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Help with 68 Dart 2Dr HT roof rail weatherstrip #1468785 07/16/13 01:23 PM 07/16/13 01:23 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,076 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 OP Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 OP Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,076 Benton, IL.	I have a set of Metro RR 4001-B roof rail seals for my Dart. Actually, I have 2 sets just to be sure that one wasn't mis-boxed. I have a number of fitment issues that I hope someone can help me with. But let me start by asking if there is any other source for this weatherstripping? This Metro piece will be a pain to make work, IF I can make it work at all. Any and all help would be appreciated. Thanks! Master, again and still

Re: Help with 68 Dart 2Dr HT roof rail weatherstrip [Re: DaveRS23] #1468786 07/17/13 10:38 AM 07/17/13 10:38 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,076 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 OP Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 OP Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,076 Benton, IL.	Anyone???? Master, again and still

Re: Help with 68 Dart 2Dr HT roof rail weatherstrip [Re: DaveRS23] #1468787 07/17/13 11:25 PM 07/17/13 11:25 PM
Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,592 Mansfield, TEXAS JOES4FORTY pro stock
JOES4FORTY pro stock Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,592 Mansfield, TEXAS	Is that the stick on foam that fits under the drip rail chrome? The GTS Registry! MOPARTS MEMBER IN PRINT 1969 Dart GTS LS23P9B (First day of production car money pit)

Re: Help with 68 Dart 2Dr HT roof rail weatherstrip [Re: JOES4FORTY] #1468788 07/18/13 10:21 AM 07/18/13 10:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,076 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 OP Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 OP Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,076 Benton, IL.	Nope, it is the rubber under the stainless. The window glass actually seals against it. Master, again and still

Re: Help with 68 Dart 2Dr HT roof rail weatherstrip [Re: DaveRS23] #1468789 07/18/13 01:52 PM 07/18/13 01:52 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,757 Gilbertsville, PA 19525 P Pntastar69 master
Pntastar69 master P Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,757 Gilbertsville, PA 19525	Quote: I have a number of fitment issues that I hope someone can help me with.Any and all help would be appreciated. Now that we know its the rubber, what are the issues?

Re: Help with 68 Dart 2Dr HT roof rail weatherstrip [Re: DaveRS23] #1468790 07/18/13 08:13 PM 07/18/13 08:13 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,179 Canada D demon super stock
demon super stock D Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 1,179 Canada	Quote: I have a set of Metro RR 4001-B roof rail seals for my Dart. Actually, I have 2 sets just to be sure that one wasn't mis-boxed. I have a number of fitment issues that I hope someone can help me with. But let me start by asking if there is any other source for this weatherstripping? This Metro piece will be a pain to make work, IF I can make it work at all. Any and all help would be appreciated. Thanks! my advice. Take that repro garbage and throw it in the dumpster. I went around and around with Metro about that junk and how it's not even the same profile as the originals. Their response? We have never had a complaint before..... It does not fit. Use some good orIginals. Last edited by demon; 07/18/13 08:14 PM.

Re: Help with 68 Dart 2Dr HT roof rail weatherstrip [Re: demon] #1468791 07/18/13 08:25 PM 07/18/13 08:25 PM
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mopars_1 master M Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,106 Ridgeland Wi	Same issue with my 71 roadrunner.. Would roll into the channel what so ever. I ended up putting a want ad out for nice originals and actually found some rather quickly. Thats what ill be doing next time. 1971 Plymouth Duster 340 auto 1937 Plymouth PT50 1969 Dodge Dart Swinger 340 4 speed 2013 Ram laramie 2500 hemi 2008 Harley FLSTSB springer

Re: Help with 68 Dart 2Dr HT roof rail weatherstrip [Re: demon] #1468792 07/18/13 09:09 PM 07/18/13 09:09 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,076 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 OP Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 OP Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,076 Benton, IL.	Quote: Quote: I have a set of Metro RR 4001-B roof rail seals for my Dart. Actually, I have 2 sets just to be sure that one wasn't mis-boxed. I have a number of fitment issues that I hope someone can help me with. But let me start by asking if there is any other source for this weatherstripping? This Metro piece will be a pain to make work, IF I can make it work at all. Any and all help would be appreciated. Thanks! my advice. Take that repro garbage and throw it in the dumpster. I went around and around with Metro about that junk and how it's not even the same profile as the originals. Their response? We have never had a complaint before..... It does not fit. Use some good originals. You're right; IT DOES NOT FIT! Not at all. I was hoping that someone else repoped the things, but fully expecting that Metro was the only game in town. My originals are trashed, so I guess I will try to locate some good used ones. Thanks! Master, again and still

Re: Help with 68 Dart 2Dr HT roof rail weatherstrip [Re: DaveRS23] #1468793 07/19/13 08:54 AM 07/19/13 08:54 AM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 245 Western PA O OldMoparMan enthusiast
OldMoparMan enthusiast O Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 245 Western PA	Let me tell you a story. I bought a set for my Dart Sport from a vendor of Metro and when I received them they were totally messed up. One side was molded backwards and the length was wrong. I contacted Metro directly I sent my junk seals to them and after three more trial and error sets were sent to me they got it right. So the end result was 5 sets of seals with only the last one good to use and nearly 9 months of time waiting. It's a good thing the project wasn't being held up by this. Living with ALS help support the search for a cure Thanks http://web.alsa.org/site/TR/Walks/WesternPennsylvania?team_id=347781&pg=team&fr_id=12069

Re: Help with 68 Dart 2Dr HT roof rail weatherstrip [Re: OldMoparMan] #1468794 07/19/13 10:36 AM 07/19/13 10:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,076 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 OP Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 OP Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,076 Benton, IL.	The problems with these weatherstrips does not seem to be a production problem, they just seem to be wrong. Period. Do I understand you to say that they make the right ones for my Dart? Master, again and still

Re: Help with 68 Dart 2Dr HT roof rail weatherstrip [Re: DaveRS23] #1468795 07/19/13 11:18 AM 07/19/13 11:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,757 Gilbertsville, PA 19525 P Pntastar69 master
Pntastar69 master P Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,757 Gilbertsville, PA 19525	Quote: The problems with these weatherstrips does not seem to be a production problem, they just seem to be wrong. Period. Still don't know where the problem(s) lies. Wrong in what sense? Are we supposed to guess?

Re: Help with 68 Dart 2Dr HT roof rail weatherstrip [Re: Pntastar69] #1468796 07/19/13 08:13 PM 07/19/13 08:13 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,076 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 OP Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 OP Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,076 Benton, IL.	I am dealing with Metro directly now, as there does not seem to be an alternative. And everybody that had responded to my post have said the same thing; they just do not fit. So the specifics for the uninitiated seem irrelevant but here goes; The front section from the peak of the vent window down is at least 2" too long. The Metro moulding is at least twice too thick at the top corner of the vent glass. The lip that seals to the glass of both the door and the quarter glass is too long and maybe too thick too. There may be more issues, but I can't get past these to find out. Metro says that they have not heard of any issues with these particular seals. Other posters on here say otherwise. Metro also said that they have other extrusions that they can try to get closer to the dimensions that I need. We'll see. I am going to send them some pics of what is left of my original pieces next to their replacement pieces so we can see if they can get something that fits. Metro said that they have made these for over 20 years and have not had any complaints. The issue must be with the peculiarities of my particular car. I have looked at dozens of these Darts and I haven't seen one yet that could tolerate the extra 2" of length or extra thickness at the top of the vent glass. The Metro weatherstrip just will not fit as supplied. Master, again and still

Re: Help with 68 Dart 2Dr HT roof rail weatherstrip [Re: DaveRS23] #1468797 07/19/13 09:48 PM 07/19/13 09:48 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 245 Western PA O OldMoparMan enthusiast
OldMoparMan enthusiast O Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 245 Western PA	The problem with the ones I received was the same as your having, the first set was molded incorrectly. If I remember correctly the front ends were molded on the same way for both sides and they were way to short. I'm not sure who is running new product development now but I still have the company address and a direct phone line number to that department if you need them shoot me a PM and I'll send them to you. Living with ALS help support the search for a cure Thanks http://web.alsa.org/site/TR/Walks/WesternPennsylvania?team_id=347781&pg=team&fr_id=12069

Re: Help with 68 Dart 2Dr HT roof rail weatherstrip [Re: DaveRS23] #1468798 07/21/13 07:39 PM 07/21/13 07:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,076 Benton, IL. D DaveRS23 OP Special needs idiot
DaveRS23 OP Special needs idiot D Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 12,076 Benton, IL.	This is part of the E-mail I sent to Metro after talking to them. I was surprised at just how different the new ones were. The first photo shows that the A pillar section is too long. It is actually even longer installed than the photos indicate. Also note the differences in the way the end of the seals are made and their thicknesses. The new ones are so thick and long that they actually won't let the door close. This shows the extreme difference in thicknesses between a couple of original strips and the new Metro piece at the top of the vent glass. The new piece is so thick that the vent frame hits it and tries to compress it rather than slide under it like the originals. The top lips here are what the door and quarter glasses seal to. Once again, the difference is huge. The new ones want to hold the glass out at the top, they are so thick and/or long. On the originals, the glass slides under the rubber easily rather than run into it and try to smash it like the new ones. This end shot shows just how different the new seals are from the originals. The old seals still fit and seal the vent frame and glasses pretty well, they were just too rough looking for this project. Master, again and still

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