Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/25/08 11:45 AM
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SomeCarGuy
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Since you agree that grinding up perfectly good parts makes no sense, why are you so set on sparing with people that hold that same view?
Are you referring to this statement that I made:
"You definitely should not throw away whatever inventory you have if that is what you choose to do with it. I agree 100% on that point. Just out of curiosity, what business are you involved in that has you considering throwing away the "inventory" that you mentioned?"
It is sad that I have to explain this but I was referring to you. If YOU had inventory that YOU wanted to throw away, have at it! It would be YOURS to do whatever YOU wish. It was just a bit of sarcastic dialog. Unbelievable. Enjoy the thread.
No, you took my comment that it makes no sense to throw away inventory when it could be sold and made it what YOU wanted.
I never said I was doing such. I notice when you are up against logic you can't disagree with, you spin it so you can be "right".
Sorry doesn't work here.
When a thread is opened up, comments made by the OP are going to be discussed, doesn't matter if you buddy wanted it to happen or not. That is what happens in a public forum, something that is a new concept for you.
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/25/08 12:13 PM
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I read the big post, I don't understand anything better after that.
Nothing else really to say.
Kinda wish that was the "truth"? I think your dwelling on what was/was not implied......get over it dude!
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/25/08 04:09 PM
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/25/08 06:08 PM
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SomeCarGuy
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How about we adopt a new unofficial rule on this forum. If you are going to post and offer advice (or opinions) to another individual, you have to disclose who you are and what you do. Something tells me that will eliminate about 65% of those who come here looking to argue their opinions. On the flip side I can certainly understand why some choose to remain anonymous. It must be extremely embarrassing to have the other forum members recognize those (anonymous members) who can't understand plain English or follow a simple thought process. Not to mention the ones who can't substantiate their original points or prove their ridiculous observations or continue to flip flop their positions when confronted or......
This is really a funny post, based on your past performances.
Didn't they have to change the edit feature because of you going back and changing stuff to be "right"?
I bet you wish you could now, seeing as that you have been given enough rope to hang yourself.
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/26/08 12:18 AM
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I read the big post, I don't understand anything better after that.
Nothing else really to say.
Kinda wish that was the "truth"? I think your dwelling on what was/was not implied......get over it dude!
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/26/08 12:22 AM
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Since the resin grille made be Premier Plastic is no longer available, I am wondering if the market would bare the $799 it would take to get a grey ABS plastic one like the original.
The investment is extremely high and I really don't want to be in the same situation we are currently in with the 70 Cuda grille assembly we made.
I'm not sold on the project and wanted to see if the interest is there for a correctly made piece that won't warp and melt like a resin piece.
Michael C. Ross - Owner B/E & A Restoration Parts, Inc. www.beaparts.com 330-725-3990
Hi Mike, When all the dust finally settled, what did you end up deciding on? Is the 71 a viable option? What about the shark tooth grill?
Thanks again!
DW
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/26/08 09:23 AM
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Mike,
Being a "71" man, I would LOVE to see you do a top quality 71 Cuda grille for the marketplace, and since the peripheral pieces are already available (headlamp bezels, mouldings etc.), this would be the natural progression.
We all know that there were roughly twice as many 70 cars built as 71's, with conventional wisdom saying that 70 grilles should be flying off the shelf. But there is no question that at least AT THIS TIME, the disposable income to purchase a grille for EITHER car is, and would be, a challenge for many, especially in the current economic climate. As before, the market cycle WILL improve over time. Needless to say, we would love for the crystal ball to tell us when. After the market tanked in 1990, we all said it would never come back. Well, it came back, and then went to unimaginable levels. Right now, we are taking it on the chin.
Perhaps to look at this a bit more for the long term, here are some things to consider in terms of potential sales for the 71 piece:
Grilles for original 71 cars, of course.
Grilles for clones/restomods/race cars (I could be wrong here, but there seem to many more 70 and 72-74 Cuda's being converted to 71's than vice-versa. Since fenders are available, the kicker is now the grille).
Grilles for a POTENTIALLY AVAILABLE complete body supplied by Dynacorn (Admittedly a long shot, but not out of the realm of possibility). If this were to happen, then, just like a 69 Camaro, you can build an entire car out of a catalog. No rust. Fresh parts. Paint it, bolt it together and go!
Is it then possible that the sales of 71 grilles could actually be greater than projected?
Having made the above statements, I must also play Devil's Advocate at least a bit here. Being involved in manufacturing, but certainly on a much smaller and less complex scale, I still have a full understanding of how technical issues, costs, vendor selection and other potential risks of introducing a new product can evolve differently than originally planned. Some products will be runaway winners, and others, dare I say, will be duds. Also, and so often, the market says that it wants a specific product, and then someone steps up and does it. There may be a small surge initially, and then the market says "Well, now that it is available, I will wait until next month to purchase it". Next month becomes 6 months. Then it becomes next year. Then often tomorrow NEVER comes for that purchase, as other priorities, or "life" gets in the way. A quick example: Many years ago, when Shafi Keisler was doing lenses, he sent me (via FedEx) literally the FIRST examples of his outstanding 67 GTX tail lamp lenses. I brought them to Mopars at Englishtown (when the show was still a legitimate event). I displayed them, with fair pricing, and they got rave reviews. However, the universal response was "Wow, great product, and a great price! But hey, got any bezels?" I sold NONE of the lenses over two days. Crazy.
I will also put my vote in for the Duster "Sharktooth" grille, knowing the quality of your finished products.
Thirdly, and this was referenced earlier in this thread, having CORRECT, QUALITY, E-BODY HARDTOP AND CONVERTIBLE INTERIOR PANELS would be KILLER! Having seen several examples of the currently available reproduction pieces, I am happy my barf bag was close at hand.
Bill Rolik
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/26/08 06:02 PM
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Hi Mike I would be one of the first to buy a 71 Cuda grille, promise. But, I would be the very first in line for some correct interior convertible cuda panels!!!
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/26/08 07:26 PM
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I would/will take one. Something to be said for being the only game in town, and even with the problems, they still moved those resin grilles... Seems like the grilles for all other years are easier to come by, and as much as I need a new one, I can't bring myself to pay the "investment grade" price for a grille for my driver.
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/26/08 08:40 PM
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Back to the original topic, I am interested in the repro '71 grille. I do have a '71, but lack the ability to send the discussion off topic with recommendations on how to run your business. Having a spare grill just in case is just good sense.
1969 Orig Hemi Super Bee Post 4 spd Red on Red (Sold sadly) 1970 Cuda Drag car 500" B1/BS 8.63 @ 155 mph 1970 Challenger SE 383 4 bbl A/C PB PS Leather 1971 Orig 440+6 Cuda 4 spd Shaker In-Violet
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Re: 71 Cuda grille CHECKING MARKET INTEREST
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11/27/08 11:08 AM
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SomeCarGuy
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Since the resin grille made be Premier Plastic is no longer available, I am wondering if the market would bare the $799 it would take to get a grey ABS plastic one like the original.
The investment is extremely high and I really don't want to be in the same situation we are currently in with the 70 Cuda grille assembly we made.
I'm not sold on the project and wanted to see if the interest is there for a correctly made piece that won't warp and melt like a resin piece.
Michael C. Ross - Owner B/E & A Restoration Parts, Inc. www.beaparts.com 330-725-3990
Hi Mike, When all the dust finally settled, what did you end up deciding on? Is the 71 a viable option? What about the shark tooth grill?
Thanks again!
DW
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