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Re: 727 explosion [Re: Leon441] #1466520 07/11/13 07:18 PM 07/11/13 07:18 PM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,925 Fulton County, PA C CMcAllister Mr. Helpful
CMcAllister Mr. Helpful C Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 12,925 Fulton County, PA	Quote: Turbo 400's blow up to. The difference Chevy people listen to each other and will not dare run with without the safety provisions on their 400's. Why in the world would anyone run a stock drum in a 727 is beyond me. Then if you did and it blew up I personally would count my blessings and not say a peep. Kind of like if I got wild and crazy drunk one night and decided to drive the race car down the road naked and it caught fire and burnt up my privates. Would not tell anyone. If you bought the stuff and was told it had a billet drum when it in fact did not. Sorry for your loss. Leon So will T350s. Saw a fellow in a blown alcohol Camaro kill one. Tiny pieces and oil everywhere. He went for an amberlamps ride. If the results don't match the theory, change the theory.

Re: 727 explosion [Re: CMcAllister] #1466521 07/11/13 07:42 PM 07/11/13 07:42 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,279 PA. pittsburghracer "Little"John
pittsburghracer "Little"John Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 20,279 PA.	A good Friend od mine destroyed a clutch flight at Norwalk in a front engine high 8 second dragster. The case spun between his legs and luckily one of the tranny lugs bent the chrome moly cage but stopped it from spinning. A piece of the case hit a guy in the stands in the head. another guy passed out when he saw the blood and fell in the stands. When the trannt blew it ripped 3 morse cables going to the engine like they were toilet paper. The tranny blanket looked like ground up fiberglass. Very scary day. 1970 Duster Edelbrock headed 408 5.984@112.52 422 Indy headed small block 5.982@112.56 mph 9.38@138.67 Livin and lovin life one day at a time

Re: 727 explosion [Re: Plymouth340] #1466522 07/11/13 07:48 PM 07/11/13 07:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio S Sport440 master
Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Quote: Quote: You pedaled it while still in low gear.. right... glad your ok NO...broke just as I left the line..foot to floor Did the engine free rev just before it blew? Was there any indication or something seeming not right just before the boom?

Re: 727 explosion [Re: CMcAllister] #1466523 07/11/13 07:50 PM 07/11/13 07:50 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,198 CT GTX MATT master
GTX MATT master Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 5,198 CT	Quote: Quote: Turbo 400's blow up to. The difference Chevy people listen to each other and will not dare run with without the safety provisions on their 400's. Why in the world would anyone run a stock drum in a 727 is beyond me. Then if you did and it blew up I personally would count my blessings and not say a peep. Kind of like if I got wild and crazy drunk one night and decided to drive the race car down the road naked and it caught fire and burnt up my privates. Would not tell anyone. If you bought the stuff and was told it had a billet drum when it in fact did not. Sorry for your loss. Leon So will T350s. Saw a fellow in a blown alcohol Camaro kill one. Tiny pieces and oil everywhere. He went for an amberlamps ride. Out of curiosity, what blows/causes the explosion on the TH350 and TH400? Now I need to pin those needles, got to feel that heat Hear my motor screamin while I'm tearin up the street

Re: 727 explosion [Re: emarine01] #1466524 07/11/13 07:56 PM 07/11/13 07:56 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 916 MB,CAN PC-CHARGER super stock
PC-CHARGER super stock Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 916 MB,CAN	Here's an explanation of a Torqueflite drum explosion. https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1

Re: 727 explosion [Re: Sport440] #1466525 07/11/13 08:00 PM 07/11/13 08:00 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 501 CEDAR RAPIDS Plymouth340 OP mopar
Plymouth340 OP mopar Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 501 CEDAR RAPIDS	Quote: Quote: Quote: You pedaled it while still in low gear.. right... glad your ok NO...broke just as I left the line..foot to floor Did the engine free rev just before it blew? Was there any indication or something seeming not right just before the boom? Nope. made one pass and all was good.second pass car went about two feet and boom !!!

Re: 727 explosion [Re: Plymouth340] #1466526 07/11/13 08:14 PM 07/11/13 08:14 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: You pedaled it while still in low gear.. right... glad your ok NO...broke just as I left the line..foot to floor Did the engine free rev just before it blew? Was there any indication or something seeming not right just before the boom? Nope. made one pass and all was good.second pass car went about two feet and boom !!! Out of curiosity do you back up after your burn out.. you need 4 or 5 feet to set the sprag minimum(going forward)... to be honest I'm not sure if you have to do the same thing after being in neutral but I always give it 5' or more

Re: 727 explosion [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1466527 07/11/13 08:20 PM 07/11/13 08:20 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 501 CEDAR RAPIDS Plymouth340 OP mopar
Plymouth340 OP mopar Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 501 CEDAR RAPIDS	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: You pedaled it while still in low gear.. right... glad your ok NO...broke just as I left the line..foot to floor Did the engine free rev just before it blew? Was there any indication or something seeming not right just before the boom? Nope. made one pass and all was good.second pass car went about two feet and boom !!! Out of curiosity do you back up after your burn out.. you need 4 or 5 feet to set the sprag minimum(going forward)... to be honest I'm not sure if you have to do the same thing after being in neutral but I always give it 5' or more did not backup..did the burn out and everything the same like I have for 25 years of using a trans brake

Re: 727 explosion [Re: Plymouth340] #1466528 07/11/13 08:40 PM 07/11/13 08:40 PM
Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,267 aZLiViN J J_BODY I Live Here
J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,267 aZLiViN	Check your rear gears. When my buddies went right after launch we found teeth gone from the ring gear. That's what lit the fuse in our case.

Re: 727 explosion [Re: J_BODY] #1466529 07/12/13 02:34 AM 07/12/13 02:34 AM
Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio dartman366 I Live Here
dartman366 I Live Here Joined: Jan 2004 Posts: 13,247 Mt. Vernon, Ohio	Quote: Check your rear gears. When my buddies went right after launch we found teeth gone from the ring gear. That's what lit the fuse in our case. Just redid a 904 for a friend that had this exact same thing happen, rolled the sprag,broke the case and cleaned the splines out of the planitary,,but did not explode the drum. so yes check the rear end. Light travels faster than the speed of sound,,,this is why some people seem bright untill you hear them speak.

Re: 727 explosion [Re: dartman366] #1466530 07/12/13 07:03 AM 07/12/13 07:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 926 MICHIGAN B BB65Barracuda super stock
BB65Barracuda super stock B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 926 MICHIGAN	The Guy I bought my 70 RR from Had his wife racing the car at the local track and grenaded the trans at the line. He did not have the shield on the trans and when it went the ambulance took her away. I had to replace the trans tunnel and a portion of the drivers floor. Very scary business to say the least. The moral is don't race without the correct safety equipment in place. 1957 Power wagon wm300 original 10.000 mile truck, 1964 dodge Polara Convertible numbers matching

Re: 727 explosion [Re: Leon441] #1466531 07/12/13 10:46 AM 07/12/13 10:46 AM
Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio d7cook enthusiast
d7cook enthusiast Joined: Aug 2006 Posts: 290 Cincinnati, Ohio	Quote: Turbo 400's blow up to. The difference Chevy people listen to each other and will not dare run with without the safety provisions on their 400's. Not really. TH400's came with two different sprags. The HD one is twice as strong as the other but if either one fails the trans loses 2nd gear. The direct drum does explode in TH400's but that's from either shifting into neutral at the finish or shifting into 2nd with a manual valve body. If you leave it in third and coast/brake down it's fine. I ran mid 10's for a year with a TH400 out of a junkyard with nothing but a new filter. They are tough trans. When left fully automatic they are very easy to tweak the shift points with wights and springs behind an access plate. They are heavy, soak up HP but they are tough. I bought an adapter bellhousing to start running them over 727's. Cheap cores, cheap parts. 1967 Coronet, 1989 Daytona tube chassis. Former cars, 66 Charger, 67 R/T, 69 Coronet, 67 Dart GT. -Banned for life from V8Buick.com-

Re: 727 explosion [Re: d7cook] #1466532 07/12/13 12:04 PM 07/12/13 12:04 PM
Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058 bigfork mn D dragram440 super stock
dragram440 super stock D Joined: Mar 2009 Posts: 1,058 bigfork mn	Is a 727 with a trans brake have more of a chance blowing the drum apart? I just foot brakeit but was thinking of going with a brake. I have a stock drum in my car and always worry about it but havent had any issues in the last 4 years. I also worry about the 8 3/4 but now that I have around 100 passes on it and it still looks like new I am starting to think its good to go. My car only weighs 3800 lbs and only 60' in the high 1.4's. I am very carefull to do 2nd gear burnouts only and it never spins and if it does I will be shifting not pedalling it. Last edited by dragram440; 07/12/13 12:06 PM. 67' charger 499 RB 10.57 at 127

Re: 727 explosion [Re: Sport440] #1466533 07/12/13 12:14 PM 07/12/13 12:14 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,346 Rio Linda, CA John_Kunkel The Erection Connection
John_Kunkel The Erection Connection Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,346 Rio Linda, CA	Quote: Did the engine free rev just before it blew? Was there any indication or something seeming not right just before the boom? With high-stall converters the brief flareup in rpm often isn't noticed by the driver. I've known some veteran drivers who, even when they sensed the flareup, couldn't get out of the throttle quick enough to save the trans. The INTERNET, the MISinformation superhighway

Re: 727 explosion [Re: Sport440] #1466534 07/12/13 12:45 PM 07/12/13 12:45 PM
Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 501 CEDAR RAPIDS Plymouth340 OP mopar
Plymouth340 OP mopar Joined: Feb 2006 Posts: 501 CEDAR RAPIDS	Quote: Quote: Quote: You pedaled it while still in low gear.. right... glad your ok NO...broke just as I left the line..foot to floor Did the engine free rev just before it blew? Was there any indication or something seeming not right just before the boom? I think it might have free rev just before it blew. it all happen so fast

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