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Re: The Official Monster Mopar Thread
[Re: tboomer]
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09/18/13 11:22 AM
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Since we did attend MM at Indy and Norwalk we want to address our thoughts. 1- both were great events 2-rain had adverse effects on both events 3-car count was off at Indy 4-communications could have been better before and after both events 5-many racers feel the event is slanted to the 10.5 cars 6-confusion on the payouts need to be clarified 7-Josh needs to take a more active role and make his presence more noteable. 8-If others are going to represent Josh they should have their information correct. 9-Updates of any changes should be made before,during and after the race in a timely fashion. 10- when questions arise they should be answered in a timely fashion. These comments are not made to complain or badmouth anyone,just examples of suggestions to help make future events go more smoothly. Having attended many events put on by other promoters I can say that there has been issues with everyone.We gave others quite a few years to resolve their issues and we seen their events weaken or fall by the wayside.Not to make excuses for Josh,but he is new at this game and has to get past his learning curve.I personally feel Josh has a full plate of other issues and needs a good event director to handle events of this magnitude.MM is bigger and better than many past events and held at larger venues and needs constant managment to minimize issues. As usual BGR will attend and support Mopar Events unless we feel the promoter is disrespectful of the racers.  
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Re: The Official Monster Mopar Thread
[Re: rt66jim]
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09/18/13 11:52 AM
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I didn't go as it was too far away to be financially doable. I would attend if a race were within say a 4 hour drive. I have read the posts on this subject. I agree with those who are concerned about losing a major event. They are few and far between. I can agree also with those who were not paid what they expected. I can also agree if the payout was going to be changed. The racers should have been notified in advance either by answering e-mails or a hand out at the gate. They then would have had an opportunity to not enter if they choose. Probably wouldn't have been very many who wouldn't have entered a that point. But all would have been aware of the situation and no reason to grumble about it in public.
I also agree with the person who suggested moving it to a lesser track. The overhead would be less and the opportunity to break even is better. I also think that local sponsorship might be doable at a local level.
Also need to get local Mopar car clubs involved. This is where the spectators will come from. In our area there are 5 clubs within 200 miles of MoKan Dragway. If you were to provide an incentive for club participation. I think you could easily get good attendance. Look what Chris McGraw was able to do at Hearland Park with his event in the early 2000. I'm just saying if it is all about having a good time and racing. It doesn't have to be a premier track. They are nice but expensive to rent. The fun will be the same at a lesser facility. And the promoter may have the chance to prosper and the event grow. JMO Jim
Jim, I have been in discussions with Josh about adding another event to the MMW series down here in TN at I40 Dragway in Crossville. We have an all Mopar event coming up in a couple weeks (the first weekend of October), and are hoping to get the word out to the southern Mopar racers such as yourself who would like a closer event. We are hoping next year our little track down here will be joining the MMW series.
So Josh is indeed and has been looking at smaller venues to hold the MMW at. The biggest problem with the smaller tracks is that most can't handle a car count like Norwalk just had. Sometimes the bigger tracks are a necessity for that reason alone. Hope to see any and all that can make it in October!! (shameless plug, lol).
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Re: The Official Monster Mopar Thread
[Re: B G Racing]
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09/18/13 11:52 AM
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Bob George has just about summed it up and I'm sure there may be a few more little things but like he said. It ALL TAKES TIME!!!!! I can also see where Josh has stepped it up in a few area's over past promoters so he is on the right path. I just hope he will stick it out and grow this series so we can all have a place to play but also have a points series to keep it a little competitve. It will take time and input from many but it also has to be fair to the "Promoter" and the attendees. Maybe if there were a couple of events at lesser tracks that could make $$$$ that could help fund the MM finals at Norwalk? I also must ad that Josh has been going through some personal issues in the family and if it was me I know I would not have had any focus on the event at all so please think of this aspect of it also. As for my experience I have been to Indy and Norwalk and loved them both. I was really impressed with the turn out at Norwalk This years event reminded me of events of several years ago when we filled the place with race cars and show cars all weekend and we had fun and more fun!!! Russ
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Re: The Official Monster Mopar Thread
[Re: silverfish]
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09/18/13 12:18 PM
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many racers feel the event is slanted to the 10.5 cars
In what way? I have been to two of the MMW events as a spectator and really didn't see a difference.
Dennis
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Re: The Official Monster Mopar Thread
[Re: silverfish]
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09/18/13 12:18 PM
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Here is an official report that people can fill out in order to file their formal complaint about MMW. Just fill in the blanks and fax or email it to Josh and I'm sure he will file it in it's proper location for you. 
That is priceless. And very true.
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Re: The Official Monster Mopar Thread
[Re: max_maniac]
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09/18/13 12:23 PM
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They biggest issue we see on this site and others is when someone brings a concern or question up it is not addressed but attacked by others that have nothing to contribute in the way of an answer,explanation or resolution but just want to  . We see many viable concerns and questions go unanswered but not unchallenged,usually the challenger has a different agenda or just trying to feel important,it's not working guys.I see many topics on post that I disagree with but I hold back commenting unless I can contribute in a positive manner. People tend to take things personal or bring their own personal issues into a discussion and forget the original question or concerns.Once it gets to that level all viable meaning is lost and someone makes an azz of themselves.
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Re: The Official Monster Mopar Thread
[Re: cudaboy]
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09/18/13 12:47 PM
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many racers feel the event is slanted to the 10.5 cars
In what way? I have been to two of the MMW events as a spectator and really didn't see a difference.
Dennis
I agree I don't see it either. brad
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Re: The Official Monster Mopar Thread
[Re: silverfish]
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09/18/13 12:51 PM
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Here is an official report that people can fill out in order to file their formal complaint about MMW. Just fill in the blanks and fax or email it to Josh and I'm sure he will file it in it's proper location for you.
This is just the kind of thing that will piss off racers,It's fine for Josh's Fast Mopar site but has no place here.It is basicly saying anyone with a question or concern is a whinner and complainer.Remember we are all potential attendees of these events.If this is MM official response I consider it a joke.Racers with concerns an questions need answers not jokes.
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Re: The Official Monster Mopar Thread
[Re: B G Racing]
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09/18/13 12:56 PM
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This is just the kind of thing that will piss off racers,It's fine for Josh's Fast Mopar site but has no place here.It is basicly saying anyone with a question or concern is a whinner and complainer.Remember we are all potential attendees of these events.If this is MM official response I consider it a joke.Racers with concerns an questions need answers not jokes.
Ease up man. It was just meant as a joke to lighten up the mood about this whole thing. I don't think anyone else has taken it seriously.
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Re: The Official Monster Mopar Thread
[Re: B G Racing]
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09/18/13 01:15 PM
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Just a few of the comments I have received on this site( all by well known and long time members who are well respected)....notably not a single bad word has been sent my way... " Well said,my friend" " Don, I am glad you and few others are at least seeing and speaking the truth" " Don, be careful, I have been told not to post on these threads" " Myself, no way I would drive 12 hours for a payout that isn't even posted" I could post other comments, but they are more personal regards there feelings about how the events have been trotted out. I can understand sticking up for Josh because of worry about having a Mopar event to race at, but its simply unfair to get slammed for posting facts... none of which thus far have been refuted. That is almost always the action of people who have no comeback at all, they just think by ridiculing someone, it will lessen the impact of what they said.Doesnt work that way, just shows ignorance. Josh should simply grow up, quit making lame excuses, and if he has a problem, let everyone know instead of only dealing ith it when he is forced to. That is ALWAYS the best recipe for success. Personally, the badmouthing doesnt bother me at all. Nobody that knows me well and I consider a friend( and I have many on here I can call friends) has spoken negatively like a few others of you have. You should listen to Bob George. He has an outstanding reputation in the racing community, has promoted events himself, and made many excellent points. Unfortunately for me, he has way better political skills than I will ever have.
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Re: The Official Monster Mopar Thread
[Re: B3422W5]
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09/18/13 01:20 PM
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Just a few of the comments I have received on this site( all by well known and long time members who are well respected)....notably not a single bad word has been sent my way...
" Well said,my friend"
" Don, I am glad you and few others are at least seeing and speaking the truth"
" Don, be careful, I have been told not to post on these threads"
" Myself, no way I would drive 12 hours for a payout that isn't even posted"
I could post other comments, but they are more personal regards there feelings about how the events have been trotted out.
I can understand sticking up for Josh because of worry about having a Mopar event to race at, but its simply unfair to get slammed for posting facts... none of which thus far have been refuted.
That is almost always the action of people who have no comeback at all, they just think by ridiculing someone, it will lessen the impact of what they said.Doesnt work that way, just shows ignorance.
Josh should simply grow up, quit making lame excuses, and if he has a problem, let everyone know instead of only dealing ith it when he is forced to. That is ALWAYS the best recipe for success.
Personally, the badmouthing doesnt bother me at all. Nobody that knows me well and I consider a friend( and I have many on here I can call friends) has spoken negatively like a few others of you have.
You should listen to Bob George. He has an outstanding reputation in the racing community, has promoted events himself, and made many excellent points.
Unfortunately for me, he has way better political skills than I will ever have.
It's not political skills at all, it's just what we call down on the farm "common sence" which you have as well.
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Think I will keep a copy on my counter here a work. Jim