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How is SE trim identified? #1480015 08/05/13 02:37 PM 08/05/13 02:37 PM
Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 144 canada L lrtexpress OP member
lrtexpress OP member L Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 144 canada	How is the SE tim package indicated for a 1970 E Body , on tag?, on sheet? Thx

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: lrtexpress] #1480016 08/05/13 02:52 PM 08/05/13 02:52 PM
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318 Stroker master 3 Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,325 St. Louis, Mo	Quote: How is the SE tim package indicated for a 1970 E Body , on tag?, on sheet? Thx Neither. It's denoted in the VIN. A non-SE would be JH23 for a hardtop, JS23 for an R/T hardtop. A regular SE would be JH29, an R/T S/E would be JS29. The 3rd and 4th digits being a 29 denotes SE's...

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: 318 Stroker] #1480017 08/05/13 03:01 PM 08/05/13 03:01 PM
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lrtexpress OP member L Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 144 canada	So for a convertible RT / SE JS27 ?

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: lrtexpress] #1480018 08/05/13 03:04 PM 08/05/13 03:04 PM
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318 Stroker master 3 Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,325 St. Louis, Mo	Quote: So for a convertible RT / SE JS27 ? Correct, if there is such a thing. I don't believe you could get an R/T SE vert, hence no JS27 designation. I could be wrong, and someone here will correct me if I am...

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: lrtexpress] #1480019 08/05/13 03:06 PM 08/05/13 03:06 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal	Quote: How is the SE tim package indicated for a 1970 E Body , on tag?, on sheet? Thx What you are talking about is the Molding Group Option? There is one code for 1970 and another for 1971. 1970: A63 http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/imag...llenger0002.jpg 1971: A46 http://www.hamtramck-historical.com/imag...hallenger_3.jpg It is for sure on the Build Sheet for both years. I know it's on the fender tag for 1971. I'm not 100% positive if it's on the fender tag for 1970, but I think it is. It's just a molding group that comes standard and included with 1970 Challenger S/E's. It is not exclusive to 1970 Challenger S/E's whatsoever. All other 1970 Challengers could get A63 unless is was not allowed by another option. In 1971 the molding group did not include the astrotone rear tailight panel. Last edited by autoxcuda; 08/05/13 03:12 PM.

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: autoxcuda] #1480020 08/05/13 03:18 PM 08/05/13 03:18 PM
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lrtexpress OP member L Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 144 canada	Thanks!!! , pulled out the sheet and it does show up on both sheet and tag. Good Mopar lesson for the the day

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: 318 Stroker] #1480021 08/05/13 03:18 PM 08/05/13 03:18 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal	Quote: Quote: So for a convertible RT / SE JS27 ? Correct, if there is such a thing. I don't believe you could get an R/T SE vert, hence no JS27 designation. I could be wrong, and someone here will correct me if I am... No such thing as a S/E convertible. The main ingredient to a 1970 Challenger S/E was the formal roof and overhead console. Convertibles do not have roofs.

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: lrtexpress] #1480022 08/05/13 03:21 PM 08/05/13 03:21 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal	Quote: Thanks!!! , pulled out the sheet and it does show up on both sheet and tag. Good Mopar lesson for the the day Is your Challenger a S/E model? Or is it a Challenger with the optional A63 Molding group?

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: autoxcuda] #1480023 08/05/13 03:26 PM 08/05/13 03:26 PM
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lrtexpress OP member L Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 144 canada	It is a convertible, with the A63 code.

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: lrtexpress] #1480024 08/05/13 03:32 PM 08/05/13 03:32 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal	Quote: It is a convertible, with the A63 code. Cool. The rear belt "door top" quarter window trim is exclusive to Convertibles with A63. And I hear it is a [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] to find. But maybe Jerome Verbit made some once?? Can't remember.

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: autoxcuda] #1480025 08/05/13 08:07 PM 08/05/13 08:07 PM
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70BigBlockSE enthusiast 7 Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 299 Jacksonville Fl	just and fyi, A63 is not on my 70 Challenger fender tag

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: 70BigBlockSE] #1480026 08/05/13 08:18 PM 08/05/13 08:18 PM
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chargervert I Live Here Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 15,996 RI Deep in the rust belt	Quote: just and fyi, A63 is not on my 70 Challenger fender tag My guess as to why A63 does not show up on your tag,is that your car is an SE and the trim was included standard as part of the SE package. It would show up on the tag of a non SE car with the molding added as an option. 70 Charger R/T SE 472 Hemi 70 Charger R/T convertible 70 Charger R/T V Code Sixpack 69 Charger R/T SE Sunroofcar 68 Charger 383 68 Charger 318 71 Charger R/T 70 Challenger convertible 71 Challenger convertible 71 Cuda 340 09 Challenger R/T Classic

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: chargervert] #1480027 08/05/13 10:12 PM 08/05/13 10:12 PM
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autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal	Quote: Quote: just and fyi, A63 is not on my 70 Challenger fender tag My guess as to why A63 does not show up on your tag,is that your car is an SE and the trim was included standard as part of the SE package. It would show up on the tag of a non SE car with the molding added as an option.

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: autoxcuda] #1480028 08/06/13 12:06 AM 08/06/13 12:06 AM
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lrtexpress OP member L Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 144 canada	So for the hardtops did they automatically get the SE badging (classification) when the A78 was added, or was there a box to tick off when ordering back in the day, that was for a SE package that included multiple options, ie. A78,A63 , and did the vin change for a SE

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: lrtexpress] #1480029 08/06/13 02:00 PM 08/06/13 02:00 PM
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318 Stroker master 3 Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 4,325 St. Louis, Mo	Quote: So for the hardtops did they automatically get the SE badging (classification) when the A78 was added, or was there a box to tick off when ordering back in the day, that was for a SE package that included multiple options, ie. A78,A63 , and did the vin change for a SE A true SE would have all off the SE moldings, along with the formal padded vinyl roof, overhead console, and SE badging on the vinyl roof, and "Special Edition" badging" on the door panels, along with the carpeting and courtesy lights on the bottom of them. A true SE will have the 29 as the 3rd and 4th digits of the VIN. A non SE, with the SE molding packages, would not have the formal padded roof, or the exterior SE roof badging. Not sure about the door panel "Special Edition" badging. It would have a 23 (hardtop) or 27 (convertible) as the 3rd and 4th VIN digits.

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: 318 Stroker] #1480030 08/06/13 03:38 PM 08/06/13 03:38 PM
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antonellomopar enthusiast A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 292 italy	I have a 70 Challenger with the A 63 package. The option is present on the fender tag and the BS. It includes the belt moldings, the hood molding, the lower radiator opening molding, the rear finish panel, the sill moldings. The interior is SE, with fabric insert on the seats, carpet on the door panels . No overhead console . Car is low mileage, and interior all original.

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: antonellomopar] #1480031 08/07/13 12:17 AM 08/07/13 12:17 AM
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lrtexpress OP member L Joined: Nov 2011 Posts: 144 canada	Assume your car does not have the A78 formal rear window, what is the first four digits on the vin?

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: lrtexpress] #1480032 08/07/13 02:27 AM 08/07/13 02:27 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,483 So Cal	Quote: Assume your car does not have the A78 formal rear window, what is the first four digits on the vin? A78 as it own stand alone option was only available in 1971 on Challengers. In 1970 the Formal Roof was only available with the seperate S/E model Challenger.

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: autoxcuda] #1480033 08/07/13 02:59 AM 08/07/13 02:59 AM
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antonellomopar enthusiast A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 292 italy	JS23V0B Car has all SE options, but not the SE package, so no formal roof.

Re: How is SE trim identified? [Re: antonellomopar] #1480034 08/07/13 03:28 AM 08/07/13 03:28 AM
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Alaskan_TA Fluffy Balladeer A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 29,660 Hamtramck, PA	As mentioned before, the SE was a separate 1970 model not a series of options. The molding group was available on Challenger & Challenger R/T. The leather & cloth interiors also. The SE models got the small rear window, the overhead consolette, Special Edition logos in the door panels with SE emblems in the c-pillars & the 29 in the VIN along with wider rear vinyl top trim at the rear. While some items were available on other 1970 Challengers as options, these features were unique to the SE.

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