled for the opposite side manifold pattern? Those look like they fit really well, like they were made for going around the steering box. Ever thought of finding a Dana 61? They had a 3.07 gear ratio and only differ abit from the Dana 60. They were found in 1st gen Cummims with the 727

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: dizuster] #1556050 12/30/13 11:45 PM 12/30/13 11:45 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,387 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,387 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	This guy was building one as well... https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...amp;Search=true '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: Dragula] #1556051 12/31/13 12:38 AM 12/31/13 12:38 AM
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dizuster OP master D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI	The only thing I can see different on the heads, is that the egr will need to be plugged. Other then that I can't see why the left and right don't switch. I just started at Chrysler about 2 months ago though, so I'll track someone down from the engine group to verify. I talked with Bob at modern this week about the heads, they can do them but the early heads don't have a ton of valve spring options. That might push me to the later heads (which flow nearly 50cfm out of the box better then the early heads also). So we'll see what I end up doing. Just mocking up for now, but nice to see how easy it fit. The heads don't look to have enough meat in the casting to Redhill the pattern. I already had the right width Dana with disc brakes ready to go, so it didn't make sense to start over with a 9" or 61. The car should run better with some more cam anyway. It's got its tongue hanging out on the big end right now as it is!

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: dizuster] #1556052 12/31/13 01:04 AM 12/31/13 01:04 AM
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fatman member F Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 196 State College, Pennsylvania	I was going to do a 5.7 turbo, having been inspired by your 360. Since my Cuda is an original 440 car, and to simplify things, I'm sticking with the big block, so the 5.7 stuff I bought is available. 2003 5.7 long block, plus 2 6.1 cranks, and a truck timing cover. I thought the high mount alt. might help pipe routing, but who knows. Keep the updates coming, I love reading about that thing !

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: dizuster] #1556053 12/31/13 01:36 AM 12/31/13 01:36 AM
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72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Quote: The only thing I can see different on the heads, is that the egr will need to be plugged. Other then that I can't see why the left and right don't switch. I just started at Chrysler about 2 months ago though, so I'll track someone down from the engine group to verify. I talked with Bob at modern this week about the heads, they can do them but the early heads don't have a ton of valve spring options. That might push me to the later heads (which flow nearly 50cfm out of the box better then the early heads also). So we'll see what I end up doing. Just mocking up for now, but nice to see how easy it fit. The heads don't look to have enough meat in the casting to Redhill the pattern. I already had the right width Dana with disc brakes ready to go, so it didn't make sense to start over with a 9" or 61. The car should run better with some more cam anyway. It's got its tongue hanging out on the big end right now as it is! Modern Muscle said they could make the any head fit any side if needed no problem, dont know if they weld up and re-drill or what. Thitek heads come dual drilled. The Eagle head would be the preferred head for sure. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: 72Swinger] #1556054 12/31/13 01:32 PM 12/31/13 01:32 PM
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WO23Coronet master Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 4,255 Canada	Eagle heads bolt up to a 5.7 block and flow right up here with 6.1 and 6.4 heads. Kind of OT but what's the issue with the GenIII rocker arms again? Pretty sure it's when lift gets in the .650 range geometry gets ugly. Also, do all the Gen III's use the same rocker arms? I thought the Eagle heads used different ones because of longer valves

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: WO23Coronet] #1556055 12/31/13 01:44 PM 12/31/13 01:44 PM
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dizuster OP master D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI	I was told the rockers are the same. Just pedestals are taller. .650" might keep it from being an ultimate race head, but they are pretty good for a factory casting. The 6.4l heads can be had for $1500 complete, flow 340cfm un ported, use stock rocker arms to 8k rpm(drag pack guys), have a factory block that can take 1000hp, and a 6.1L crank can keep up at that power level for a few hundred bucks. Pretty hard to beat for most guys. Steff's 6.1l headed motor made 780hp on pump gas with a hydraulic roller. The lift can't be holding them back too bad. I'd take a $1500 340cfm head at .650" over a $3500 330cfm indy at. 750" all day.... Lol

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: dizuster] #1556056 01/01/14 05:14 AM 01/01/14 05:14 AM
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Moparmal master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,943 Melbourne.....Oz-land	My Gen3 6.1 in an A body with Modman and Thunder carb. 67 RO23 clone with 6.1 SRT Hemi and dual quads. Soon to have Drag Pak induction and Throttle body.

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: Moparmal] #1556057 01/01/14 06:53 AM 01/01/14 06:53 AM
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charger410 member C Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 159 australia	Very nice Is it auto or manual? What induction are you using? Looks like a tight fit. I didn't realise there so wide Peter. Australian Charger, alloy block injected 410in, w9 na 9.03@148 leafs 3000lb 1967 barracuda 605 hemi Stage5 millennium 8.2@170

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: dizuster] #1556058 01/01/14 01:00 PM 01/01/14 01:00 PM
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MattW master M Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 2,776 Ontario Canada	Quote: I was told the rockers are the same. Just pedestals are taller. .650" might keep it from being an ultimate race head, but they are pretty good for a factory casting. The 6.4l heads can be had for $1500 complete, flow 340cfm un ported, use stock rocker arms to 8k rpm(drag pack guys), have a factory block that can take 1000hp, and a 6.1L crank can keep up at that power level for a few hundred bucks. Pretty hard to beat for most guys. Steff's 6.1l headed motor made 780hp on pump gas with a hydraulic roller. The lift can't be holding them back too bad. I'd take a $1500 340cfm head at .650" over a $3500 330cfm indy at. 750" all day.... Lol 330 on who's bench? Maybe with a 4.25 bore fixture.LOL Castings are much better quality too!

Re: How about some Gen 3 Hemi teaser Pics.... [Re: MattW] #1556059 01/01/14 01:45 PM 01/01/14 01:45 PM
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