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Re: My new drag radials and wheels. **Fitment pics added... [Re: SNK-EYZ] #1466908
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I think you will end up with a 1/4" spacer on them
after you have the dana shortened... 1/2" in will
put them close on the inside

Re: My new drag radials and wheels. **Fitment pics added... [Re: SNK-EYZ] #1466909
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I'm sure they way it is now they also rub up at the top of the inner wheel well. If you look the inner protrudes in toward the tire.

I flattened that out with a 2x4 and a small bottle jack working VERY SLOWLY and feeling the outer quarter for any movement. This is where mine used to rub.

The best I can do at the moment is a 275-60-15 on a 15x7 wheel with 4 1/4" BS. An 8" wheel needs 5 1/4" BS. Problem is no one makes a wheel I like with that much BS. So it's 15X7 steel wheel for me...

The Dana will help but like Raff said a 1/2" each side might have been too much.

I'll be interested to see how it fits when done, I'd like to swap in a Dana also and a wheel with less BS would help here too (plus more readily available)

Also curious to see how moving the perches in a 1/4" works...


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Re: My new drag radials and wheels. **Fitment pics added... [Re: Sledge_57] #1466910
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I'm sure they way it is now they also rub up at the top of the inner wheel well. If you look the inner protrudes in toward the tire.

I flattened that out with a 2x4 and a small bottle jack working VERY SLOWLY and feeling the outer quarter for any movement. This is where mine used to rub.

The best I can do at the moment is a 275-60-15 on a 15x7 wheel with 4 1/4" BS. An 8" wheel needs 5 1/4" BS. Problem is no one makes a wheel I like with that much BS. So it's 15X7 steel wheel for me...

The Dana will help but like Raff said a 1/2" each side might have been too much.

I'll be interested to see how it fits when done, I'd like to swap in a Dana also and a wheel with less BS would help here too (plus more readily available)

Also curious to see how moving the perches in a 1/4" works...




The way it is right now, the springs are lined up exactly with the inner lip of the wheel tub.
There's a little over 3/4" from the tire to there now.
It'll be close with the narrowed rear.
I'll roll over the lip on the inside of the wheel tub too.

These are really only for the track, I'm not planning on any real street cruising on them.

As far as wheels with 5.25 & 5.5 rear spacing, American Racing does some cheaper aluminum wheels with that spacing.
They're designed for later model Jeeps. (1990's on).

Here's a set of 2 for $200 delivered from Summit.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/American-Racing-...bc8&vxp=mtr


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Re: My new drag radials and wheels. **Fitment pics added... [Re: SNK-EYZ] #1466911
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I have the same dilemma. Bought 15x8 with 4.5" backspace. Mounted 255/70's but it's tight, I can just get my fingers in. Haven't driven yet but will probably go to a 235/70. I didn't move the springs inboard for the same reason, tailpipes. Should be fun with a 511" wedge and street tires.

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Re: My new drag radials and wheels. **Fitment pics added... [Re: gregsrt] #1466912
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BTW good choice in wheels.

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Re: My new drag radials and wheels. **Fitment pics added... [Re: gregsrt] #1466913
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Well, I'm glad I bought 255's. They're in there alright, but that don't fit.


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Re: My new drag radials and wheels. **Fitment pics added... [Re: StealthWedge67] #1466914
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is the 65 B-body 8 3/4 any narrower than the 66-67up? I have a 68 8 3/4 in my 66 and its tight.....not a lot of room..i think the 65 B body has a larger opening in the wheel well area.

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66 B-body

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seems to me the 65 has a larger opening than the 66

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Re: My new drag radials and wheels. **Fitment pics added... [Re: StealthWedge67] #1466918
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Well, I'm glad I bought 255's. They're in there alright, but that don't fit.





The wheel width is the issue with a 275/60r15.
They fit and clear fine on a 7 inch wheel with 4.25 backspacing.

If they were street tires I'd run the 275's on 7 inch wheel, but as has been commented the Pro drag radials are even wider.
On them it squeezed the sidewalls inn too much for me.

My current street tires are 255/60r15's (redlines).
When I get replacements for them I'm going to go to the 275/60r15 redlines and they'll be run on the 7 inch wheels.
At the rate I've been smoking them off it will be this winter or sooner.


The shape of the wheelwell on a 66/67 B-Body (except Charger) is what creates the clearance problems.
The Charger wheel well opening is cut higher, more of the tire is exposed.

From the pics posted 65's are cut higher too.
The rear end width is the same from 65 to 67 on B-Bodies.


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275 60 drag radials will fit a 7" wide rim and perform well. Not too much bulge and a decent contact patch. And I believe 65 rear ends are a little narrower than 66-67s. I will have to measure, I have a 65 housing in the garage.

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275 60 drag radials will fit a 7" wide rim and perform well. Not too much bulge and a decent contact patch. And I believe 65 rear ends are a little narrower than 66-67s. I will have to measure, I have a 65 housing in the garage.




Actually, the 66-67 b-body rearends are the narrowest, flange to flange, by a 1/4". 65- 54 1/2", 66-67 - 54 1/4"

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I have the same dilemma. Bought 15x8 with 4.5" backspace. Mounted 255/70's but it's tight, I can just get my fingers in. Haven't driven yet but will probably go to a 235/70. I didn't move the springs inboard for the same reason, tailpipes. Should be fun with a 511" wedge and street tires.




Whose wheels are these?

I see Rocket makes a wheel similar to the Torque Thrust D's but I'd really like to see them on a car before I buy.

They have 15 in. x 7 in., 5 x 4.50 in. Bolt Circle, 4.25 in. Backspace

Should be perfect, just not sure I like the color or centers, (love TTD's)



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I'm getting ready to buy rims and tires for my 67 Satellite and was planning to get 8" rims with 4.5 back space and these tires Mickey Thompson Sportsman SR 28 x10 - 15
Do You think they will fit or should I try to get a custom back space of 4.75?

Sorry to hijack

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I'm getting ready to buy rims and tires for my 67 Satellite and was planning to get 8" rims with 4.5 back space and these tires Mickey Thompson Sportsman SR 28 x10 - 15
Do You think they will fit or should I try to get a custom back space of 4.75?

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It's not a hijack, it's a discussion on what fits a 67 so it's all good.

Honestly I don't see them fitting with the 8 inch wide wheels with the 4.5 inch backspacing.
If you roll the fender lips maybe, but it's still gonna be close.

I think it'll need more than even 4.75 backspacing to clear, more like 5 inch.

From looking at the specs, yours would be a little narrower which would help the fit.

Sportsman S/R
6640
28X10.00R15LT
section width 10.3
tread width 8.7
diameter 28

ET Street Radial Pro
3754X
P275/60R15
section width 11.4
tread width 9.8
diameter 28.2

I have the dana 60 (which is 1 inch narrower) bolted in the car now but I haven't install the axles yet (they just arrived).

Once I have them in I'll do another trial fitment and post pics.

If everything clears okay with that setup it will essentially be the same as a stock width rear axle with 5 inch rear spacing wheels.
As I said before, mine are 8 inch with 4.5 rear spacing but the dana is one inch narrower).

Hopefully I'll know Monday, tomorrow is already planned out for a birthday party.


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I'm getting ready to buy rims and tires for my 67 Satellite and was planning to get 8" rims with 4.5 back space and these tires Mickey Thompson Sportsman SR 28 x10 - 15
Do You think they will fit or should I try to get a custom back space of 4.75?

Sorry to hijack




It's not a hijack, it's a discussion on what fits a 67 so it's all good.

Honestly I don't see them fitting with the 8 inch wide wheels with the 4.5 inch backspacing.
If you roll the fender lips maybe, but it's still gonna be close.

I think it'll need more than even 4.75 backspacing to clear, more like 5 inch.

From looking at the specs, yours would be a little narrower which would help the fit.

Sportsman S/R
6640
28X10.00R15LT
section width 10.3
tread width 8.7
diameter 28

ET Street Radial Pro
3754X
P275/60R15
section width 11.4
tread width 9.8
diameter 28.2

I have the dana 60 (which is 1 inch narrower) bolted in the car now but I haven't install the axles yet (they just arrived).

Once I have them in I'll do another trial fitment and post pics.

If everything clears okay with that setup it will essentially be the same as a stock width rear axle with 5 inch rear spacing wheels.
As I said before, mine are 8 inch with 4.5 rear spacing but the dana is one inch narrower).

Hopefully I'll know Monday, tomorrow is already planned out for a birthday party.




Thanks for taking such detailed pictures, it really helps. Like you I would like to cram as big a tire as possible without cutting original sheet metal so I'm looking forward to seeing how the extra 1/2 inch works out.

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Brand:Mickey Thompson
Manufacturer's Part Number:6640
Part Type:Tires
Product Line:Mickey Thompson Sportsman S/R Tires
Summit Racing Part Number:MTT-6640

UPC:787025066401
Tire Size:28 x 10.00-15
Wheel Diameter:15 in.
Sidewall Style:Blackwall
Tire Construction:Radial
Tire Diameter:28.00 in.
Section Width:10.30 in.
Tread Width:8.70 in.
Minimum Recommended Wheel Width:7.00 in.
Maximum Recommended Wheel Width:8.50 in.
Directional:Yes
Speed Rating:H
Asymmetrical Tread Pattern:No
Tread Depth:8/32 in.
DOT-Approved:Yes
Tube Required:No
Max Load Single (lbs):1,335 lbs.
Quantity:Sold individually.
i do not think this tire will fit a stock 67 wheel well regardless of the offset of the rim...

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Brand:Mickey Thompson
Manufacturer's Part Number:6640
Part Type:Tires
Product Line:Mickey Thompson Sportsman S/R Tires
Summit Racing Part Number:MTT-6640

UPC:787025066401
Tire Size:28 x 10.00-15
Wheel Diameter:15 in.
Sidewall Style:Blackwall
Tire Construction:Radial
Tire Diameter:28.00 in.
Section Width:10.30 in.
Tread Width:8.70 in.
Minimum Recommended Wheel Width:7.00 in.
Maximum Recommended Wheel Width:8.50 in.
Directional:Yes
Speed Rating:H
Asymmetrical Tread Pattern:No
Tread Depth:8/32 in.
DOT-Approved:Yes
Tube Required:No
Max Load Single (lbs):1,335 lbs.
Quantity:Sold individually.
i do not think this tire will fit a stock 67 wheel well regardless of the offset of the rim...




They will fit if the wheel size and backspace is right. 15x7" with 4 1/4 bs and an 15x8 with 5 1/4" bs fits these tires and they're fatter than those Sportsman SR's

MT Et Street Drag Radial 275-60-15
Brand: Mickey Thompson
Manufacturer's Part Number: 3754R
Part Type: Tires
Product Line: Mickey Thompson ET Street Radial Tires
Summit Racing Part Number: MTT-3754R

UPC: 029142619185
Tire Size: 275/60-15
Wheel Diameter: 15 in.
Sidewall Style: Blackwall
Tire Construction: Radial
Tire Diameter: 28.00 in.
Section Width: 11.00 in.
Tread Width: 9.50 in.
Minimum Recommended Wheel Width: 7.50 in.
Maximum Recommended Wheel Width: 9.50 in.
Directional: Yes
Asymmetrical Tread Pattern: No
DOT-Approved: Yes
Tube Required: No
Tire Compound: R2
Quantity: Sold individually.


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This man speaks the truth. I have M&H 275/60 drag radials on my 67 with no body mods, but SS springs I do have. A 15x7 rim with 4.25 BS. Tight, but it fits.

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