Front Spoilers...
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05/19/13 07:44 AM
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So I have been eyeballing some front spoilers used on the smaller Mopars.
The factory (?) style spoilers, I dunno. I can't help but think these are just way too small and narrow to be of much good.
Then there's fellow who made a batch of his own, AAR-type front spoilers. These look very sturdy and durable, but they 'stick' out way too much and too angled to the front imo for to be used on the street. I would think that with dailydriver, if one happens to hit a curb this will really mess up the entire front valance.
All in all, personally, I don't really like the 'look' of these spoilers.
Also, with the 'open' sides of both spoiler-styles, I would think air would just get around them on the sides and maybe even cause even more turbulence.
What does the rest think about this?
Now yesterday, I stumbled on a spoiler-topic on FABO, and a guy showed off his spoiler reproductions from a Volare/Aspen, but mounted on an 70+ A-body this time. I must say I was quite surprised about how well this looked. The spoiler is supposedly a 3-piece unit, and also goes around to the sides up to the front wheelwells.
This spoiler looks low and enclosed enough to be of use, and not high enough so it gets crashed into things on a daily basis.
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Re: Front Spoilers...
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05/19/13 11:41 AM
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Looks good but I'd like to see it with the car on the ground. It would give a better look at ground clearance.
We are brothers and sisters doing time on the planet for better or worse. I'll take the better, if you don't mind. - Stu Harmon
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Re: Front Spoilers...
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05/19/13 07:40 PM
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The FABO-thread mainly contained talk about someone who 'was going to' make/remake a certain spoiler. But the guy (BHA43) who posted the pics and a link to the Asper/Volare-forum, pointed everyone to this topic later on; http://www.aspenandvolare.com/showthread.php?3283-flairs-amp-such(Recreation and pics of the front-spoiler start appearing from page 10.) Unfortunatly no better pics are shown of this late model A-body spoiler on a early '70s Dart.
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Re: Front Spoilers...
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05/19/13 07:43 PM
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Any front spoiler with enough ground clearance to live on the street is primarily cosmetic.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
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Re: Front Spoilers...
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05/19/13 09:03 PM
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I would argue that he "performance" cars you are thinking of have the airdam more for cosmetic reasons, to enhance the image, than practical. While the front of the cars today are cleaner, aerodynamically speaking, than our beloved musclecars, they are still subject to consumer whims and expectations.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
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Re: Front Spoilers...
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05/19/13 10:21 PM
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This pic was taken years ago, the concept was the grille was to be blocked off, and only rad air was to enter center opening, and the spoiler was intended to help make that happen plus any other benefits it furnished. For any on track use I intended to extend spoiler with hard rubber lower edge. It was for street and track use.
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Re: Front Spoilers...
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05/19/13 10:22 PM
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I saw this at the shopping mall a few years back, I bet it is effective on the street, but.....
" All sorts of things can happen when you are open to new Ideas" Inventor of Kevlar
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Re: Front Spoilers...
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05/19/13 10:26 PM
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but ....
Not for long, lol.
I like the idea of your "convertible" spoiler. Might be the best of both worlds.
I have a similar idea for my DD, plus blocking off my grille openings, TBD by coolant temps.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
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Re: Front Spoilers...
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05/19/13 10:28 PM
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I would argue that he "performance" cars you are thinking of have the airdam more for cosmetic reasons, to enhance the image, than practical. While the front of the cars today are cleaner, aerodynamically speaking, than our beloved musclecars, they are still subject to consumer whims and expectations.
You are mistaken in that, the air flow is so carefully controlled that some of them will relentlessly overheat if the front spoiler is missing or broken. Even if the cooling fan is on continuously, there is not enough airflow going through the radiator. Some of the more flamboyant packages are aimed at the boy racer crowd, to be sure.
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Re: Front Spoilers...
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05/20/13 02:01 AM
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Here my little lip spoiler from Randy. It is mostly looks,but I like at least something under the front.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Front Spoilers...
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05/20/13 03:35 AM
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I saw this at the shopping mall a few years back, I bet it is effective on the street, but.....
That aluminum setup is funny!!!
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Re: Front Spoilers...
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05/20/13 09:34 AM
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I saw this at the shopping mall a few years back, I bet it is effective on the street, but.....
That aluminum setup is funny!!!
looks like it's hiding 2 turbos....
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Re: Front Spoilers...
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05/20/13 02:12 PM
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I like function, I like vintage look, I also am concerned with breakage of the front spoiler. On the street, breakage would be my fault... but on the road course tracks I want function to help for whatever it would be worth -- i'm a "competitor" before I'm a show car guy. Now, I do like the factory split T/A Challenger spoiler on my car because I can slide my floor jack under the front to lift the car (slightly lifting the front bumper just ~1/2 inch to clear the current T/A split spoliers)... and then my jack-handle easily clears between the split front spoiler!!! I feel this is important to me for working on my car, whenever needed. With a full-width solid front spoiler (such as the vintage TRANS AM Cuda spoilers (and maybe eventual Challenger) now available your jack-handle won't work. SO.. I've been thinking of how to make a 3-piece full-width front spoiler whereby the center-section would, perhaps, be flippable (hinged?) with a slight overlap (1-2"?) to each side section.. maybe the center section could be ~12" wide so to allow the floor jack to be pushed under and have the handle able to be used.... function, apperance, and user-friendly.
Mopar Mitch
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Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!
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