46RE without computer?
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anyway to make a 46RE work without a computer? not worried about overdrive or Lockup as it is for a mud racer
1985 Crew Cab W250 4x4 - daily driver, 5.9 magnum, carbed and distributor, A-518 and NP205
2002 3500 extended cab, 4x4, Cummins and 6 speed
1997 Ram 2500 5.9 with 35 Boggers - Mud Racer
1993 Dakota 4x4, Dana 60's front and rear - work in progress
1992 Dakota 2wd short bed, awaiting 440 swap
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Re: 46RE without computer?
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without a signal, it will never go into low gear, and at best will start in second.(that's the reason so many of them burned up, the solenoid/pressure transducer died, and the customer kept driving it). im thinking that a series of on/off switches might get you to where you want to go, but im watching for some other opinions on this. very interesting question...
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Re: 46RE without computer?
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Nope, it needs a computer to control the governor pressure. I believe it will be stuck in 3rd without controller.
I have a rough schematic drawn out for the controller; just haven't had time to continue working on it yet.
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Re: 46RE without computer?
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not what i was wanting to hear. . . . now to figure out tranny options. . .
1985 Crew Cab W250 4x4 - daily driver, 5.9 magnum, carbed and distributor, A-518 and NP205
2002 3500 extended cab, 4x4, Cummins and 6 speed
1997 Ram 2500 5.9 with 35 Boggers - Mud Racer
1993 Dakota 4x4, Dana 60's front and rear - work in progress
1992 Dakota 2wd short bed, awaiting 440 swap
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Re: 46RE without computer?
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not what i was wanting to hear. . . . now to figure out tranny options. . .
If you want the overdrive tranny you need to find a earlier 89 to 91 46RH. It has nn lockup and no electronic governor and it needs NO computer. I just built one behind a 66 440 with a ultrabell(not my choice) and it works great. Have a switch hooked for the overdrive and tranny works great. It will have 4.10's behind it and will be used to pull enclosed trailer. Set up is in 84 Ramcharger 2wd. Me personnally I like John's idea. Go with a 727 especially in a mud truck.
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Re: 46RE without computer?
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anyway to make a 46RE work without a computer? not worried about overdrive or Lockup as it is for a mud racer
The Megasquirt people are developing a controller for transmissions called the Mega-shift. Search their forums for that.
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Re: 46RE without computer?
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Not interested in the overdrive or lockup. Problem with a 727 is it has to mate to a transfer case with a driver side drop for the truck. I've got a shorty 727, but a divorced Ford NP205 tranfer case has proven to be cost prohibitive. Was hoping to keep the tranny in the truck and be able to run it without the computer, so i could swap to a carb on the motor and MSD box
1985 Crew Cab W250 4x4 - daily driver, 5.9 magnum, carbed and distributor, A-518 and NP205
2002 3500 extended cab, 4x4, Cummins and 6 speed
1997 Ram 2500 5.9 with 35 Boggers - Mud Racer
1993 Dakota 4x4, Dana 60's front and rear - work in progress
1992 Dakota 2wd short bed, awaiting 440 swap
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Re: 46RE without computer?
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Not interested in the overdrive or lockup. Problem with a 727 is it has to mate to a transfer case with a driver side drop for the truck. I've got a shorty 727, but a divorced Ford NP205 tranfer case has proven to be cost prohibitive. Was hoping to keep the tranny in the truck and be able to run it without the computer, so i could swap to a carb on the motor and MSD box
Were all 4x4 727's divorced T case ?
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Re: 46RE without computer?
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If you'd prefer to keep the trans you have and you're not interested in OD or lockup why not go full manual? The Transgo TFOD-3 valve body kit will give you total control.
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Re: 46RE without computer?
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If you'd prefer to keep the trans you have and you're not interested in OD or lockup why not go full manual? The Transgo TFOD-3 valve body kit will give you total control.
John, so with that kit in the valve body, it will bypass the computer completely and be a manual valve body? if so, that sounds great!
Not all 4x4 were divorced transfer cases. Dodge had some in the 70's, Ford had some in the 70's as well. Difference being that the dodge had the pumpkin on the passenger side of the truck and ford had the pumpkin on the driver side. Now, dodge has gone to the pumpkin on the driver side, so an older ford NP205 will work on the newer trucks
1985 Crew Cab W250 4x4 - daily driver, 5.9 magnum, carbed and distributor, A-518 and NP205
2002 3500 extended cab, 4x4, Cummins and 6 speed
1997 Ram 2500 5.9 with 35 Boggers - Mud Racer
1993 Dakota 4x4, Dana 60's front and rear - work in progress
1992 Dakota 2wd short bed, awaiting 440 swap
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Re: 46RE without computer?
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If I go with the transgo kit, will i be able to use any shifter designed for the 727 as long as it is forward shift pattern?
1985 Crew Cab W250 4x4 - daily driver, 5.9 magnum, carbed and distributor, A-518 and NP205
2002 3500 extended cab, 4x4, Cummins and 6 speed
1997 Ram 2500 5.9 with 35 Boggers - Mud Racer
1993 Dakota 4x4, Dana 60's front and rear - work in progress
1992 Dakota 2wd short bed, awaiting 440 swap
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Re: 46RE without computer?
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Any aftermarket cable shifter should work.
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