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Re: Street / Strip(Overdrive) automatic trans choices ..
[Re: tsanchez]
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11/22/13 11:45 AM
11/22/13 11:45 AM
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Chandler, AZ
Duner
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top fuel
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Chandler, AZ
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I distinctly remember that about "the good old days" when a long trip involved hours upon hours of droning exhaust vibrations. I took a 1,300 mile trip from Phoenix to Williston ND with 4.56 gears and no overdrive and no exhaust system other than a set of Thrush header mufflers directly on the collectors - under the front seats. By the time I returned that 1,300 miles the other direction I decided that the NEXT time I'd go ahead and get better mufflers, maybe even an exhaust system AND different gears. Overdrive transmissions, lockup converters and quiet exhaust systems are improvements I've GREATLY come to appreciate in my old age. 
Last edited by Duner; 11/22/13 11:47 AM.
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Re: Street / Strip(Overdrive) automatic trans choices ..
[Re: Dragula]
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11/22/13 08:04 PM
11/22/13 08:04 PM
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Posts: 596
Mass.
80fbody
mopar
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mopar
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Mass.
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SMR Shorty with GV unit...Best I have seen....
I'm sure you're going to be around $5K for one of their setups. But it would still be all mopar. The 200r4 would be thousands less.
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Re: Street / Strip(Overdrive) automatic trans choices ..
[Re: 80fbody]
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11/23/13 01:46 AM
11/23/13 01:46 AM
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Posts: 6,568
Downtown Roebuck Ont
Twostick
Still wishing...
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Still wishing...
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Downtown Roebuck Ont
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SMR Shorty with GV unit...Best I have seen....
I'm sure you're going to be around $5K for one of their setups. But it would still be all mopar. The 200r4 would be thousands less.
I was going to suggest this setup. I don't know if they made a short SB 727 but I have a BB one from a 4x4 with a divorced transfer. I would think you could build your own shorty GearVendors for the price of a GV kit and whatever 727 you might have in stock plus a short output shaft.
Kevin
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Re: Street / Strip(Overdrive) automatic trans choices ..
[Re: ksj]
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11/23/13 10:51 AM
11/23/13 10:51 AM
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Oakland, MI
dizuster
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master
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Oakland, MI
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What is Mr P Body using on the Rampage? 
Is got a 518 in it that I built for him. Converted to non lock up converter for better converter choice. OD just works off a switch. He just bought a trans shift kit that had a full reverse manual option. It wasn't too hard to convert the valve body over myself.
It's probably not the best option (because of weight /drag), but very cost effective compared to a GV.
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Re: Street / Strip(Overdrive) automatic trans choices ..
[Re: bigdad]
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11/23/13 06:25 PM
11/23/13 06:25 PM
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New York
polyspheric
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master
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New York
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The GV doesn't reduce RPM as much as the O/D transmissions. Remember that your driveshaft RPM does not go down, plan your angles very carefully. Here's a few choices and remarks on my site: http://victorylibrary.com/mopar/aod.htm
Boffin Emeritus
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Re: Street / Strip(Overdrive) automatic trans choices ..
[Re: bigdad]
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11/24/13 01:05 AM
11/24/13 01:05 AM
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Posts: 12,410
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula
I Live Here
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I Live Here
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 12,410
Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
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Too many choices but, not many agree on what to use 
If your going to beat the tar out of it, I would do the shorty 727 with GV OD from SMR....The Mopar OD transmissions will work, but are no where near what a built 727 with a GV will....I shift my A500 into OD at full throttle, and with all the upgrades, it has held up very well...The draw back is the convertor choices when you spinning the OD even when disengaged...It will put extra heat in the trans. I run a lockup style, even less choices, but less heat.
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Re: Street / Strip(Overdrive) automatic trans choices ..
[Re: turbobitt]
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11/25/13 01:01 AM
11/25/13 01:01 AM
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Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
Dragula
I Live Here
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I Live Here
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Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY
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If your going to beat the tar out of it, I would do the shorty 727 with GV OD from SMR
I tried using a shorty GV setup in my Hemi Challenger and it hit worse than the standard length unit. The studs and back side of the OD hit the factory torsion bar X-member and made it impossible to install without serious modifications. I ended up switching over to the standard length kit and bashing the floor were needed.
If I was to do it over I would seriously look into the 200R4. I know there is a bellhousing option available to make it work. Some details in the link below.
http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/threads/the-very-first-bolt-on-bell-2004r.402724/
Allan G.
Interesting....
SMR says its a bolt in deal:
ONLY 7 1/4" LONGER THAN A STANDARD 727, an SMR "Shortie" overdrive transmission is a DIRECT BOLT-ON for all Slant 6, V6, A, B, RB, and 426 and GEN III HEMI engines in rear wheel drive 1962 to 1970 "B" Body Chrysler vehicles . No floorpan or critical crossmember modifications are required.* (No special fabrication or welding skills required)
* In some installations a small dent may be required to clear the speedometer adapter at the overdrive housing.
Installation is a true bolt-in, requiring only the shortening of the driveshaft, in any '62-'70 "B' Body or 2 wd truck originally equipped with a 727, 904 or 3 or 4 speed standard transmission. Installation is also simple in '67 to '76 "A" Body cars with only minor modification of the lower transmission mount
This transmission retains:
-stock crossmember;
-transmission mount;
-stock cooler lines;
-stock shifter (except '62-65) and kickdown linkage;
-stock or heavy duty Chrysler flexplate;
-standard design Chrysler torque converter;
-stock starter and location; and
-The full strength and integrity of the overall transmission is not compromised by removal of the original cast bellhousing to utilize an adapter that is welded on or bolted to the pump. (Such a bolt on bellhousing places the full torque load onto the pump bolts which were designed strictly for the purpose of holding the pump in place).
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