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Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: HEMIFRED] #1512009
10/06/13 03:39 AM
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Just think of how cheap it would be if the entire car was GM parts!




like a top fuel motor not a single GM part in my transmission. Being the MOPAR purist that you are which Mopar transmission that is capable of handling close to 3,000 HP would you recommend? 727 or 904





I went down this same road of questioning for my Twin Turbo small block (still in the works) and when ever Major MOPAR Trans builder in the country tells you, that you would be better off and save money by using a Glide over a 727. I think it's good advise to use what they recommend. Especially when they are willing to loose business over a recommendation.

The 1 builder that I could actually get numbers out of Said about $4000-6000 and they could probably get a 727 to hold together to 1200-1400 hp. But for about 1/2 that $$$$ you can get a Powerglide that would run all season behind 1500hp.

Just passing on what I was told and why I went with a PG for my build.

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: HEMIFRED] #1512010
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Just think of how cheap it would be if the entire car was GM parts!




like a top fuel motor not a single GM part in my transmission. Being the MOPAR purist that you are which Mopar transmission that is capable of handling close to 3,000 HP would you recommend? 727 or 904


I would go with a liberty if it was me. Which is neither GM nor Mopar. But that's just me.

With your duster a 18 spline 833 would be obvious. Your producing the same hp but with 500 less pounds than it had in the 70's. Of course you would need to be able to drive it.

But again, that's just me!


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Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: bwdst6] #1512011
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Just think of how cheap it would be if the entire car was GM parts!




like a top fuel motor not a single GM part in my transmission. Being the MOPAR purist that you are which Mopar transmission that is capable of handling close to 3,000 HP would you recommend? 727 or 904


I would go with a liberty if it was me. Which is neither GM nor Mopar. But that's just me.

With your duster a 18 spline 833 would be obvious. Your producing the same hp but with 500 less pounds than it had in the 70's. Of course you would need to be able to drive it.

But again, that's just me!




post was 727 vs glide but you tossed in the 833.

I am producing the same horsepower as what? the early prostockers ? no not same hp those cars ran only 9.30's Max for an 833 maybe 650.you say I need to be able to drive it ? that I ignored

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With your duster a 18 spline 833 would be obvious.


if it were viable it would have been done. Not obvious to Passion and Brewer
who recommend using something else at my power


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Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: HEMIFRED] #1512012
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Just think of how cheap it would be if the entire car was GM parts!




like a top fuel motor not a single GM part in my transmission. Being the MOPAR purist that you are which Mopar transmission that is capable of handling close to 3,000 HP would you recommend? 727 or 904


I would go with a liberty if it was me. Which is neither GM nor Mopar. But that's just me.

With your duster a 18 spline 833 would be obvious. Your producing the same hp but with 500 less pounds than it had in the 70's. Of course you would need to be able to drive it.

But again, that's just me!




post was 727 vs glide but you tossed in the 833.

I am producing the same horsepower as what? the early prostockers ? no not same hp those cars ran only 9.30's Max for an 833 maybe 650.you say I need to be able to drive it ? that I ignored

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With your duster a 18 spline 833 would be obvious.


if it were viable it would have been done. Not obvious to Passion and Brewer
who recommend using something else at my power


That’s not what you were saying here!

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=6795979

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from the "BACK IN THE DAY" file : let's see if I can get this right .

I believe it was mid 1972 when the change over to Lenco's started.At the time 833 was being used by all the GM cars and breakage was not the primary
reason most teams changed. It was the reducton in ET for the average driver. Most gained well over a tenth. Most except Ronnie Sox who actually ran slower with one.
The Pro Stock cars were in the 9.0 Et range and at 3000lbs .That converts to about 77HP.
9,000 RPM launches were common.
In today's world with slipper type clutches I think they could handle more than that




In any event, with your 8.58 ET and 2500 lb weight that converts to about 782 hp. If you want to stick with a 727 you can pick one up at a bone yard. Put a manual valve body in it and a 5.0 shift arm and that’ll handle your power until Rapture!!! If your worried about losing too much ET then get a 727 filled with 904 roller-ized, billet internals. Probably won’t lose much at all. But it’ll cost you!


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Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: bwdst6] #1512013
10/07/13 12:33 AM
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Just think of how cheap it would be if the entire car was GM parts!




like a top fuel motor not a single GM part in my transmission. Being the MOPAR purist that you are which Mopar transmission that is capable of handling close to 3,000 HP would you recommend? 727 or 904


I would go with a liberty if it was me. Which is neither GM nor Mopar. But that's just me.

With your duster a 18 spline 833 would be obvious. Your producing the same hp but with 500 less pounds than it had in the 70's. Of course you would need to be able to drive it.

But again, that's just me!




post was 727 vs glide but you tossed in the 833.

I am producing the same horsepower as what? the early prostockers ? no not same hp those cars ran only 9.30's Max for an 833 maybe 650.you say I need to be able to drive it ? that I ignored

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With your duster a 18 spline 833 would be obvious.


if it were viable it would have been done. Not obvious to Passion and Brewer
who recommend using something else at my power


That’s not what you were saying here!

https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Number=6795979

Quote:

from the "BACK IN THE DAY" file : let's see if I can get this right .

I believe it was mid 1972 when the change over to Lenco's started.At the time 833 was being used by all the GM cars and breakage was not the primary
reason most teams changed. It was the reducton in ET for the average driver. Most gained well over a tenth. Most except Ronnie Sox who actually ran slower with one.
The Pro Stock cars were in the 9.0 Et range and at 3000lbs .That converts to about 77HP.
9,000 RPM launches were common.
In today's world with slipper type clutches I think they could handle more than that




In any event, with your 8.58 ET and 2500 lb weight that converts to about 782 hp. If you want to stick with a 727 you can pick one up at a bone yard. Put a manual valve body in it and a 5.0 shift arm and that’ll handle your power until Rapture!!! If your worried about losing too much ET then get a 727 filled with 904 roller-ized, billet internals. Probably won’t lose much at all. But it’ll cost you!




OK I'll say it. Torqueflites have their purpose. I ran one for years in my stocker. For real power they are junk. But that's just me.

Re: Torqueflite vs Glide [Re: montessa] #1512014
10/07/13 09:45 PM
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Jim, you may want to look into one of the TH400 style trannies out there now using an aftermarket case.
this way you would be using a trans made with 100% aftermarket race quality parts, including the case......and wont have to lose the 3rd gear.


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