Re: Thinking of the darkside....
[Re: Wv68charger]
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10/23/13 11:05 PM
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My thoughts...... Race what you enjoy racing the most. At the end of the day you are still gonna have to go to your day job to pay the bills In other words, keep the door car, it has tons more character
69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8
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Re: Thinking of the darkside....
[Re: RodStRace]
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10/24/13 05:02 AM
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afxcoronet
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After 18yrs of waiting for the right time, I finally got me a dragster. Hope to make my first pass in it next week.
Good Luck
Taking over the World one win light at a time.
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Re: Thinking of the darkside....
[Re: Eric]
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10/24/13 06:51 AM
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Dragula
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Eric,
I have yet to drive one, but I have been interested in the Alterds more than the other pipe racks.
Couple things to consider, even outside of will the cage fit me, etc...Re-sale value, suspended vs. rigid, overall length, Front brakes, etc....I have been wanting to try an Altered, but after watching some of those, they can be more than a handful. Obviously, a rail will be much more stable. I agree with the rest, try one, then decide.
For me to consider one, it would have to be suspended, have front brakes and a regular wheel. Its a tall order, hence I stay with a door car. Heck most people don't take a second look at the a the dragsters or Altereds, so I guess its all in the eye's of the beholder and what your goals are.
Last edited by Dragula; 10/24/13 06:56 AM.
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Re: Thinking of the darkside....
[Re: wafflebatter]
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10/24/13 11:33 AM
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Guitar Jones
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I drove an altered for a local guy for 2 years while I was building my car. What I liked about it was the visibility. You can see the front wheels. What I didn't like was getting a face shield covered with coolant, gasoline or oil. You are out in the weather, when it's cold outside it's a lot colder at 140 mph. Also when it's hot and sunny outside it's a lot hotter sitting in the lanes. I also didn't really care for the wind buffeting my helmet at speed.
I'll stick with my door car.
"Follow me the wise man said, but he walked behind"
'92 D250 Club Cab CTD, 47RH conversion, pump tweaks, injectors, rear disc and hydroboost conversion. '74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion. 2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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Re: Thinking of the darkside....
[Re: Eric]
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10/24/13 11:51 AM
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Eric, As you know I switched.
Dragsters have no “personality”. My 66 Charger did. No one will come up to you and say how much they love your dragster or how they had one of those when they were young. I enjoyed that side of racing the charger. With that being said, I really do like racing a dragster. Maintenance on the dragster is a lot easier and one of the reasons I switched. As I got older crawling around the car got increasingly more difficult. With the dragster, everything is out in the open and easy to access. For me, the reduction in weight was almost 1700 (3650 to 1950) pounds so the wear and tear on the parts was considerably less. I race alone, so I do find that loading and unloading the dragster is a little more work than the car. I honestly don’t know why that is, but it does take me longer!
I had major issues with engines and transmissions this year, but I did buy a “new” 2004 dragster. Here are a few things that I think are important to racing a dragster with a mopar engine. Of course buying a dragster already fitted up with a mopar engine and glide, eliminates some of the items you will have to deal with!
1. Frame rails have got to be at least 20 inches between the inside edges of the pipe where the motor sits to easily clear the oil pump and starter. Tighter can be made to work, but 20 inches would be my recommendation. 2. An oil accumulator is a good thing to have because with a dragster pan and even with good trap doors, at 170 MPH stops at PRP, the oil does uncover the pickup at times 3. Stopping at PRP with a hardtail with no front suspension at 170 is going to be difficult. It is too easy to get the chassis into a bounce and they are hard to recover from. I have been there. You travel and race at many tracks, I would think you would want some suspension. People say good things about adding a front suspension to a hardtail. Cost is under $2000. 4. I prefer to run no alternator and a 16 volt system. While not a big deal, if you are used to running an alternator, you may find it challenging to have to charge all the time between rounds, or find it difficult to fit in the alternator between the frame rails. 5. Plumbing in the radiator becomes somewhat expensive because most of the dragster radiators have AN fittings, and only the more expensive water pump housings are AN capable. The old reliable 1 ¼ hose clamp setups and radiators can be made to work, but they require a lot of fitting up. 6. You’ll need a shorty gear set for the glide and a shorty cover. 7. Avoid the “lay down” dragster seating. You race 8.90 stuff and seeing the finish line is a must. The lay down visibility is not great for seeing the stripe and the opponent.
Bob
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Re: Thinking of the darkside....
[Re: Eric]
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10/24/13 11:52 AM
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Eric,
I have driven door cars, 23 left hand roadsters and this. I love them all.
Back in the swing of things at Painless again! Great to be back!
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Re: Thinking of the darkside....
[Re: Eric]
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10/24/13 12:12 PM
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Quicktree
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Quote:
Ok....I'll start by saying I LOVE MY ARROW...it's a blast to drive and I have won my fair share of rounds with it. That being said...who here has made the step from a door car to a rail?...and what were the results?....Rest easy it would still be Mopar powered.
if you ever get in a dragster you will never want to go back.
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Re: Thinking of the darkside....
[Re: Quicktree]
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10/24/13 12:26 PM
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I think the bracket racer in you will love the visibility, ease of maintenence and how cheap it is to go fast.
-Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA
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Re: Thinking of the darkside....
[Re: Triple Threat]
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10/24/13 01:15 PM
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max_maniac
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I think the bracket racer in you will love the visibility, ease of maintenence and how cheap it is to go fast.
how cheap it is
Thats it ----- now we know he's gonna get a stick
Russ
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