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Dumb flex plate question #1464012
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Hey guys,

Going to mate the engine and trans together soon. Its a 360 and 727 and if I remember correctly you bolt the flex plate to the engine side before mating them and not to the torque converter right? Torque specs for bolting everything together?

Thanks in advance,
Brian

Re: Dumb flex plate question [Re: RAUPLEMINZE454] #1464013
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bolt the flexplate to back of the crank...

55 ft lbs for the crank to flexplate bolts...use locite..


drop the converter into the trans...make sure it is completely on...the hub engages the pump inside the trans...

bolt the trans to the back of the engine..


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Re: Dumb flex plate question [Re: 70AARcuda] #1464014
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drop the converter into the trans...make sure it is completely on...the hub engages the pump inside the trans...

bolt the trans to the back of the engine..


this means pushed ALL the way back into the the tranny. turn the converter slowly until you feel it grab then push it back fully. it'll slide back a good inch or so.

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Thank you much guys, that is what i figured but just wanted to check. Same torque specs for ARP hardware correct?

Re: Dumb flex plate question [Re: RAUPLEMINZE454] #1464016
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yes and loctite....
not sure about small block but but on big block mark your holes when you trial fit. so annoying on your back in the driveway if you don't.

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Re: Dumb flex plate question [Re: mikemee1331] #1464017
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this is what he means ..lay the flexplate on the converter...get all four bolts lined up as one is offsetted.

Paint one corner of the flexplate and converter...that will make it easier to get it lined up once the engine and trans are connected.

7768810-IMG_0800.JPG (31 downloads)

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Re: Dumb flex plate question [Re: 70AARcuda] #1464018
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if you bolted the flex plate to the torque converter first, how you be able to then bolt it to the crank ??


I am truckless..
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this is what he means ..lay the flexplate on the converter...get all four bolts lined up as one is offsetted.

Paint one corner of the flexplate and converter...that will make it easier to get it lined up once the engine and trans are connected.




I'm guessing the statement in bold implies that they ARE NOT together at some later time... just saying.

Must be the water.

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this is what he means ..lay the flexplate on the converter...get all four bolts lined up as one is offsetted.

Paint one corner of the flexplate and converter...that will make it easier to get it lined up once the engine and trans are connected.


yep, thats what i meant!

Re: Dumb flex plate question [Re: 340SHORTY] #1464021
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if you bolted the flex plate to the torque converter first, how you be able to then bolt it to the crank ??




obvious you have not put too many trans and engines together..

since once they are together you can not tell where the offset lug is....by painting them ahead of time as shown in the picture...you can easily match them up..

as i stated earlier the flexplate bolts to the crank...then the converter goes to the transmission..then they are connected..

you should down load the picture and use it for future reference....since ydks

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Re: Dumb flex plate question [Re: 70AARcuda] #1464022
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if you bolted the flex plate to the torque converter first, how you be able to then bolt it to the crank ??




obvious you have not put too many trans and engines together..

since once they are together you can not tell where the offset lug is....by painting them ahead of time as shown in the picture...you can easily match them up..

as i stated earlier the flexplate bolts to the crank...then the converter goes to the transmission..then they are connected..

you should down load the picture and use it for future reference....since ydks




Get your facts before you slam somebody. You dont know me or my history. I see we are very close in age and I d bet our mechanical experience is close.


I am truckless..
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if you would have read the previous post...like maybe the 2nd post..where I stated..the flexplate bolts to the crank and put the converter in the trans...you would not make your stupid comment about how do you put the flexplate on with the converter attached...dah...

I posted that picture just to show about matching up the flexplate and converter prior to install so that they can easily be matched up once installed...

Now i see why people post less and less....and your right I dont care to know you or your history..justing trying to get the correct info to guy who posted the question...


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Re: Dumb flex plate question [Re: 70AARcuda] #1464024
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here is another picture...take a few minutes after the flexplate and converter were unbolted off the work bench...

i stand the 904 on it end ..let gravity help drop the converter in to the hub...and make sure the converter is engaged in the pump ..by moving it back n forth and listen to the hub hit the pump ears..clak..clak noise...

hey...look..one of the bolt lugs has paint on it...I wonder why...oh...it can be matched up with the flexplate once the engine and trans is bolted tonight...duh...

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Re: Dumb flex plate question [Re: 70AARcuda] #1464025
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for what it is worth the plate will only match up to the crank one way too.

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for what it is worth the plate will only match up to the crank one way too.






if you look at a stock flex plate it has a small hole drilled in it.

if you look at the face of a stock TC it has a ovel/round/circle stamped into it.

under the car you line those 2 spots up and it alines the flex/TC the correct way the first time.

but I use the paint to make it ez/fast for me when I do them anymore now days.

my TC in the 85 truck has a different color on each bolt..yes, it has been apart and swaped around that many times that it is color coded depending on what arts are re-used.

lightn up...the OP was the one that mentioned flex plate to TC before trans install..

it just needs to be facing the correct way when going on the crank so you can pull the TC forward a little to bolt it up...flex on backwards will jamb the flex/TC with TC fully seated in trans.

a small c-clamp on the lower edge of bell will help keep TC in place when installing the trans on the floor jack.

Re: Dumb flex plate question [Re: 340SHORTY] #1464027
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if you bolted the flex plate to the torque converter first, how you be able to then bolt it to the crank ??




obvious you have not put too many trans and engines together..

since once they are together you can not tell where the offset lug is....by painting them ahead of time as shown in the picture...you can easily match them up..

as i stated earlier the flexplate bolts to the crank...then the converter goes to the transmission..then they are connected..

you should down load the picture and use it for future reference....since ydks




Get your facts before you slam somebody. You dont know me or my history. I see we are very close in age and I d bet our mechanical experience is close.




settle down beavis ... and butthead .

I think that shorty was directing his ... how would you bolt it on comment at the original question and not at the showing the person a quick and easy way to line things up when they are under the car ???

Is it winter already ??


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if you bolted the flex plate to the torque converter first, how you be able to then bolt it to the crank ??




obvious you have not put too many trans and engines together..

since once they are together you can not tell where the offset lug is....by painting them ahead of time as shown in the picture...you can easily match them up..

as i stated earlier the flexplate bolts to the crank...then the converter goes to the transmission..then they are connected..

you should down load the picture and use it for future reference....since ydks




Get your facts before you slam somebody. You dont know me or my history. I see we are very close in age and I d bet our mechanical experience is close.




settle down beavis ... and butthead .

I think that shorty was directing his ... how would you bolt it on comment at the original question and not at the showing the person a quick and easy way to line things up when they are under the car ???

Is it winter already ??




sorry, i think i started that firestorm by not explaining myself fully

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I mark the torque converter and flexplate of the transmission coming out and then use a spare flexplate to match the mark to the one going in. I figured out there is only one way it bolts up the hard way.

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