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Sportsman Series Jesel Rocker System Or T&D For w2's #1517072
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Anyone have any pics or prices of the paired shaft system from jesel or T&D? Part # KSS-346050, KSS-
346060, KSS-346560, KSS-347070

Re: Sportsman Series Jesel Rocker System For W2's [Re: Sb Valiant] #1517073
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Does T&D offer a similar setup with the paired shaft? Possibly cheaper then jesel? http://www.jesel.com/valvetrain/index.php/rockers/sportsman-series

Re: Sportsman Series Jesel Rocker System For W2's [Re: Sb Valiant] #1517074
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They will be around the same price or possibly more expensive from T&D. The Sportsman rockers were hard to beat for the $$$ for a higher end rocker system.


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Jesel--call them get rockers
T&D call them get delivery date WAY off in the future --never get rockers
Same on replacement parts stay away from T&D Jesel is the best game in town.
Better yet, there is always a set of new W2 rockers , headers etc for sale somewhere. Folks buy heads cheap then come to understand that that was easy part, that all the other items cost $$$$$ so most W2 stuff is new and old. Get W2's on an engine and find out you have to turn it out of the frame to get them to work and then..you guessed it--more slightly used W2 stuff on the market. Get some Indybrocks and be happy using std big block rockers and run great!

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Get T&D much better oiling. Took two weeks for them to make my Indy 360-1 rockers and three weeks to make my w9 rockers. I even have a spring oiler on my new ones for the w9s.


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Re: Sportsman Series Jesel Rocker System For W2's [Re: 1967dartgt] #1517077
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Put the Jesel sportsman setup( pushrods oil) on my old W5 roller motor back in 2003/2004, forget exactly when.
They are still on it today with new owner and remain flawless.
Chuck at Best Machine remarked how excellent the sweep was with them.
I honestly don't know how any setup could work as well as these did and still do. Excellent rocker setup


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I had Jesels on my vintage W2's and they were awesome. On my heads the rocker stands needed to be cut down to accomodate them and none of our local shops felt comfortable doing it. I contacted Jesel and they told me to send the heads to them and they'd do it for FREE.
TOP NOTCH SERVICE IN MY BOOK!

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I had Jesels on my vintage W2's and they were awesome. On my heads the rocker stands needed to be cut down to accomodate them and none of our local shops felt comfortable doing it. I contacted Jesel and they told me to send the heads to them and they'd do it for FREE.
TOP NOTCH SERVICE IN MY BOOK!




Yep, on mine they needed milled 250 thousands or so. Mr P had a junk W5 head that helped.


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Best so far, low 10.30’s 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.56 at 104.17



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Yea with the T&D you don't have to machine the heads fit right out of the box like there supposed to. Oil through push rod, pressure oil the roller bearings and can get valve spring oilers for a 100.


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Yea with the T&D you don't have to machine the heads fit right out of the box like there supposed to. Oil through push rod, pressure oil the roller bearings and can get valve spring oilers for a 100.




Once you mill the heads to accept the Jesel deal the geometry is awesome.
10 years on them and nary an issue of any kind. I would back them off in winter, set them back up in spring and never needed re lash.
Don't know about the TD, but the Jesel's are bulletproof.


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418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, low 10.30’s 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.56 at 104.17



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Same reliability as jesel just don't have to machine heads, I had jesels on my w9s and just switched to T&D and the swept improved .20. Me personally think if you are spending $1000+ on a rocker system they should work out of box. My indy motor was together went I got rockers for it, I didn't want to have to pull heads off and get them machined to make a rocker system work. Top nascar and pro stock teams use both so you see they are of the same quality, just T&D have it designed better to work with your factory stands on the mopar motors.

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The 59° geometry still is what it is. How does the push rod geometry become exactly? :

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When I was shopping for rockers the T&D's were almost $1600 Canadian and the Jesels were basically $1000. I didn't think the T&D's were $600 better...

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The 59° geometry still is what it is. How does the push rod geometry become exactly? :




The same with both rockers unless you go to 48* w2s.


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When I was shopping for rockers the T&D's were almost $1600 Canadian and the Jesels were basically $1000. I didn't think the T&D's were $600 better...




Never paid more then 1250 for a set of T&D rockers. Including the set I bought this year. Canada sucks.lol

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When I was shopping for rockers the T&D's were almost $1600 Canadian and the Jesels were basically $1000. I didn't think the T&D's were $600 better...




Never paid more then 1250 for a set of T&D rockers. Including the set I bought this year. Canada sucks.lol




Paid even less than that though a canadian speed shop. Mind you I still had to pay our 13% sales tax

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Can anyone post up a pic of there paired jesels or T&D setups please.

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Can anyone post up a pic of there paired jesels or T&D setups please.


this pic is just after they arrived at the house, have since run them 2 seasons and love them.


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not a very good pic so here's another.


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