Re: 2000 neon 2.0 not starting.
[Re: Todd]
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05/04/13 09:49 AM
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Ok, i didn't read your first response completely. Key used was one I just had cut. I assume there is a difference between that and original keys? We have both originals. If that is case I'll try the original. I've never owned a vehicle w/coded key. Doh!!
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Re: 2000 neon 2.0 not starting.
[Re: MachoMan]
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05/04/13 10:39 AM
05/04/13 10:39 AM
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DaveRS23
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Sounds like you found the problem. If you don't care about the security key and want to have more cheap keys you can do this;
Take the lower column cover off and tape or glue the original key close enough to the ignition switch to let the switch read it. Then replace the cover. That way you can use any cheap key you want.
The chip in the key is proximity, so as long as it is close enough for the switch to read it, it will work. I have even used the security key with the end broken off and held it up to the switch while cranking with a cheap replacement key. Once the engine starts and runs long enough for the red light to go off, it doesn't need the chip key close in order to keep running.
In other words, all the car needs is to have the chip key close to the ignition while cranking and until it runs for a few seconds. After that, it does not matter where the sender key is.
IHTH
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Re: 2000 neon 2.0 not starting.
[Re: MachoMan]
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05/06/13 07:43 AM
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Re: 2000 neon 2.0 not starting.
[Re: dOc !]
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05/06/13 10:37 AM
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DaveRS23
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Particular option packages maybe? As a used car dealer, we deal with this all the time on Mopars built since 2000 or so.
In fact, one of the first things we do is to check whether the key is black or gray and make a note of it in the file. And if there is only one key with the car and it is the transponder style (gray), we have a spare regular key (black) cut just for the door locks.
Then we ask the end customer if they want the expensive security key retained or if they want us to secure the key to the switch so they can use the cheaper key.
It is quicker for us to do it than it is to explain to the customer how to do it. In our rural area, nobody wants to deal with a $100 key.
Master, again and still
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Re: 2000 neon 2.0 not starting.
[Re: DaveRS23]
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05/10/13 09:20 AM
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well, the original problem has been solved. It suffers from the dreaded PCV/intake/oil pooling. "Fire" smell was from it burning off exhaust. I guess from it sitting for long periods, it pooled up larger to where it didn't burn off as usual from everyday use. Dealer wanted 1800 to fix but adding a quart of oil between oil changes seems to be make better business sense.
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