aluminum block on the street?
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it is one (of many) of my dreams to run an aluminum big block on the street. is this a bad idea? any things i should watch out for? seems like it wouldn't be a big deal if set up propah (there are so many o.e. aluminum engines out there). you can be mean to me if you want, i don't care. i've been married for over 30 years.
for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
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Re: aluminum block on the street?
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I'm doing it. It should be just like anything else you run it hard cold or overheat it then you have problems. It may not be as forgiving or maybe more forgiving. I am not taking the chance. I see an issue I am cutting it off.
Leon
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Re: aluminum block on the street?
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Look at how many production engine blocks are alum that at on the road.... you wont have a problem if the cooling system is correct
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Re: aluminum block on the street?
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I did it, no problem. Just have a good cooling system.
This might be a stupid question, but why would you need a better cooling system with an aluminum block?
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Re: aluminum block on the street?
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I know plenty of people that have run them on the street without issue.
The newest GT500 is a sleeveless aluminum block, if you wanted to get really fancy with technology I'm sure somebody could apply that same spray plasma lining to an aftermarket Mopar block.
'18 Ford Raptor, random motorcycles, 1968 Plymouth Fury III - 11.37 @ 118
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Re: aluminum block on the street?
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Been running my KB block hemi on the street since 2006. No issues here...other than traction.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: aluminum block on the street?
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Do you know what the newest KB blocks are? Wet or dry? I've been trying to justify doing this myself for the weight savings. It's a pretty expensive 60 lb or so savings!
Dry sleeve.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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Re: aluminum block on the street?
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This is not at all trying to be condescending, but I'm just seriously curious about a few things. You have not had the gasket leaks, cylinder wall shift from expansion, poor ring seal and rear main seal issues at all? Are these a thing of the past? and (putting current factory OE blocks aside) why have so few builders achieved a good natured Aluminum block on the street?
When you say, street, is that saying that you drive it in traffic to and from cruises, track etc. or is it very limited to a surrounding neighborhood? Some people here think that street may mean an"every day car, drive it anywhere" type of thing and I know that even my car is not that. I drive mine to the nearest track (about 50 miles or so) and in and around the five Boroughs to the night haunts/cruises in real NYC traffic, Though traffic can be light some times at 4:am LOL.
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Re: aluminum block on the street?
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I haven't had any of the issues you've mentioned. From what I've been told, the older blocks w/ wet sleeves had all sorts of issues on the street...nothing like the new ones. It's definitely not a daily driver by any means, but I drive it 25 miles one way to work every now and then. Use it as my "run around" car on weekends when the weather's nice. Spends most of the time on the highway cruising at 65-70 mph (I live out in the country). Used to go to Myrtle Beach pretty regular during the summer. Almost an hour drive, lots of traffic and heat. I've driven it to the track a couple times (about an hour one way), but I normally trailer it. Dan at Performance Only has done a bunch of aluminum block street engines. I bought the rotating assembly for mine from him.
CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax
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