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what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? #1479167
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so many different shades of it on restored cars.. which paint brand is most correct? or are any? my car looks wrong to me but after comparing it to an orig painted piece i still have of the trunk floor its darn close... thoughts?

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: ph23vo] #1479168
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Don't know or sure but my .02 is I 1st did my duster in DuPont chroma base in high school. I then burned front half up with a fire and redid it like a year later in PPG DBC basecoat. The two were not the same. DuPont was lighter and PPG was more violet. Now granted the DuPont was shot over a gray sealer while the PPG was shot over K36 as a sealer that was tinted violet. That will make a difference and personally I
Liked the PPG better.


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Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: ph23vo] #1479169
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After looking at a ton of original cars over the years, I've come to one conclusion-there is NO constant...

A lot of the Dodge cars I've looked at appear to be darker than Plymouth...

Find an 'original' area, and get a color chip that matches accordingly...

I went through a half dozen before I went with Standox...

Dead-nuts match...

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: RSNOMO] #1479170
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All I can say is good luck on your quest to find a good accurate representation of the color, Although different I had a couple of months of heatburn trying to get a good match for FJ5. Even in single stage the pigments just arent the same today as they were then.
I wound up going with a custom mix of BCCC to get what I felt wasagood match for what was originally on the car.

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: LimeliteAero] #1479171
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I had this car which was PPG and it was a beautiful FC7.

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: RJS] #1479172
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Then I had this one which was a little less Purple, NAPA paint.

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: RJS] #1479173
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And now just bought this car which paint brand is unknown but it is more silver than either previous car,
The rims which I'm changing out to Black are are real nice Purple shade.
So 3 cars all different.
If I were painting a car FC7 I'd use PPG, it was by far the nicest shade.

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: ph23vo] #1479174
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Standox, is very close, I use it every day and their colours are great. To be right thou you need direct gloss 2k.... that would be a better looking old metallic, basecoat clearcoat looks to modern sometimes....

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: 8trackbee] #1479175
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PPG....

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: Chally426] #1479176
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I like the BASF diamont I used on mine. just the right amount of violet used over vs4 shade sealer

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Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: stinger] #1479177
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another compared to the new purple chally

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Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: ph23vo] #1479178
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Dupont had two formulas for plum crazy, one more violet the other lighter. The more violet was Alt.2 which matched the original on a 71 Demon. When these cars were painted originally paint was supplied in large batches and there was some variation between the batches as supplied. If at all possible get a camera read or an original area which will generate a formula that will match. Just dead nuts matched K5 using this method. Used Lesonal,(Sikkens). With new air quality regs waterborne will be taking over so it's a new ballgame. As I remember it real plum crazy was more violet and yes I was painting them back then but each of us sees color differently. Oh the magic of eyesight!!

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: aardakota] #1479179
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I did my 70 Challenger R/T in ppg paint base clear. It said "plum fc7" on the can. I didn't have any original paint to compare to. I'm happy with it, pictures don't do it justice.

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: stinger] #1479180
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I like the BASF diamont I used on mine. just the right amount of violet used over vs4 shade sealer




mine looks just like this.. and it matches the trunk paint pretty close so i guess its all good!

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: stinger] #1479181
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another compared to the new purple chally




another just like mine..

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: stinger] #1479182
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another compared to the new purple chally




Stinger's car looks like my Demon, but my eye likes PPG better

Re: what does REAL plum crazy purple look like? [Re: RJS] #1479183
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another compared to the new purple chally




Stinger's car looks like my Demon, but my eye likes PPG better




original color of my car was not as chromatic as other c7 colors I've seen but not as blan either. then again we're trying to match a single stage metallic with base/clear.not gonna happen.

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it also depends on the color of primer, prep and most important..the spray equipment and the person doing it..even if they all use the same brand paint...I see it with my color on the car..cars come out with different shades

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i dont know if this will help but here is a real time capsule. This was my dads 70 chall he purchased while overseas in vietnam thru the chrysler armed forces rep. The picture was taken in 70-73 range with original paint on it. this photo was taken with one of the better films available then. Kodachrome. my dad was a very good photographer and it looks like it was taken yesterday. LOL..

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i dont know if this will help but here is a real time capsule. This was my dads 70 chall he purchased while overseas in vietnam thru the chrysler armed forces rep. The picture was taken in 70-73 range with original paint on it. this photo was taken with one of the better films available then. Kodachrome. my dad was a very good photographer and it looks like it was taken yesterday. LOL..


Not to steal the thread but to bolster your claim, Kodachrome is considered an archival quality film. Unlike the E-4 and E-6 process Ektachrome, Fujichrome and Agfa slide films, Kodachrome's dyes do not shift with time. If stored in darkness, the slides have a calculated 185 year span before some of the yellow starts to go away. The only thing better would be a picture made by a modern digital camera transported in a time machine to 1970 to retake the picture.
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