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What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? #1430770
05/05/13 06:43 PM
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Lets have fun with this hypothetical.
Valve Size, Wedge/Canted, valve layout, original valve angle or none, etc.

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Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: Adrielp] #1430771
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Basically a copy of the latest pro stock head, or at least the best one a guy could get a hold of. There is lots can be done, similar to what was done to the small 302 Ford ,IE the twisted wedge head. Lets face it, the inline layout works to a point, but as most know, there is a definite limit to what an inline head on a 4.500 max bore can do. Maybe a stretched version of the new Apache heads, which would have the capability of flowing a whole lot more air when sized up for the bigger bore. Those new Hemis are so efficient, given the very low amount of timing required to get the job done. Or, if you want to go bananas, something very similar to the Boss 302 four valve heads, large enough to take full advantage of the much larger bore. I am satisfied to put any type of head on a stock type Mopar block and call it a Mopar. If the factory was smart, they would have done some of this already. It is so much cheaper to design and make stuff now days, it ought to pay for the effort.


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Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: gregsdart] #1430772
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Basically a W-9-8 in a BB version. 11-13 degree, flow 390 cfm at .550 lol.


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Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: 72Swinger] #1430773
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Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: Adrielp] #1430774
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What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head?




a block with the necessary bore spacing

Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: jamesc] #1430775
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Since this is Moparts, and I'm in on 1... I'll say it before anyone else does. I DEFINITELY WANT IT TO FLOW 500 CFM, and I want my port location to remain stock so I can re-use my intake and headers, I want my 30 year old Isky ductile rockers, and my Cal-custom valve covers to bolt right on, and I want them to be out of the box perfect and ready to bolt on for 800 bucks a set.
Now, why isn't Brodix, or Dart butsing my door down to build me a set of heads?

And, just to be clear in case my sarcasm overshot the room, any of 3 racecars I currently own would be twisted like a pretzel at 1300HP, so I have no use for such a head if one existed. Carry on!

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Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: MoparBilly] #1430776
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Ummm..It already exists..On a MOPAR block with a MOPAR casting


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Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1430777
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The Big Chiefs make 1400+hp and flow well over 500 cfm with no problem!
Tried to post a picture,but it says they are to BIG!

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Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: MoparBilly] #1430778
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Quote:

Since this is Moparts, and I'm in on 1... I'll say it before anyone else does. I DEFINITELY WANT IT TO FLOW 500 CFM, and I want my port location to remain stock so I can re-use my intake and headers, I want my 30 year old Isky ductile rockers, and my Cal-custom valve covers to bolt right on, and I want them to be out of the box perfect and ready to bolt on for 800 bucks a set.
Now, why isn't Brodix, or Dart butsing my door down to build me a set of heads?

And, just to be clear in case my sarcasm overshot the room, any of 3 racecars I currently own would be twisted like a pretzel at 1300HP, so I have no use for such a head if one existed. Carry on!




I love this post!!!! LOL!!!!

Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: MoparBilly] #1430779
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Quote:

Since this is Moparts, and I'm in on 1... I'll say it before anyone else does. I DEFINITELY WANT IT TO FLOW 500 CFM, and I want my port location to remain stock so I can re-use my intake and headers, I want my 30 year old Isky ductile rockers, and my Cal-custom valve covers to bolt right on, and I want them to be out of the box perfect and ready to bolt on for 800 bucks a set.
Now, why isn't Brodix, or Dart butsing my door down to build me a set of heads?

And, just to be clear in case my sarcasm overshot the room, any of 3 racecars I currently own would be twisted like a pretzel at 1300HP, so I have no use for such a head if one existed. Carry on!




Billy you left out that they must look like a 906 on the outside ...

Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: MoparBilly] #1430780
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Quote:

Since this is Moparts, and I'm in on 1... I'll say it before anyone else does. I DEFINITELY WANT IT TO FLOW 500 CFM, and I want my port location to remain stock so I can re-use my intake and headers, I want my 30 year old Isky ductile rockers, and my Cal-custom valve covers to bolt right on, and I want them to be out of the box perfect and ready to bolt on for 800 bucks a set.
Now, why isn't Brodix, or Dart butsing my door down to build me a set of heads?

And, just to be clear in case my sarcasm overshot the room, any of 3 racecars I currently own would be twisted like a pretzel at 1300HP, so I have no use for such a head if one existed. Carry on!




dont forget that they have to make that power with no more than a 284 purple cam,must be compatible with powerbrakes also

Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: 1Fast340] #1430781
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Gotta be made in China, too.

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Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: 64Post] #1430782
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Gotta be made in China, too.




And aluminum.


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Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: slantzilla] #1430783
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MUST be no-adder and pump gas 93 too.


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Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: MoparBilly] #1430784
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Quote:

Since this is Moparts, and I'm in on 1... I'll say it before anyone else does. I DEFINITELY WANT IT TO FLOW 500 CFM, and I want my port location to remain stock so I can re-use my intake and headers, I want my 30 year old Isky ductile rockers, and my Cal-custom valve covers to bolt right on, and I want them to be out of the box perfect and ready to bolt on for 800 bucks a set.
Now, why isn't Brodix, or Dart butsing my door down to build me a set of heads?

And, just to be clear in case my sarcasm overshot the room, any of 3 racecars I currently own would be twisted like a pretzel at 1300HP, so I have no use for such a head if one existed. Carry on!




As if that would stop you.....

Kevin

Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: MoparBilly] #1430785
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Quote:

Since this is Moparts, and I'm in on 1... I'll say it before anyone else does. I DEFINITELY WANT IT TO FLOW 500 CFM, and I want my port location to remain stock so I can re-use my intake and headers, I want my 30 year old Isky ductile rockers, and my Cal-custom valve covers to bolt right on, and I want them to be out of the box perfect and ready to bolt on for 800 bucks a set.
Now, why isn't Brodix, or Dart butsing my door down to build me a set of heads?

And, just to be clear in case my sarcasm overshot the room, any of 3 racecars I currently own would be twisted like a pretzel at 1300HP, so I have no use for such a head if one existed. Carry on!




Haha.


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Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: 70Dart499] #1430786
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direct fuel injection bosses.. ok, I know that's crazy. I really want a direct injected big block, though


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Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1430787
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The REAL question hereis how many, if any on here woudl actually be a customer for something like this in the first place? IMO THAT is the real issue...


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Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: Al_Alguire] #1430788
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NOT ME. I'm slowly building a .030 over 2.0 engine for my 1995 Neon. Should be done in about 3 more years.


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422 Indy headed small block
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Re: What would you want in a 1300HP capable BBM cyl head? [Re: MRMOPAR622] #1430789
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The Big Chiefs make 1400+hp and flow well over 500 cfm with no problem!
Tried to post a picture,but it says they are to BIG!





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