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Relocating springs on an early A-body....pics? #1474438
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We want to relocate the leaf springs on our '65 Dart, and are thinking of going 3" inboard (into the frame rails.)

I've done a search but couldn't find any posts with pictures of them done into the rails.

Anyone have pics of welded in front perches and the rear shackles installed or can point me toward old posts that I missed? Thanks

Re: Relocating springs on an early A-body....pics? [Re: dustergirl340] #1474439
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Get the magnum force kit it's the best one on the market

Re: Relocating springs on an early A-body....pics? [Re: dustergirl340] #1474440
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It's the same procedure as any other A body.

Re: Relocating springs on an early A-body....pics? [Re: mopowers] #1474441
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Go here...

http://www.reillymotorsports.com/store/home.php?cat=276

Buy only the boxes as the rest of the stuff is cheap and relatively easy to get unless going sliders.

The rear you have to make sure you get proper shackle angle. That can be a chore sometimes. If you are using the current springs and the rear shackle angle is correct, pass the tube through the frame in same approximate location.

I'd reuse the old shackle if in good shape and get some urethane bushings.

There is one pic of the boxes installed by pettybluedart on FABO, IIRC. Not a great pic. As Mopowers mentions, same install process as any other 67-76 A body.

Re: Relocating springs on an early A-body....pics? [Re: RobX4406] #1474442
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Thanks! We're going with the Reilly Motorsports ones.

Re: Relocating springs on an early A-body....pics? [Re: dustergirl340] #1474443
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My 65 Dart,,,,,I set the rear back a 1/2 inch for extra tire clearance at the front lip. This may get real close to the fuel tank, it did with the 8.8 rear I put in. Be sure and go as high as you can with the top holes, otherwise the stance with SS springs will be very high. I put two inch lowering blocks on this car to get a decent stance with 3400 lb SS springs. The next lighter set of springs may drop the stance somewhat, certainly wouldn't hurt the ride. Mine is a bit stiff.

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Re: Relocating springs on an early A-body....pics? [Re: gregsdart] #1474444
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I got this kit from Mancinis. You need to drill your own holes. Having them perfectly square in the car is extremely important. I didn't do it, but a 1/2 inch rod long enough to go through both relocating boxes would help with proper placement.


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Re: Relocating springs on an early A-body....pics? [Re: gregsdart] #1474445
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Thanks for the advice and the pictures! Nice Dart.

Re: Relocating springs on an early A-body....pics? [Re: gregsdart] #1474446
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I did it the hard way with my '65.
What I later learned was to use the stock front spring mounts to locate your holes on the new inboard spring mounts.
Get the boxes welded in , then bolt up the stock mounts and use a 5/8" transfer punch ( Maybe it was 1/2 " with the stock mount , I don't remember now )to mark the original holes. Then measure and move from that point.... or use them if you want that location.
I used plumb bobs from the torsion bar cross member and projected spring mount hole center line.....measured four or five times and drilled once. LOL
I went back 3/4" with the axle , and with the housing braced it gets close , but still fits with the stock tank.
I also had the housing narrowed 2" per side and can fit a 295 - 55 X 15 on a 15 X 10 with a 6.5" back space. This fits comfortably and I could possibly squeeze more in there , but not a 315 I don't think.
I used sliders on the back , but a block to move the shackle mount will get the geometry ironed out easy enough.

Re: Relocating springs on an early A-body....pics? [Re: tubtar] #1474447
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Big Block Dart site has a whole feature in the tech section.Some pretty good pictures with some good instructions.One of the best is to weld a large washer on the rear frame tube to reinforce it.Dont know how much room you need but they have a 1/2 inch shackle kit to move them also.Rocky


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Re: Relocating springs on an early A-body....pics? [Re: therocks] #1474448
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Here's how I get mine in and level.

RMS boxes are already drilled so it should be easy to install.

Level car, cut a front hanger in half, use a 1/2 or 5/8" bar spanning the width. Level the bar and shim each hanger as necessary to get it square.


Re: Relocating springs on an early A-body....pics? [Re: RobX4406] #1474449
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Quote:

Here's how I get mine in and level.

RMS boxes are already drilled so it should be easy to install.

Level car, cut a front hanger in half, use a 1/2 or 5/8" bar spanning the width. Level the bar and shim each hanger as necessary to get it square.






I tried finding pics of this Rob......I thought the bar was a great idea but couldn't figure out how to explain it.
using the original hangers for line up is certainly gonna get you factory close.







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