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273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory?-updated! #1472148 07/22/13 12:51 PM 07/22/13 12:51 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,978 Moncton, New Brunswick hemidart1 OP top fuel
hemidart1 OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,978 Moncton, New Brunswick	A few years back at the BJ auction, I saw a Plymouth B body with what was claimed to be a 273 Commando from the factory. Could this have been true? Could they have slipped a few in the b body? thanks Last edited by hemidart1; 07/22/13 10:37 PM. 1967 Hemi GTX 1969 Chrysler 300

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory? [Re: hemidart1] #1472149 07/22/13 01:06 PM 07/22/13 01:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,575 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy Rhinodart Rhinotruck
Rhinodart Rhinotruck Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,575 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy	Never say never with Chrysler, but in a word, NO! The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it. JB Rhinehart, Realist A-Body's RULE!

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory? [Re: Rhinodart] #1472150 07/22/13 01:16 PM 07/22/13 01:16 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,978 Moncton, New Brunswick hemidart1 OP top fuel
hemidart1 OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,978 Moncton, New Brunswick	But remember-the car was at BJ so it must have been real....... Last edited by hemidart1; 07/22/13 01:17 PM. 1967 Hemi GTX 1969 Chrysler 300

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory? [Re: hemidart1] #1472151 07/22/13 03:46 PM 07/22/13 03:46 PM
Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 870 Keizer, Oregon U.S.A. E elmor353 super stock
elmor353 super stock E Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 870 Keizer, Oregon U.S.A.	Not sure if they used the Commando version in B-bodies, but I do know they put 273's in them. I had a 65 Coronet with one from the factory.

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory? [Re: elmor353] #1472152 07/22/13 10:22 PM 07/22/13 10:22 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,731 North Dakota 6PakBee I Live Here
6PakBee I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,731 North Dakota	Pretty common. I have a 273 in a '67 Belvedere, three-speed. The two barrel version, of course. "We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory? [Re: 6PakBee] #1472153 07/22/13 10:37 PM 07/22/13 10:37 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,978 Moncton, New Brunswick hemidart1 OP top fuel
hemidart1 OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,978 Moncton, New Brunswick	here is the car in question.... http://www.barrett-jackson.com/application/onlinesubmission/lotdetails.aspx?ln=989&aid=48 1967 Hemi GTX 1969 Chrysler 300

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory? [Re: hemidart1] #1472154 07/22/13 10:44 PM 07/22/13 10:44 PM
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Bumbalawski enthusiast Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 318 Beans Cove Pa	If I recall correctly, in an 1967 A-body, the "D" code was a 273 2bbl. and the "E" code was a 273 HP 4 bbl. The 1967 B body BJ car in question is a "D" code.

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory? [Re: Bumbalawski] #1472155 07/22/13 11:07 PM 07/22/13 11:07 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,978 Moncton, New Brunswick hemidart1 OP top fuel
hemidart1 OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,978 Moncton, New Brunswick	I remember looking over the car and being surprised at the Commando engine. The description said it was a rare special factory order. I wish I had a pic of it. 1967 Hemi GTX 1969 Chrysler 300

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory? [Re: hemidart1] #1472156 07/23/13 06:25 AM 07/23/13 06:25 AM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan I Live Here
gdonovan I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Quote: I remember looking over the car and being surprised at the Commando engine. The description said it was a rare special factory order. I wish I had a pic of it. I have owned several Darts and Barracudas with factory 273-4 bbl engines, never have I seen a b-body with one. Doesn't make much sense to build one that way when you have a huge engine bay and a big car to drop a cheap 383 in. Possible of course but the VIN does indicate a 2bbl.

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory? [Re: gdonovan] #1472157 07/23/13 11:34 AM 07/23/13 11:34 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA	No way. Not with the "D" in the VIN and no documentation to back it up...

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory? [Re: Jim_Lusk] #1472158 07/23/13 11:59 AM 07/23/13 11:59 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,575 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy Rhinodart Rhinotruck
Rhinodart Rhinotruck Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 43,575 Round Lake Beach, Illinoisy	Quote: No way. Not with the "D" in the VIN and no documentation to back it up... What was the code for "Special Order V8" in 1967. It was "M" in 1968, so I would say if it is a real 273 Commando then it would have that code. The funny thing about science is that if you change one miniscule parameter you change the entire outcome to the way you want it. JB Rhinehart, Realist A-Body's RULE!

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory?-updated! [Re: hemidart1] #1472159 07/23/13 01:04 PM 07/23/13 01:04 PM
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moparsquid super stock Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,107 Spring Valley ,Ca.	I have had several 2 and 4 barrel 273 1 in a 67 bel and a freind had a 2bbl 68 bel also but mostley in the barracudas 4bbl

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory?-updated! [Re: moparsquid] #1472160 07/23/13 01:17 PM 07/23/13 01:17 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,978 Moncton, New Brunswick hemidart1 OP top fuel
hemidart1 OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,978 Moncton, New Brunswick	they're everywhere http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfbClcg5Yo http://gatewayclassiccars.com/saint-louis/1967/plymouth/belvedere-ii-S4238.html#.Ue6sw5DNiM8 Last edited by hemidart1; 07/23/13 01:18 PM. 1967 Hemi GTX 1969 Chrysler 300

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory?-updated! [Re: hemidart1] #1472161 07/23/13 01:34 PM 07/23/13 01:34 PM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT gdonovan I Live Here
gdonovan I Live Here Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 10,847 Oakdale CT	Quote: they're everywhere http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfbClcg5Yo http://gatewayclassiccars.com/saint-louis/1967/plymouth/belvedere-ii-S4238.html#.Ue6sw5DNiM8 Thanks for the morning chuckle, car at second link has rare 904 four speed transmission. Throwing BS flag.

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory?-updated! [Re: hemidart1] #1472162 07/23/13 01:36 PM 07/23/13 01:36 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Quote: they're everywhere http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfbClcg5Yo http://gatewayclassiccars.com/saint-louis/1967/plymouth/belvedere-ii-S4238.html#.Ue6sw5DNiM8 Kinda hard to tell from the pix, but I believe it has 72-later 340 exhaust manifolds on it. From that and the claim that it has TRW 10:1 pistons and a Torker II intake, I'm thinking that's probably not a 273 - despite the Commando 273 air cleaner - as I don't think there are any off-the-shelf 10:1 pistons available for a 273, and the Torker intake runners would be a serious mismatch with the ports in 273 heads. Of course, the seller also claims it has a 904 4-speed automatic trans, so who knows what the deal really is. Whatever it is, it's not a factory Commando 273. Barring some kind of one-off super special order by someone with more money than sense, I agree with everyone above that says Commando 273's were never put in B bodies.

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory?-updated! #1472163 07/23/13 03:56 PM 07/23/13 03:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,978 Moncton, New Brunswick hemidart1 OP top fuel
hemidart1 OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,978 Moncton, New Brunswick	unlike the X-files....let's leave this case open.... at least until the BJ car surfaces 1967 Hemi GTX 1969 Chrysler 300

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory?-updated! [Re: hemidart1] #1472164 07/23/13 11:03 PM 07/23/13 11:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia	FWIW, I have a B body with a non OEM slightly warmed over 273, It's a lot more lively on the street then I would have ever imagined, and likely because of a not well set-up stock avenger Holley, gets sub par mileage. Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory?-updated! [Re: jcc] #1472165 07/24/13 08:11 AM 07/24/13 08:11 AM
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6PakBee I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 10,731 North Dakota	The B-J listing says it has the build sheet. That should answer it. If it does have some kind of weird engine option, I would think it would be listed on the bottom under 'Remarks'. "We live in a time when intelligent people are being silenced so that stupid people won't be offended".

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory?-updated! [Re: gdonovan] #1472166 07/24/13 09:47 AM 07/24/13 09:47 AM
Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,822 Colorado D denfireguy top fuel
denfireguy top fuel D Joined: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,822 Colorado	Quote: Quote: they're everywhere http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DfbClcg5Yo http://gatewayclassiccars.com/saint-louis/1967/plymouth/belvedere-ii-S4238.html#.Ue6sw5DNiM8 Thanks for the morning chuckle, car at second link has rare 904 four speed transmission. Throwing BS flag. Four speeds: three forward and one reverse.....oh wait, six, forgot neutral and park...... Craig 2014 Ram 1500 Laramie, 73 Cuda Previous mopars: 62 Valiant, 65 Fury III, 68 Fury III, 72 Satellite, 74 Satellite, 89 Acclaim, 98 Caravan, 2003 Durango Only previous Non-Mopar: Schwinn Tornado

Re: 273 Commando in a B body?- from the factory?-updated! [Re: denfireguy] #1472167 03/08/14 06:38 PM 03/08/14 06:38 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,978 Moncton, New Brunswick hemidart1 OP top fuel
hemidart1 OP top fuel Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 1,978 Moncton, New Brunswick	here is mine-coming together nicely 1967 Hemi GTX 1969 Chrysler 300

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