Re: Best Exhaust Pipe Diameter for Low/Mid-Range 340 Auto
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Those manifolds are a 2&1/4" outlet so yes you'd see an improvement (tho I ain't sure how much) but as you know the ex is the most restricted part of the overall air pump (the eng). Muffler selection is important & I'd suggest some free flowing (noisy) ones with some glaspacks as resonators to quiet it back to a reasonable level. I would likely go to 2&1/2 if I was going to get a new ex system.I would do extensive dist timing mods & if it is an original Carter AVS then it is extremely lean & I'd convert to Eddy 2 step primary rods/short pri jets to richen it up. EDIT missed that it was a 72 so it would not be an OE Carter AVS. I saw the "70" for the manifolds
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Re: Best Exhaust Pipe Diameter for Low/Mid-Range 340 Auto
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Actually the OE iron manifold is a very good piece. What about advancing the cam 4 deg?
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Re: Best Exhaust Pipe Diameter for Low/Mid-Range 340 Auto
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I would put the largest true dual pipes you can fit and run restrictive reverse flow mufflers. I mention "restrictive" because you need some backpressure to maintain torque. It's a similar setup that I had on my '86 Ram 4x4 318 2bbl with 3.23's and there was a noticible increase. If I remember correct it was 2 1/2" to the mufflers and 2 3/4" out the back. Smaller displacement and heavier vehicle from what you have........
Otherwise, if you are really adventurous, a better solution would be a 360. There's no substitute for cubic inches and if you use the Magnum barrel intake, it builds alot of torque in the 1500 to 1800 range. Sure, it would cost more money but I venture a guess that a 1/4" difference in pipe isn't going to make any noticible increase and could be a waste of money.
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Re: Best Exhaust Pipe Diameter for Low/Mid-Range 340 Auto
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I wouldn't want any back pressure. Open and free flowing is the key. Tune them to your rpm range by changing diameter. You want velocity in the rpm range where you want power. If you want low rpm, then a smaller diameter will do that. Downside is they don't have the capacity to flow the volume of high RPMs. This creates back pressure, but only above the RPM you are looking for. A larger diameter will handle the volume of higher RPMs, but velocity will be lower at low RPM, costing you low rpm power.
Bottom line... Back pressure is bad. Velocity is good
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Re: Best Exhaust Pipe Diameter for Low/Mid-Range 340 Auto
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The difference is you want to support volume in the pipes by using a bigger inside diameter but have a pressure wave further down the line coming from the muffler to get your torque.
With smaller pipe size you lose the volume and have the restriction too close to the combustion.
That's my understanding of it, it worked in my application, and if anyone thinks it's wrong please point it out and why.
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Re: Best Exhaust Pipe Diameter for Low/Mid-Range 340 Auto
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2.25" with a 2" crossover would be the ticket. Run some good flowing mufflers, not some unknown mufflers with unknown internal design. The 2.25" pipes will give you good flow velocity.
If you want to improve the exhaust manifolds, find some mid-90's manifolds from a 318 or a 360 - NICE design! I put these on my '73 Charger 340 Rallye - all you have to do is grind the center webbing on the manifolds so there is no obstruction coming out of the heads. I had to have a custom trans dipstick tube made for the RH side - there's a guy here locally that makes these.
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Re: Best Exhaust Pipe Diameter for Low/Mid-Range 340 Auto
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diameter/length are critical in header primary tubes for pressure wave tuning/scavenging & all that good engineering stuff but after the collector flange you want NO restriction/back pressure. With manifolds same deal you want NO backpressure. I firmly believe that people who claim to have slowed down after adding a larger ex/tail pipes/muff system also changed something else at the same time which actually is what caused the slowing down.
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Re: Best Exhaust Pipe Diameter for Low/Mid-Range 340 Auto
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..i'd re-think the cross over unless you want to reduce noise. ..they add no power,and stock 340 was 2 1/4"
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