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Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: B3422W5] #1452199
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I actually did (there's clips on YouTube under Wizerulz) do a few 2nd gear launches and it went 1.71 60', 11.44 @ 116.69. Had a screwed up ratchet shifter in the car (was welded in when I got it) and the 2md gear starts were unintentional I assure you!!

A 1.7 60' to a 1.5 60' is somewhere about 3 mph if I remember right (simple to calculate) . A typical 10.90 car will run somewhere between a 1.49 and 1.55 at ~2950 pounds and right around/just over 120mph.

Now, I got a fresh trans, fresh shifter and the attempted somersault was the FIRST pass in first gear for this new converter. I lifted at 25-30' it came down, bounced an I got back on it and it did 1.79....give me the benefit of the doubt that IF it hiked them about 10-12" that 60' would have been a good bit quicker.

My 0-30 foot time was a best ever but they forgot to put a cone there



It's there, just gotta find it...since I got less free time than most of y'all it's taking me longer to get to sorting it...that's my story and I'm stick in' to it.

And the people in the stands don't seem to mind a bit!

Last edited by Streetwize; 06/16/13 06:19 PM.

WIZE

World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI

In Car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0
Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: Streetwize] #1452200
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@ fullmetaljacket,

It's a 9 1/2 Lupo/Dynamic freshened up by Lenny at U.C.C, bought it about 2 months ago off the Moparts swap meet. Works really nice (obviously), lol!


WIZE

World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI

In Car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0
Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: Streetwize] #1452201
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That is one of those vehicles that no matter what the clocks says, its always a fun time. I need something like it.

Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: Streetwize] #1452202
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Tough crowd....






No Kidding.....but you're having fun and that's all that matters

Got to be a fun ride.....I think if you'd have stayed in it ... would have been even more fun

Rickster

Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: rickstershemi] #1452203
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I think it's cool...


5.53 @ 125 1/8th on the launch control..more left in her!

Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: Streetwize] #1452204
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Bobby's rocky has plenty of power, it's just a matter of getting it to 60' and doing a little more tuning. Why some of you don't realize that is beyond me. Not to mention how hot/humid it was.
He's having an absolute ball w/ the thing and that's all that really matters. If it aint fun, leave it at the house.

sixpackgut...he wants to keep the front end down, not unload the rear tires!


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Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1452205
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Congrats Bob, glad to see you are having fun with it. After all , enjoying it is what it's all about . Best of luck.


Lenny Croteau www.ultimateconverter.com Phone 704-892-6837 Fax 704-892-6880
Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1452206
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Pretty obvious that wheeliebars are definitely needed IF you want the best 60 ft But I bet there is a way to get close without them. This car ought to be a stop light terror, instant weight transfer on the street!
Glad to hear you are having a ball with it!


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Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: ultimatelenny] #1452207
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Thanks Lenny, the converter works Awesomely
BTW...My buddy Nat I think just called you recently about his 401 AMC jeep/Turbo 400 combination

As Chip said it's just a little vexing trying to find the balance of hook and launch technique. Might get them Daurity boys to tweak on it some if they will. I work about 72 hrs/week so my tuning time is at a premium right now. I hope I don't give people give the impression that playing with this thing is all I have to do all week! Heck I'm lucky if I get 2 hours a MONTH to dabble with it.

As for the power, the cam is great but it's a little small lift-wise (Cam motion 261/267@.050 but only .585/570 lift on 107 in at 105, more of an endurance grind but it makes broad torque and it's the one I had . I'll move up to a much more agressive .670" ish lift Bullet with similar @.050s but bigger @.200's once I figure out how to get a bigger header tube on it. Right now the motor has little 1 5/8" A body headers with a 3 1/2" collector spliced in, certainly not ideal but they FIT in the Rocky CHASSIS perfectly. I have a set of TTI 1 7/8 B body's that I can make fit with a little tube rerouting, just can't get around to it any thime soon. The headers probably cost it at least 30hp up top (and even more if I go to bigger cam)but likely add (unneeded) torque below around 3500. But....they FIT. The Rocky also runs a full (quiet) dual 3" exhaust with an H pipe. Tucked away very stealthy-like.

Some guys remember this was originally gonna just be a little high winding 341" (318 based) motor, the 414 "deal" just kinda fell into my lap.

But although it's not ideal, it sure is fun and it will get quicker and faster as soon as I get the combo a bit balanced out.

Last edited by Streetwize; 06/14/13 09:29 AM.

WIZE

World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI

In Car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0
Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: Streetwize] #1452208
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Ya, if it were an A body I'd be going quicker by now cause I know (probably better than many of y'all) how to get a dart/duster down the track




Bla Bla Bla

I wouldn't be to Cocky in that Rocky

Looks like a fun ride for sure, what's the 1/8 mile ET and MPH?
We're just hackin on ya cause its fun

Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: FastmOp] #1452209
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Best so far of 7.31 @ 96.09 ....and that was with a second gear start there's a video of it at Rockingham on the 11.44 pass.

I'm gonna try upping the tire pressure to take out some bite and put a set of stiffer front shocks on it.

A bodies are sooo easy to hook, specially a duster with an aluminum headed small block and a 904. No front overhang and about 4' from the axle centerline in the back. The easiest cars to hook I've found are old mid 60's Chevy Ii wagons but a duster is a close second

Last edited by Streetwize; 06/15/13 02:19 PM.

WIZE

World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI

In Car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0
Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: Streetwize] #1452210
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Looks like fun Wise! I can tell you (since I have been trying to go slow lately) that my car looses about 0.4 in the 1/8 starting in second gear, and about 0.5 in the 1/4. I have done second gear launches a lot lately trying to get my car all the way up to the 12's (along with a long list of other things).

Have fun tuning that little beast.


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Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: FlyFish] #1452211
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Thanks to everybody for the comments.

I just talked to Stephen Daurity and gonna take the Rocky up to his shop to do whatever re routing it will take to get the 1 7/8 TTI's installed (90% certain the drivers will actually fit with a little firewall massaging and the #8 on the pass should be the only real issue). Stephen is also going to advise on the chassis teaks and I'll probably think of a couple other things we can do while it's in their capable hands.

It's funny I went back and look at my rear shocks and I had a
The Ranchos set at 3 Drivers and 5 on the Passenger side, If I had remembered I would have cranked them to ~6D and 8P to stiffen the launch. That might have helped too, but to be honest I did my best guess on the shocks/Tbars to get it to leave/track STRAIGHT, at least in that respect I think I 'done purdy good'

Gonna get a set of adjustable front shocks and try cranking the expansion(unload on acceleration) to it's tightest setting.

The vert feels perfect stall/flash power wise for flat foot launching out of the hole, just gotta calm that front end lift (wayyyy) down.

Last edited by Streetwize; 06/15/13 02:15 PM.

WIZE

World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI

In Car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0
Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: Streetwize] #1452212
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Looking at the tape again (on Apple HDTV on a 60" screen) I'm thinking...I floored it, it rose way up QUICK, I then got ALL the way out of it and then floored it and reflashed again all before the 60' mark....The 1.79 don't seem so bad to me now! Toughest I ever had to work for that slow a time that I can remember. It stayed straight so yeah I'm glad I had the chassis tweaked/preloaded right "enough".

Last edited by Streetwize; 06/16/13 01:07 AM.

WIZE

World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI

In Car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0
Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: Streetwize] #1452213
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That thing is pretty darn cool


Faster, Faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death...

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Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: OUTLAWD] #1452214
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Thanks, yeah it is. It's something all the ladies and kids flock to

Kinda got that underdog thing going, whatever I beat could be potentially embarrassing to them (ex:Z06 Vette) but if I lose, "hey, it's just a Diahatsu!"



Actually it's really a 340 stroker B body (rear came out of a RoadRunner) masquerading as a tiny Japanese Jeep.

Hoping new front shocks and stiffening the rear Rancho's may help, don't want to add ballast but I will if it wil keep it from going into orbit again!!


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World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI

In Car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0
Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: Eric] #1452215
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Bobby; I LIKEY!!! Dave

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Screenshot my buddy calls "Bobby under Glass"

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WIZE

World's Quickest Diahatsu Rocky (??) 414" Stroker Small block Mopar Powered. 10.84 @ 123...and gettin' quicker!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWzLma3YGI

In Car:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjXcf95e6v0
Re: Reckon the new converter works.... [Re: B3422W5] #1452217
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So let me get this straight.

Your running a roller cammed stroker motor in a light vehicle with heads that flow 300+ and its running mid 11's at 117?

Or am I missing something




you got that right

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Just put some wheelie bars on that bad boy and you can be the first wheel standing Rocky on the circuit!

That is going to be fun to watch. Let me know the next time you are going out locally. It would be fun to watch it go down the track in person.

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