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518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) #1515548 10/11/13 05:56 PM 10/11/13 05:56 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 109 OHIO B BUBBAZ572 OP MR. CAPS LOCK
BUBBAZ572 OP MR. CAPS LOCK B Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 109 OHIO	91 DODGE DIESEL 518 OD TRANS REBUILT MY TRANS AND NOW IT WILL NOT MOVE INSTALLED SUNCOAST BILLIT CONVERTER AND A&A VALVE BODY WITH A HD CLUTCH KIT. I HAVE REBUILT OVER 100 OF THESE TRANSMISSIONS AND NEVER HAD THIS PROMLEM. THERE IS PRESSURE TO THE FRONT AND REAR SERVOS PROBLEM SOLVED WRONG PUMP,PUMP HAD 3 CHECK BALLS. NEED PUMP WITH 2 CHECK BALLS Last edited by BUBBAZ572; 10/17/13 01:58 PM.

Re: TRANS WILL NOT WORK [Re: BUBBAZ572] #1515549 10/11/13 08:34 PM 10/11/13 08:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,996 s. e. pa. C calrobb2000 top fuel
calrobb2000 top fuel C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,996 s. e. pa.	check to see if manuel valve is hooked to shift liver arm ? pump ear sheared ?

Re: TRANS WILL NOT WORK [Re: calrobb2000] #1515550 10/12/13 10:24 AM 10/12/13 10:24 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 109 OHIO B BUBBAZ572 OP MR. CAPS LOCK
BUBBAZ572 OP MR. CAPS LOCK B Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 109 OHIO	YEA ITS ON

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: BUBBAZ572] #1515551 10/12/13 10:26 AM 10/12/13 10:26 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 109 OHIO B BUBBAZ572 OP MR. CAPS LOCK
BUBBAZ572 OP MR. CAPS LOCK B Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 109 OHIO	PUT A STOCK VALVE BODY IN LAST NIGHT, STILL WILL NOT MOVE!

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: BUBBAZ572] #1515552 10/12/13 11:33 AM 10/12/13 11:33 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	What about doing all of the air pressure checks with the rubber tipped air nozzle. From what I gathered you did do that for the servos & are there any other air checks that can be done? Otherwise it looks like it has to come back out live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: BUBBAZ572] #1515553 10/12/13 12:18 PM 10/12/13 12:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,089 st.cloud fl D d-150 Smarter than a 5th grader?
d-150 Smarter than a 5th grader? D Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,089 st.cloud fl	4x4?

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: d-150] #1515554 10/12/13 01:57 PM 10/12/13 01:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,816 Alton, IL D Dakota_Don master
Dakota_Don master D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,816 Alton, IL	ya. do the air checks as Robert mentioned.. possibly torn seal... you can do the air checks with the VB removed

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: BUBBAZ572] #1515555 10/12/13 02:34 PM 10/12/13 02:34 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 109 OHIO B BUBBAZ572 OP MR. CAPS LOCK
BUBBAZ572 OP MR. CAPS LOCK B Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 109 OHIO	I DID ALL OF THE AIR CHECKS.CLUTCH PACKS ARE GOOD.

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: BUBBAZ572] #1515556 10/12/13 05:44 PM 10/12/13 05:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,791 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel Too Many Posts
John_Kunkel Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,791 Rio Linda, CA	There is pressure at the front and rear servos but how much pressure? Even with broken drive tangs a pump can put out some pressure but not much. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: John_Kunkel] #1515557 10/14/13 12:06 AM 10/14/13 12:06 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	I agree you need to know how much the fluid pressure is. What about manual low ? Will it move at all in manual low ? Ron

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: 383man] #1515558 10/14/13 02:13 PM 10/14/13 02:13 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 109 OHIO B BUBBAZ572 OP MR. CAPS LOCK
BUBBAZ572 OP MR. CAPS LOCK B Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 109 OHIO	135 PSI FRONT SERVO 165 PSI REAR SERVO WILL NOT MOVE IN ANY GEAR

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: BUBBAZ572] #1515559 10/14/13 03:02 PM 10/14/13 03:02 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,089 st.cloud fl D d-150 Smarter than a 5th grader?
d-150 Smarter than a 5th grader? D Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,089 st.cloud fl	2 wheel drive tyranny

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: BUBBAZ572] #1515560 10/14/13 03:18 PM 10/14/13 03:18 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 916 MB,CAN PC-CHARGER super stock
PC-CHARGER super stock Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 916 MB,CAN	If you are sure there are no issues in the overdrive section (e.g. problem with the direct clutch) then it's likely at the input end. Possibly a problem with the input spline on the new converter or an issue with the input shaft itself.

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: PC-CHARGER] #1515561 10/14/13 04:13 PM 10/14/13 04:13 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 318 Beans Cove Pa Bumbalawski enthusiast
Bumbalawski enthusiast Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 318 Beans Cove Pa	Torque convertor? Just because it is new, does not mean it was built correctly. That is basically all that is left.

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: Bumbalawski] #1515562 10/14/13 04:53 PM 10/14/13 04:53 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 109 OHIO B BUBBAZ572 OP MR. CAPS LOCK
BUBBAZ572 OP MR. CAPS LOCK B Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 109 OHIO	4X4 TRANS I WAS THINKING CONVERTER ALSO TOOK THE OD ASSEMBLY OFF TO DOUBLE CHECK IT.EVERYTHING IS OK WHEN I REMOVED THE VALVE BODY I ONLY GOT A PINT OF FLUID DRAINING FROM TRANS. I DONT BELIEVE THE CONVERTER IS FILLING UP ON FLUID.IPUT 13 QUARTS IN AND SHOW FULL.

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: PC-CHARGER] #1515563 10/14/13 05:26 PM 10/14/13 05:26 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,537 PORT ALBERNI , BC., CANADA superwrench master
superwrench master Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 2,537 PORT ALBERNI , BC., CANADA	Quote: If you are sure there are no issues in the overdrive section (e.g. problem with the direct clutch) then it's likely at the input end. Possibly a problem with the input spline on the new converter or an issue with the input shaft itself. I'm thinking exactly as you on the direct clutch in the OD unit possibility. No direct clutch means no go....If he's got servo pressure then the pump must be doing something.

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: superwrench] #1515564 10/14/13 06:07 PM 10/14/13 06:07 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 318 Beans Cove Pa Bumbalawski enthusiast
Bumbalawski enthusiast Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 318 Beans Cove Pa	I know this is not your problem, but I remember of a fellow changed who the tranny in his 4X4 some years ago. It was in the garage sitting on level ground and would not move. He about went crazy. He called and told me what was going on with it. When he said it "raked gears" going into park, I knew what it was. Simple fix. He had his transfer case in neutral.

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: Bumbalawski] #1515565 10/14/13 08:04 PM 10/14/13 08:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,089 st.cloud fl D d-150 Smarter than a 5th grader?
d-150 Smarter than a 5th grader? D Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,089 st.cloud fl	that was what i was getting at did same thing.you have to put transfer case in neutral to get shift lever off

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: BUBBAZ572] #1515566 10/14/13 08:49 PM 10/14/13 08:49 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX feets Senior Management
feets Senior Management Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 28,067 Irving, TX	Did you disassemble the VB? If so, did you get the selector lever back on the valve? OOPS!! I guess you did. If not, you wouldn't have pressure at the servos. Perhaps a sprag failure allowing the guts to spin? Maybe dropped the link on the bands? We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon

Re: 518 TRANS WILL NOT WORK (HELP) [Re: superwrench] #1515567 10/15/13 05:57 PM 10/15/13 05:57 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: Quote: If you are sure there are no issues in the overdrive section (e.g. problem with the direct clutch) then it's likely at the input end. Possibly a problem with the input spline on the new converter or an issue with the input shaft itself. I'm thinking exactly as you on the direct clutch in the OD unit possibility. No direct clutch means no go....If he's got servo pressure then the pump must be doing something. I thought about the direct clutch but I dont believe it will cause his problem because there is an overrunning clutch in the overdrive unit that holds if the direct clutch slips. It is there so you dont get and rpm flare on the 3rd to overdrive shift when the direct clutch lets go and overdrive clutch comes in. I had a problem once where the 518 trans would slip in reverse but not drive and it had just been rebuilt by one of our techs. I found out he left a disc out of the direct clutch but it did not slip in drive just reverse because the overrunning clutch held in drive and in reverse it does not hold of course as the power goes thru just the direct clutch. It so happened this trans had updated parts and called for one more clutch disc but the tech did not count how many disc he took out and put back what the manual said as the update was a TSB. Ron

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