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Low compression big block #1472500
07/23/13 09:41 AM
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Has anybody used the Comp 265 DEH grind in a low compression big block? The early intake closing of 32.5* and an intake centerline of 106* makes me think that it may work out pretty well, but there is nothing like some real world feedback.


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Re: Low compression big block [Re: rbstroker] #1472501
07/23/13 10:10 AM
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this it? http://www.summitracing.com/parts/cca-21-404-4/overview/make/dodge

looks like it's on a 110 centerline not 106. If so it should work fine.


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Re: Low compression big block [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1472502
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I would say it should work pretty well in almost any setup and perform similar to a stock HP cam, with a bit more kick to it and a touch more of an aggressive idle. It may idle just as good with the modern ramps. Either way, it should be fine for a stock converter though.

I'm assuming its supposed to be installed four degrees advanced for an installed centerline of 106, but you can always move any cams installed centerline to get an earlier intake closing point, as well as the rest of the valvetrain events. Make sure you degree it, especially in that low compression engine.

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Re: Low compression big block [Re: GTX MATT] #1472503
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Right. The lobe centerline is 110* but the recommended intake centerline is 106* for a 4* advance. I'm hoping that the early intake closing event and low overlap will wake up the really low mid 70's 440.


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Re: Low compression big block [Re: rbstroker] #1472504
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not sure about cam specs lingo but should'nt it read as...

110* lobe seperation angle with a 106* intake center line for a 4* advance?

this is what a hughes whiplash cam is for, low comp stock engines.

early intake close to build cyl pressure and not bleed off lowend torque.

I have 2 SB whiplash roller cams in stock 318s and 1 BB whiplash cam going in my 77 lopo 440 engine.

that summit cam listed said with a "with sacrifice of some low end for a gain in the mid to upper rpm." not with a low comp engine. that makes a dog under 3000 rpm.

IIRC, is comp cams the one with the most lobe failures at break in in the last few yrs?




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Re: Low compression big block [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1472505
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Right. The correct terminology is a 110° lobe separation angle, with a recommended installed intake centerline of 106°.

The OP was correct in "...intake centerline of 106...". But of course, as someone else pointed out, install it where you want.

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Re: Low compression big block [Re: scratchnfotraction] #1472506
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Quote:

not sure about cam specs lingo but should'nt it read as...

110* lobe seperation angle with a 106* intake center line for a 4* advance?

this is what a hughes whiplash cam is for, low comp stock engines.

early intake close to build cyl pressure and not bleed off lowend torque.

I have 2 SB whiplash roller cams in stock 318s and 1 BB whiplash cam going in my 77 lopo 440 engine.

that summit cam listed said with a "with sacrifice of some low end for a gain in the mid to upper rpm." not with a low comp engine. that makes a dog under 3000 rpm.

IIRC, is comp cams the one with the most lobe failures at break in in the last few yrs?








Please tell me more about the Whiplash in the 440. I assume that the '77 440 has a really low compression ratio just like a '75 model. Did you have to change springs and use the Hughes lifters? Do you have the cam part number? What is the rest of your setup and how does it perform?


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Re: Low compression big block [Re: rbstroker] #1472507
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