brake booster on dart, possible to get too much vaccum
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04/13/13 09:02 PM
04/13/13 09:02 PM
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dirt
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I just got the dart together and put a brake booster from another dart on it. Now the brake pedal does not want to come back up after i use the brakes and it makes the brakes stick. But if i unhook the vaccum line the pedal does come back up, its just stiffer. Is it possible i have to much vaccum and its holding the pedal down? I have it hooked to the back of the holley 4 barrel carb. I have never heard of this problem before. I unbolted the master.cylinder and started motor and the brake pedal returns by itself everytime i push it down, when i turn the motor off and push the pedal down this way it stays down? Now i'm confused. I dont see how the master cylinder could keep the pedal from returning since the rod that pushes on it is not really attached it just pushes.
Any ideas?
Last edited by dirt; 04/13/13 09:59 PM.
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Re: brake booster on dart, possible to get too much vaccum
[Re: dirt]
#1419255
04/13/13 09:54 PM
04/13/13 09:54 PM
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RapidRobert
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Not from too much vacuum. Not sure if too little pushrod clearance could cause your symptoms but check it just to be sure as it might be the cause & it's easy to adjust (want ~.060" clearance) but the prob is either the check valve in the booster or the booster itself
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Re: brake booster on dart, possible to get too much vaccum
[Re: dirt]
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04/13/13 10:27 PM
04/13/13 10:27 PM
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RapidRobert
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I measure the depth of the piston recess in the "thimble" & subtract the amount the round nub protrudes from the booster flange from that dimention but someone posted about having a helper work the pedal & you looking in the M/C & seeing how much travel you have before the compensating port in the floor is closed by the piston cup. Might need clear fluid or to drain most of the fluid then adding clear fluid (have not done it so just thinking out loud). At rest the piston needs to move a hair before it starts building psi but I'd think that'd be more of a caliper drag issue rather than the booster being triggered but to k.i.s.s. I'd check it & I'm assuming the booster worked good on the donor car it was on.
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Re: brake booster on dart, possible to get too much vaccum
[Re: RapidRobert]
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04/14/13 01:25 PM
04/14/13 01:25 PM
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There is a valve in the booster that can stick and cause this. My 66 New Yorker did the same thing. As soon as you touched the brake pedal, the booster would pull the peddle away from your foot and hold the brakes on. Made for some rather ungraceful traffic stops. I put a return spring on the brake peddle that "fixed" the problem until I converted to discs and a dual diaphragm booster. Kevin
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