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Re: Orange box or Pertronix on '69 440?
[Re: BDW]
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11/19/13 03:30 PM
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I went down to my local auto parts store and purchased a remanufactured single points distributor ( new bushings, etc ) and installed the Pertronix Ignitor II..... Working great...........
TroyHouston Mopar Connection Club'69 Charger Daytona 440 - auto - 4.10 Dana (now with 426 hemi) '69 Charger 500 440 - 4speed - 3.54 Dana '70 Road Runner 383 - 4speed - a/c (now with 440)
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Re: Orange box or Pertronix on '69 440?
[Re: BDW]
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11/19/13 03:55 PM
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Do the boxes, orange or otherwise really fail that often? To read these comments you'd think no car has lasted on the road for any length of time. Granted I only have a small circle of Mopar friends, but I have never ever heard of anyone having an ignition box fail.
Aside from them failing personal experience , orange box from my 2005 crate Hemi pulled timing out above 4000 rpm , this is why they sux ... unless you have a distributor with 30 degrees of mechanical advance , then the timing being pulled out is probably a good thing ...
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Re: Orange box or Pertronix on '69 440?
[Re: 383man]
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11/19/13 03:58 PM
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Well I bought my orange box in 1999 and it has and still is flawless and never misses a beat. It seems the newer ones must have problems as mine has worked great and never failed and does not pull any timing out at higher rpm's. In fact when my son used it on his 400 he shifted at 6500 and it worked great. When he put MSD on the car it ran the same and did not go any faster. Right now I have it on my 63 Sport Fury and its running 10.70's and never misses a beat. If you have an older orange box it might work fine but it seems most that have trouble have bought their orange box in the last 5 or so years. You can see my orange box on the firewall just behind the carb next to the voltage reg. Ron
Ron have you had it on a something , like a chassis dyno, showing it doesn't pull timing out or are you just ASSuMEing it doesn't because you are happy with the performance , or lack of performance ??? 
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Re: Orange box or Pertronix on '69 440?
[Re: cjbill]
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11/19/13 04:23 PM
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I think, since I have it already, I'm going to go with the Mopar orange-box kit that I have, with new Mopar wires, NGK plugs, and a Blaster 2 coil. After all, I have the Streetmaster 440 intake, which is worthless above 4500, according to everyone,  so I really don't care about how much timing it pulls out above 4000. If the orange box goes TU, I've got a Crane Hi-6 laying around somewhere for continued fun. Thanks for the responses and the advice, everyone!!! 
ex-Ford guy, but Mopars nowadays
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Re: Orange box or Pertronix on '69 440?
[Re: JohnRR]
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11/19/13 06:03 PM
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Well I bought my orange box in 1999 and it has and still is flawless and never misses a beat. It seems the newer ones must have problems as mine has worked great and never failed and does not pull any timing out at higher rpm's. In fact when my son used it on his 400 he shifted at 6500 and it worked great. When he put MSD on the car it ran the same and did not go any faster. Right now I have it on my 63 Sport Fury and its running 10.70's and never misses a beat. If you have an older orange box it might work fine but it seems most that have trouble have bought their orange box in the last 5 or so years. You can see my orange box on the firewall just behind the carb next to the voltage reg. Ron
Ron have you had it on a something , like a chassis dyno, showing it doesn't pull timing out or are you just ASSuMEing it doesn't because you are happy with the performance , or lack of performance ???
No its never been on a chassis dyno. I use my advance meter timing light and watch the timing when I have some rev it up over 5K. I see no timing pulled like that and yes I am happy with its performance. And the fact when we took it off my sons Dart and put MSD on his car and it ran no faster at all. Ron
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Re: Orange box or Pertronix on '69 440?
[Re: BDW]
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11/19/13 06:08 PM
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Do the boxes, orange or otherwise really fail that often? To read these comments you'd think no car has lasted on the road for any length of time. Granted I only have a small circle of Mopar friends, but I have never ever heard of anyone having an ignition box fail.
Many do say they have had the EXU box fail and many say the orange box pulls timing at higher RPM which I have no reason to not believe them. But all I can tell you is I bought my orange box in 1999 and its still going strong as it has never failed and I also have never had the ballast resister fail on me. But many do fail as I do carry a spare orange box and a spare resister in my glovebox but have never had to use them yet. As I was saying it seems the orange boxes bought in the last maybe 5 to 10 years seem to be giving some trouble. Ron
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Re: Orange box or Pertronix on '69 440?
[Re: 3BIRDS1X]
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11/20/13 04:30 PM
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Has anybody ever put a pertronix in an electronic distrubtor? I have a low mile orange box distributor conversion set and would like to use the distrubutor in my next project but with a pertronix in it, mainly for cosmetic reasons.
A good solution is to hide the Mopar box..
Like under the battery holder.
That way you keep the Mopar electronic system together.
But as posted previously, dump that Orange box and step to a Chrome box..
Just my $0.05... 
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Re: Orange box or Pertronix on '69 440?
[Re: Sinitro]
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11/21/13 09:43 PM
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A good solution is to hide the Mopar box..
Like under the battery holder.
That way you keep the Mopar electronic system together.
But as posted previously, dump that Orange box and step to a Chrome box..
Just my $0.05...
Great Idea about hiding the Mopar box.
Wile E. Coyote
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68 Road Runner (440 4-spd), 71 Superbee (383 slap), 71 Charger 500 (383 4-spd wA/C 1of 182), 72 Imperial, 74 Charger SE (440 sunroof), 84 D350 Crew-cab Dually (440), 75 D300 Dually Tandem (318 4-speed)
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