compression test reults 125-148psi-too much difference?
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08/18/13 09:35 PM
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Finally got in the garage and compression tested my cars 1972 400cu-in engine, factory 8.2 to 1 compression as far as i know, 128,000 miles. I thought i may have a bad timing chain, have not pulled timing cover yet but am 1/2way there, block drained, etc - previous post here --https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=QuestionAnswer&Number=7783679&Searchpage=1&Main=7783679&Words=+ignoble&topic=&Search=true#Post7783679
So a test showed on the gage 148-135-138-132-131-135-140-125 psi. Is the rule of thumb 10% variation or more, is too much difference? With only cylinder #1 still at a high psi#, i wonder if its time for a machine shop evaluation or other plans in addition to a probable loose chain ? Thoughts ? Thanks.
Last edited by ignoble; 08/18/13 10:31 PM.
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Re: compression test reults 125-148psi-too much difference?
[Re: ignoble]
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08/19/13 04:58 AM
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I recall an article awhile back that stated a 10% spread is within acceptable limits for a street engine. 10% of 148 is about 15 PSI. Your difference is 23. For high performance street/strip engines, 5% was the goal. For reference, the last test I did to my 2500 mile 493 was 185-192. Thats 3.6%. Mine idles a bit rough though. Should idle a bit rougher with the bigger cam! If the engine does not smoke, shake or have bad street manners, run it. Enjoy it.
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Re: compression test reults 125-148psi-too much difference?
[Re: Paul_Fancsali]
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08/19/13 01:30 PM
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A point needs to be made here. A timing chain won't make the compression readings vary like that.
You're either looking at rings or a valve that leaks on the low cylinder. If it was a chevy smallblock from the '60s or '70s it might be a bad camshaft lobe.
Put a spark plug in just that cylinder and spin the motor. Listen for the leak. An intake leak will be easy to spot, an exhaust leak a little more difficult. If there isn't an obvious leaking valve, squirt a little SAE 30 motor oil in the affected hole and redo compression test on that cylinder. If compression comes up markedly, it's rings.
If you find a bad exhaust valve the head should come off. Burnt exhaust valves can torch a hole in the valve seat area. A bad intake valve you can live with better. A bad ring seal can also be lived with. There are downsides to any of these "living with it" scenarios, though.
Now another point: Your 8.2:1 400 is really more like 7.2:1 if you were to measure everything and calculate. I'd suggest starting to plan an engine rebuild. Tech advice from this board is free and mostly very good.
R.
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Re: compression test reults 125-148psi-too much difference?
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08/19/13 07:51 PM
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Put the sparkplug back into # 8 cylinder and cranked it over, did not hear any air leakage. Put 5W30 oil into Cyl # 8 and cranked for about as long as it took too get to 125 psi last time [dry] , this time with oil its closer to 133 psi. With a lot of cranking and more oil it pushed almost to 145 psi Thanks everyone !
Last edited by ignoble; 08/19/13 07:57 PM.
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