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Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: Copper Dart] #1477909
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Some of my issues was resolved with just making a shim and moving the rocker arms,,Also while checking this , we measured the actual ratio and found that the proforms was not a 1-5, , so we ordered a new set of 1-5 from crane,as well as a set of 1-6,In order to get the ave of a 1-5 ratio,I needed 1-6 rocker!
I guess a guy could actual just go nuts and check every rocker arm /push rod, lifter measure every cam lobe, everything to the inth degree.
Make no mistake tho,just because it is a so called valued name brand that there are no issues is foolish,or just because the part is one of a cheaper caliber,does not mean that it will not work as told by the maker!
For some reason most of these seasoned racers tend to have that holy than tho syndrome, and if you are not running the parts that they run you are some kind of a 'tool' .
When it comes to performance parts, no one maker has the end to issues that crops up from time to time in their products,
Some engine builders seam to build more into it than what is really out there.
No one can say where a budget falls on this as it vairies to much from a street guy , to full out race acholic!
At one point we Mopar guys wished that there was performance parts that was cheap enough to make more power out of our stuff, now we have such, and fits a lot of budgets for just about everyone,

Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: Copper Dart] #1477910
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I can tell you this;
I have a new found level of RESPECT for you guys like MR P BODY and the like!
I never knew your level of dedication and commitment to go FAST!
I am blown away at the costs of good performance parts.
You guys either out of your minds or wealthy or a little of both.
Congrats to you all with so much AIR under the wheels! WOW!!!
Ricky


now that we have all that cleared up, what part of Florida?

Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: Quicktree] #1477911
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Western, West Palm Beach.
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Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: Copper Dart] #1477912
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Quicktree,
Western, West Palm Beach.
Loxahatchee




cool we are up north in Jacksonville and race at Gainesville most of the time by the way nice looking car from what I see.

Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: Copper Dart] #1477913
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Quicktree,
Western, West Palm Beach.
Loxahatchee




With that said I know what engine builder you are not using as he would never suggest that rocker.

Good luck with the build

Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: JohnRR] #1477914
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Loxahatchee




With that said I know what engine builder you are not using as he would never suggest that rocker.

Good luck with the build


same here

Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: Copper Dart] #1477915
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You guys either out of your minds or wealthy or a little of both.




I'm sure we've all run "budget" parts at some time in our lives only to find out that its cheaper in the long run to spend a little more on quality products.

Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: Stanton] #1477916
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I'll try to do right by my Mopar brothers (and sisters too) keeping them on the road proud.


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Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: Copper Dart] #1477917
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Let me clear the air.
I'm the one thats un-knowing.
My engine builder is a well known professional with many years under his belt and his expertise and experience with especially big block Mopar would never be questioned. He was trying to save me a buck on this mild build and expected no big issues with the Proform parts. Lesson learned.
I agree with some of you that we will resolve this issue by replacing the rockers with a better quality set. (I hope )
I will post results as I receive them.
Cant find the "Graemlin" for Crossing my fingers.




IF he`s that bad ass he wouldn`t skimp in one of the areas that can do the most damage to your motor..........


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Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: Thumperdart] #1477918
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It was ALOT more me than him. I'm the one trying to squeeze as much for as little.
Just for the record, the HS's have been ordered and in route OUCH!

Thumper dart, nice shot!
Reminds me while as a younger man watching Mr. Mike Toot and his bad ass Dart's @ Miami Hollywood International Speedway.


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Good on the HS` and it wasn`t a shot just facts............


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Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: Thumperdart] #1477920
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Good on the HS` and it wasn`t a shot just facts............


he mighta meant nice shot(pic) of your car

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Good on the HS` and it wasn`t a shot just facts............


he mighta meant nice shot(pic) of your car


Could be...........


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Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: forphorty] #1477922
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Good on the HS` and it wasn`t a shot just facts............


he mighta meant nice shot(pic) of your car




Yep, that's what I meant.
It's like a graduation picture. ( I Finnished college )
Here's my Diploma!

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Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: Copper Dart] #1477924
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It was ALOT more me than him. I'm the one trying to squeeze as much for as little.
Just for the record, the HS's have been ordered and in route OUCH!

Thumper dart, nice shot!
Reminds me while as a younger man watching Mr. Mike Toot and his bad ass Dart's @ Miami Hollywood International Speedway.




Which Harland sharps did you get? The ones you need are only available thru Mancini , at least they were only available thru Mancini , they are bushed on the shaft instead of full roller bearing.

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I can tell you this;
I have a new found level of RESPECT for you guys like MR P BODY and the like!
I never knew your level of dedication and commitment to go FAST!
I am blown away at the costs of good performance parts.
You guys either out of your minds or wealthy or a little of both.
Congrats to you all with so much AIR under the wheels! WOW!!!
Ricky




Not all of us are rich...ALL of my turbo setup has came from china, and the only part that has failed was me on the tuning end

Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: SLOW67] #1477926
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I haven't been informed which ones nor how much $
I will update soon.

I'm so friggin excited about the Dyno Run-In I can't stand myself.
I'm like continuously walking around trying to hide a woody every time I think about it.


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Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: Copper Dart] #1477927
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I haven't been informed which ones nor how much $
I will update soon.

I'm so friggin excited about the Dyno Run-In I can't stand myself.
I'm like continuously walking around trying to hide a woody every time I think about it.




Well you should find out , if he ordered the wrongs ones it's going to be more headaches.

Re: STEALTH HEADS AND PROFORM ROLLER ROCKER ISSUES! [Re: JohnRR] #1477928
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Wrong "Harland Sharp" Rockers?
What would be considered wrong?
I'm certain he knows what he's doing and I'm keeping my mouth shut and suggestions to myself.
I've caused enough grief already.

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