Re: School me on Gen II Dakotas
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10/30/13 09:29 PM
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Prefer a V8, but wouldn't rule out a V6.
Best engine? Any to stay away from? What else should I look out for on these trucks?
A v6 in a quad cab will be a little on the underpowered side. The Gen II Dakota's are not light trucks and the extra doors add more weight.
What to watch out for? Rust. Above the rear wheels on the box, rockers, around the wheels on the front fenders, both outer corners of the front bumper, the center of the rear bumper, and the frame around the transmission crossmember. Abuse. If its been beat pretty hard, lots of stuff will need to be replaced, these are not the tough old beasts from the 70s & 80s. Gene
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Re: School me on Gen II Dakotas
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10/31/13 10:54 AM
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Gen 2 or gen 3? there's no quad cab Gen 2s, but gen 3 (97-04 Dakota) does have quads available starting in 2000 I believe? maybe '01 was the first year.
They are HEAVY trucks. my 98 is a striped out regular cab. left the factory with no AC, cruise control, manual windows, locks, seats, transmission, and is 2wd. only option really was the 5.2L v8. it weighs 3900 lbs.
my 04 quad cab, 2wd V8 auto with power windows, locks, mirrors, cruise, AC, etc. weighs 4500 empty
Ball joints in the 4wd models had issues, but should be fixed under the recall. Check the ball joints, if they are riveted to the control arm, they are original. If they are held in with nuts/bolts, they are replacements. They suck down the gas. my 2wd 5.2 truck would do 17 MPG, but that was with a manual trans. my 04 quad cab 4.7L truck gets about 16 on the highway, and 15 overall.
lots of aftermarket support though. cosmetic mods, performance mods, etc.
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Re: School me on Gen II Dakotas
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10/31/13 10:58 AM
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but gen 3 (97-04 Dakota) Tom, I thought the 97-04 were the Gen 2?
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Re: School me on Gen II Dakotas
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10/31/13 11:21 AM
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but gen 3 (97-04 Dakota) Tom, I thought the 97-04 were the Gen 2?
The "dakota hobbyists" consider Gen 1 to be 86-90, Gen 2 running from 91-96, then Gen 3 from 97-04 Gen 4 running from 05-07 and Gen 5 being the last few years.
Not sure what the breakdown is between the gens, the 1 and 2 are very similar, maybe Gen 2 is when the trucks started being offered with V8/Magnums, plus a few other small frame/cosmetic changes.
Gen 3 is distinctly unique, although even with Gen 3 there are subtle changes, the 5.2 going away and being replaced by the 4.7, Interior re-designs half way through, brake upgrades each year, etc.
And the gen 4/5 trucks are all very similar as well.
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Re: School me on Gen II Dakotas
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10/31/13 11:27 AM
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Well color me silly, for the last 10 years I've thought of my 97 as the 1st year of the gen 2.
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Re: School me on Gen II Dakotas
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10/31/13 01:40 PM
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Yea, the line between Gen 1 and 2 is kind of blurry since the body style didn't change much if at all, likewise on the line between gen 4/5. but there is clearly a change between 96-97 and 04-05.
In the Dakota RT Club (www.drtc.com) we all refer to the 97-04 trucks as "Gen 3"
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Re: School me on Gen II Dakotas
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gen 1 and 2 are different. The grills and head lamp surrounds are different. No V8 in Gen 1,iirc. Just the 4 and V6.. Body lines are different so sheet metal doesn't interchange, etc..Gen 2's had 4cyl,V6's and V8's. I had a '94 extra cab {not quad} 4x4 auto shortbed, I had the "BlakDak" '94 regular cab,shortbed Sport with the 440 and I've had a 93 and 95 "parts" trucks.. I like the Gen 2's better..
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Re: School me on Gen II Dakotas
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10/31/13 10:36 PM
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Gen 2s are lighter. but I like sexy and curves. I like the Gen 3 Dakota's the best. Same with the Vipers. I like the Gen 2's with the GTS...sexy, curvy.
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Re: School me on Gen II Dakotas
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11/01/13 12:20 PM
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Well, not sure what Gen to call it, but what I want is a 97-04. I'm going to look at one this weekend with the 4.7 V8. Is that generally a good motor?Thanks for all the input guys.
Last edited by 318 Stroker; 11/01/13 12:23 PM.
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Re: School me on Gen II Dakotas
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11/05/13 12:38 PM
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I had a 2000 Dakota, 4WD, 4.7L, 5-speed manual extended cab. Bought it with 125k on the clock. Put a new exhaust on it immediately with 4 new O2 sensors. I beat that truck mercilessly. Offroaded quite a bit in it. Had the rearend rebuilt once. Power locks died but windows still worked. Stock speakers all blew out of it. Replaced the front wheel bearings multiple times (definitely didn't torque them right once or twice - my fault). The cam position sensor died, left me stranded, cheap easy fix. I retired it to my uncle's farm, not sure of the mileage. Both front fenders and the hood started rotting. Lower doors are gone. Bed, rear bumper rotting pretty bad. The rear spring shackle broke, sent the spring into the bed. They threw new tires on it, couple new parts at it and it's still going strong I'll see if I can dig up a picture
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Re: School me on Gen II Dakotas
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11/06/13 05:17 PM
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I'd take a 5.2 over a 4.7 engine. Some folks have good luck with the 4.7's, some of people have trouble with them.
I'm still shopping for one. What was the last year for the 5.2 in a Dakota?
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