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340 blocking filling ?? mr p body or ????????? #1480241
08/05/13 09:06 PM
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i was working on my old 340 block to day . i knocked out the freez plugs. im looking thro the freez plug holes in side of block. and was thinking if u level the motor on one side u could pour hard block filler in between the two clyinders that are side by side throu the freez plug hole this might be crazy or whould it work to stiffin up the block

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Re: 340 blocking filing ?? mr p body or ????????? [Re: all spooled up] #1480242
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It will help it but that concrete isnt as strong as
iron.. are you trying to strengthen the cyl walls or
the bottom end... the bottom end is pretty decent on
the small block

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trying to strengthen both the walls and bottom end

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Re: 340 blocking filing ?? mr p body or ????????? [Re: all spooled up] #1480244
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Get a measurement to how high you want to fill it from
the deck... put your freeze plugs in and use the Moroso
block filler... its creamier and flows better... tap
the block with a dead blow hammer to get it all spread
out and in the small areas... then bolt the head on
and torque it(have the mains on and torqued before
you start)

Re: 340 blocking filing ?? mr p body or ????????? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1480245
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Re: 340 blocking filing ?? mr p body or ????????? [Re: all spooled up] #1480246
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I would suggest blasting it or something inside to get out as much rust as possible so the fill will stick better. Then have it line honed and bored afterward.


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Re: 340 blocking filing ?? mr p body or ????????? [Re: Guitar Jones] #1480247
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I would suggest blasting it or something inside to get out as much rust as possible so the fill will stick better. Then have it line honed and bored afterward.




You can sand blast it til hell freezes over.. the filler
wont
adhere to the iron.... all the fillers shrink a small
amount and being a concrete product it really doesnt
adhere to anything... all its in there for is a
reinforcement

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Re: 340 blocking filing ?? mr p body or ????????? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1480248
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I just filled my 360 block this past winter.

Machining had already been done, and I used a product called Embecco 885 recommended by many as better than hard block and the moroso. Poured one side, bolted on a head and old gasket, torqued it down, as well as all the main caps...Couple days later poured the other side and did the same thing.


No problems so far with it, and it turned out nice.

Also, to clean the inside of the block real good in the water jackets, use some muriatic acid. It needs to be clean in there for the filler to stick, and this stuff will eat ALL the crap away. I would even use it on a block that isn't getting filled just to get the water jackets clean. Just make sure you do it somewhere with good ventilation and don't let it sit too long, then have a hose on hand to rinse it all out real good. You'll be amazed at what comes outta there.


Good luck!

Re: 340 blocking filing ?? mr p body or ????????? [Re: mshred] #1480249
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I have Embeco 885 in my block also. I had the block baked/blasted before we did it.

The fact that it hasen't broken yet(Knock on wood), is a testemant to the stuff.

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Quote:

I just filled my 360 block this past winter.

Machining had already been done, and I used a product called Embecco 885 recommended by many as better than hard block and the moroso. Poured one side, bolted on a head and old gasket, torqued it down, as well as all the main caps...Couple days later poured the other side and did the same thing.


No problems so far with it, and it turned out nice.

Also, to clean the inside of the block real good in the water jackets, use some muriatic acid. It needs to be clean in there for the filler to stick, and this stuff will eat ALL the crap away. I would even use it on a block that isn't getting filled just to get the water jackets clean. Just make sure you do it somewhere with good ventilation and don't let it sit too long, then have a hose on hand to rinse it all out real good. You'll be amazed at what comes outta there.


Good luck!




Hate to tell you.. it doesnt stick to the iron..but
if it has minimal shrinkage then at least its close
to the cyl walls... I had one block a few year back
that was ground on at the bottom for rod clearance
and the guy got carried away and there was a small
leak at the bottom... I figured if I filled it with
a short fill it would take care of it.. it still leaked
so I ended up putting stopleak in it and it stopped it







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