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E-Body leg room, or lack of... #1416184
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Got the Cuda to the point for the first time where I could actually sit in it with seats, steering wheel and the whole works

Well so my surprise these things really were made for really short people!!! I am 6'3" and I have to sit spread legs in their and try to get the the clutch is a real pain. I can't believe they were designed that pourly, I can bearlly get my leg between the seat and steering where. Worse the getting in the 69 Vette, but that is comfy once you get in.

Any way what are my options. I know the Tuff wheel is a little smaller, but I don't know if that is going to be enough. And it looks like they never came with tilt.


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Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1416185
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Six way seat slightly tilted back...
Or I've known of guys to knock the studs out of the seat track & relocate them to shift the seat rearward... This requires some minor fab work...


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Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1416186
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There are a number of adjustments that you can make; an E-body has lots of room. I'm 6'6", big, and that's one of the reasons that I've stuck with Cudas & Challengers over the years

- make sure that your seat tracks are going all the way back and are not getting hung up near the end of travel

- you can adjust the angle of the seatback by moving the catches - even elongate the slots if you need to to get more room

- spacers: thicker spacers under the front seat track studs and thinner ones under the back will also help with driving position (though I've not had to do this personally

- Tuff wheels do provide some extra room. 5 minutes and 3 nuts later and you can swap back to a woodgrain or rim-blow for show purposes

etc

Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1416187
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I have the same problem. I'm 6'2" and I have to slide in under the wheel it's tight and I have a tuff wheel on my 70 Challenger. I would like to locate the seat rearward for more room. Anyone have specifics on the best way to do it? I thought of moving the studs as stated is this the best way to go?

Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: YYZ] #1416188
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Thanks for the idea, I might look at moving the seat back.

Shims wouldn't help, probably make it worse moving the front of the seat up.


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Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1416189
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I am 6-1 with a bad right knee, I have had serious issues at times getting in and out of the 70 Cuda. For awhile I thought maybe the seat was in wrong, but I have found out the people in the 70s were just smaller.

Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: jml19621] #1416190
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it's worst when you have a bench bucket seat like my cuda..

Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1416191
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All your seat problems will go away as soon as you pound on the gas pedal!

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Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: RagtopChallenger] #1416192
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6-way seat is the only way I can go. My father's 74 Barracuda is without and I hate the seat position. My 71 is super comfy.

Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: wally426ci] #1416193
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modify the seats tracks to mount them farther back

Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: wally426ci] #1416194
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Wondering how exactly the 6 way helps? All it does is raise and lower the front and back of the seat correct? I don't see where either would help unless it drops the seat down in the front further, but I don't think that is possible.


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Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1416195
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im 18, 6'4 and 170lbs , I got my challenger this time last year, I was so happy that I got the car I didn't even care to notice the leg room issues and the car is a shell so I cant check, but being that I never plan on getting rid of the car and race motocross im going to be a sore old man so these seat modifications will be necessary, its a good thing I read this know


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Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1416196
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Wondering how exactly the 6 way helps? All it does is raise and lower the front and back of the seat correct? I don't see where either would help unless it drops the seat down in the front further, but I don't think that is possible.




I put a 6-way in my 73 Challenger, and it adds a lot of legroom. I'm 5'10 with short legs and with the standard seat tracks, I had my seat all the way back. With the 6-way addition, I have the seat about halfway forward. Also, by adjusting the front of the seat up, and the back down, you will gain headroom. I also have a Tuff wheel.

I've had some of my large size Mopar friends sit on the 6-way, and they are amazed at the additional head and leg room.

Find someone with a 6-way and ask to try it. You will be pleasantly surprised...

Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: 318 Stroker] #1416197
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Wondering how exactly the 6 way helps? All it does is raise and lower the front and back of the seat correct? I don't see where either would help unless it drops the seat down in the front further, but I don't think that is possible.




I put a 6-way in my 73 Challenger, and it adds a lot of legroom. I'm 5'10 with short legs and with the standard seat tracks, I had my seat all the way back. With the 6-way addition, I have the seat about halfway forward. Also, by adjusting the front of the seat up, and the back down, you will gain headroom. I also have a Tuff wheel.

I've had some of my large size Mopar friends sit on the 6-way, and they are amazed at the additional head and leg room.

Find someone with a 6-way and ask to try it. You will be pleasantly surprised...




I am going to have to look for one. I have looked a little bit and they seem really spendy!!!

Also I noticed mension on one place that the braces under the floor might be diffrent for the 6 way, I can't imagine they used a different floor for them.


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Wondering how exactly the 6 way helps? All it does is raise and lower the front and back of the seat correct? I don't see where either would help unless it drops the seat down in the front further, but I don't think that is possible.




I put a 6-way in my 73 Challenger, and it adds a lot of legroom. I'm 5'10 with short legs and with the standard seat tracks, I had my seat all the way back. With the 6-way addition, I have the seat about halfway forward. Also, by adjusting the front of the seat up, and the back down, you will gain headroom. I also have a Tuff wheel.

I've had some of my large size Mopar friends sit on the 6-way, and they are amazed at the additional head and leg room.

Find someone with a 6-way and ask to try it. You will be pleasantly surprised...




I am going to have to look for one. I have looked a little bit and they seem really spendy!!!

Also I noticed mension on one place that the braces under the floor might be diffrent for the 6 way, I can't imagine they used a different floor for them.




Yes they are spendy...

They are being re-popped. Some of the originals get worn, like mine is. Sometimes when I'm driving, it likes to "self-adjust" backwards a notch, on its own... The new re-pop probably wouldn't do that.

As for the underfloor braces, the regular seat tracks don't have any. Just the 6-way has the braces...

Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: 318 Stroker] #1416199
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Wondering how exactly the 6 way helps? All it does is raise and lower the front and back of the seat correct? I don't see where either would help unless it drops the seat down in the front further, but I don't think that is possible.




I put a 6-way in my 73 Challenger, and it adds a lot of legroom. I'm 5'10 with short legs and with the standard seat tracks, I had my seat all the way back. With the 6-way addition, I have the seat about halfway forward. Also, by adjusting the front of the seat up, and the back down, you will gain headroom. I also have a Tuff wheel.

I've had some of my large size Mopar friends sit on the 6-way, and they are amazed at the additional head and leg room.

Find someone with a 6-way and ask to try it. You will be pleasantly surprised...




I am going to have to look for one. I have looked a little bit and they seem really spendy!!!

Also I noticed mension on one place that the braces under the floor might be diffrent for the 6 way, I can't imagine they used a different floor for them.




Yes they are spendy...

They are being re-popped. Some of the originals get worn, like mine is. Sometimes when I'm driving, it likes to "self-adjust" backwards a notch, on its own... The new re-pop probably wouldn't do that.

As for the underfloor braces, the regular seat tracks don't have any. Just the 6-way has the braces...




Is their any problem with not using the under floor brace? The car is done and painted on the underside so I am not about to change it. I am guessing they were spot welded to the under side of the floor.


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Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: Mopar_Mudder] #1416200
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Wondering how exactly the 6 way helps? All it does is raise and lower the front and back of the seat correct? I don't see where either would help unless it drops the seat down in the front further, but I don't think that is possible.




I put a 6-way in my 73 Challenger, and it adds a lot of legroom. I'm 5'10 with short legs and with the standard seat tracks, I had my seat all the way back. With the 6-way addition, I have the seat about halfway forward. Also, by adjusting the front of the seat up, and the back down, you will gain headroom. I also have a Tuff wheel.

I've had some of my large size Mopar friends sit on the 6-way, and they are amazed at the additional head and leg room.

Find someone with a 6-way and ask to try it. You will be pleasantly surprised...




I am going to have to look for one. I have looked a little bit and they seem really spendy!!!

Also I noticed mension on one place that the braces under the floor might be diffrent for the 6 way, I can't imagine they used a different floor for them.




Yes they are spendy...

They are being re-popped. Some of the originals get worn, like mine is. Sometimes when I'm driving, it likes to "self-adjust" backwards a notch, on its own... The new re-pop probably wouldn't do that.

As for the underfloor braces, the regular seat tracks don't have any. Just the 6-way has the braces...




Is their any problem with not using the under floor brace? The car is done and painted on the underside so I am not about to change it. I am guessing they were spot welded to the under side of the floor.




Could be a big problem if you don't use them. The 6-way is heavy, and you could rip thru the floor with the stud mounts on the 6-way. The braces are re-popped. Either B,E A or RestoRick has them, I forget which.

They do not weld to the floor. Just paint them to match the underside, hold them in place as you drop the 6-way studs through, put the washers and nuts on, tighten them, and enjoy...

Disclaimer: Maybe they were welded from the factory, But I didn't weld mine. I just installed them as I described.

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Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: 318 Stroker] #1416201
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What about the height of the 6-way set-up. I have been searching some and it looks like it adds some height to the seat, reducing head room. This would make sence I guess as their must need some height for all the mechanics under their. I guess if all I am gaining is that the 6-way will slide back further (do they) I might as well try to mod my standard brackets to go back further......


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What about the height of the 6-way set-up. I have been searching some and it looks like it adds some height to the seat, reducing head room. This would make sence I guess as their must need some height for all the mechanics under their. I guess if all I am gaining is that the 6-way will slide back further (do they) I might as well try to mod my standard brackets to go back further......




Yes they do add some height, but by adjusting the rear of the seat downward, you you not only get a liitle bit of recline, but regain the height you lost with the higher 6-way unit. My tall Mopar friends have plenty of headroom that way.

Re: E-Body leg room, or lack of... [Re: 318 Stroker] #1416203
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Will the 6way all the way back set you lower than standard tracks? I have unlimited head room in the vert but I already look at the top of the windshield frame and would like to set lower and further back than the standard tracks let me.

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