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Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood #1414201
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This is a fantastic deal. I've equipped several Mopars with big Wilwood front brakes and for 6 piston calipers and the big rotors this is at least $500-800 less than what you would pay normally.

They have kits for Mopar drum spindles as well as The Magnumforce drop spindles(Aspen).

http://www.wilwood.com/Promo/Promo1.aspx

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: Lefty] #1414202
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Forgot to add - Those 6 piston calipers would work great for manual discs using the Wilwood 7/8" master cylinder and a 6 to 1 pedal ratio.

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: Lefty] #1414203
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i see they are for 62-69 b bodies wondering if it work on a 70

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: dart6] #1414204
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Looks like a good deal, but why go through the expense when for a little more you could have 14" rotors? Also, are the Wilwoods weather sealed? I'm going to assume that some would like to attempt some type of track event if they are purchasing these brakes. I wouldn't advise doing it with drum brake sized bearings.

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: BergmanAutoCraft] #1414205
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Looks like a good deal, but why go through the expense when for a little more you could have 14" rotors? Also, are the Wilwoods weather sealed? I'm going to assume that some would like to attempt some type of track event if they are purchasing these brakes. I wouldn't advise doing it with drum brake sized bearings.




They are an integral rotor hat system correct? Which I do not prefer. Regarding the bearing question, depending on previous point, at least its steel hub, I have much concern over the common Wilwood alum hub/small bearing/Alter K solutions, including the 73+ bearing stuff style alum hubs, for any big car big tire track use. I do it and don't like it, but there really is no more robust system, until stepping up to maybe impala or Howe/Stock car hubs. Not having road salt issues in my area, I don't have a lot of concern with the seal issue, wisely or not.


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Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: jcc] #1414206
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Looks like a good deal, but why go through the expense when for a little more you could have 14" rotors? Also, are the Wilwoods weather sealed? I'm going to assume that some would like to attempt some type of track event if they are purchasing these brakes. I wouldn't advise doing it with drum brake sized bearings.




They are an integral rotor hat system correct? Which I do not prefer. Regarding the bearing question, depending on previous point, at least its steel hub, I have much concern over the common Wilwood alum hub/small bearing/Alter K solutions, including the 73+ bearing stuff style alum hubs, for any big car big tire track use. I do it and don't like it, but there really is no more robust system, until stepping up to maybe impala or Howe/Stock car hubs. Not having road salt issues in my area, I don't have a lot of concern with the seal issue, wisely or not.




Forged aluminum hubs

2 pc hat and rotor. Aluminum hat.

I believe this is what dan w from hotchkis uses on his blue rr. Dan?

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: autoxcuda] #1414207
04/04/13 12:27 PM
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The description says the kits include a new, 1 piece iron rotor.

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: DoctorDiff] #1414208
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The description says the kits include a new, 1 piece iron rotor.




Picture on my phone looked like a two piece hat and rotor, but if I blow it up I don't see any bolts between hub and rotor. Clever.

You're right description says "new" one pc rotor. My guess is that's where the price "discount" comes from. So it's not really 100% the old kit?

Nonetheless its $995 for 13" one pc rotors, big road course 6/4 piston calipers, hubs, and complete bolt in kit. What other options are at the $1000 mark?

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: autoxcuda] #1414209
04/04/13 06:41 PM
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If I have this correct Dr. Diff has a 13" srt8 charger rotor matched with a viper caliper. I believe it's radial mount and about $1200. Not sure what the charger rotor makeup is? Cass am I close?

Damon

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: mopardamo] #1414210
04/04/13 11:29 PM
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Hi Damon,

My new kit includes all new parts: Plated, drilled/and/or/slotted 13 x 1.25" Mercedes rotors, fully machined forged aluminum hubs, red powder-coated radial mount Brembo style calipers, semi-metallic pads, billet aluminum caliper brackets, Timken bearings and DOT stainless flex hoses set up for A/B/E body disc knuckles. $1250

I can also provide a 14.25" version of this kit (Charger SRT rotor), but there are not many affordable 18" wheels that clear the large rotor.

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: DoctorDiff] #1414211
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I really dig the fact that mine is Mopar based.

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Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: DoctorDiff] #1414212
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Hi Damon,

My new kit includes all new parts: Plated, drilled/and/or/slotted 13 x 1.25" Mercedes rotors, fully machined forged aluminum hubs, red powder-coated radial mount Brembo style calipers, semi-metallic pads, billet aluminum caliper brackets, Timken bearings and DOT stainless flex hoses set up for A/B/E body disc knuckles. $1250

I can also provide a 14.25" version of this kit (Charger SRT rotor), but there are not many affordable 18" wheels that clear the large rotor.




That's a one piece rotor also. Somewhat comparable kit? but $250 more. Some differences?

Dr Diff, will yours fit under most 17" rims?

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: autoxcuda] #1414213
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Looks like my 13" x 1.25" kit costs $135 more than Wilwood's 12.88" x 1.1" kit after upgrading the rotor and adding DOT stainless flex hoses to the Wilwood offering.

In addition, I don't see anything compatible with standard Mopar disc knuckles.

As far as I know, most 17" wheels will clear.

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: DoctorDiff] #1414214
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Looks like my 13" x 1.25" kit costs $135 more than Wilwood's 12.88" x 1.1" kit after upgrading the rotor and adding DOT stainless flex hoses to the Wilwood offering.

In addition, I don't see anything compatible with standard Mopar disc knuckles.

As far as I know, most 17" wheels will clear.




Very good points. I thought there would be some differences. But didn't realize all the fine print.

Yours come with braided lines, Willwoods do not. Yours come with drilled and slotted rotors standard, with Willwood that is a $49 upgrade.

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: DoctorDiff] #1414215
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Doctor Diff,

So what you are saying that your 13 inch front brake kit that comes with a 13 x 1.25 inch one piece iron rotors for 1,250. Do you have a 2 piece aluminum hat rotor option? and how much?

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: autoxcuda] #1414216
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Looks like a good deal, but why go through the expense when for a little more you could have 14" rotors? Also, are the Wilwoods weather sealed? I'm going to assume that some would like to attempt some type of track event if they are purchasing these brakes. I wouldn't advise doing it with drum brake sized bearings.




They are an integral rotor hat system correct? Which I do not prefer. Regarding the bearing question, depending on previous point, at least its steel hub, I have much concern over the common Wilwood alum hub/small bearing/Alter K solutions, including the 73+ bearing stuff style alum hubs, for any big car big tire track use. I do it and don't like it, but there really is no more robust system, until stepping up to maybe impala or Howe/Stock car hubs. Not having road salt issues in my area, I don't have a lot of concern with the seal issue, wisely or not.




Forged aluminum hubs

2 pc hat and rotor. Aluminum hat.

I believe this is what dan w from hotchkis uses on his blue rr. Dan?




I do. I would also add that I inspect my stuff and change pad frequently than most. If I lived back east I would clean my stuff more often, the Road Runner doesn't do too well on snowy roads.
I'd probably take my truck. But as for commuting and rain/etc, I haven't encountered any issues with the "no seal" wilwood stuff. If you are a set it and forget it kind of guy, stick with factory stuff.

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: moparAL] #1414217
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Baer makes 2 piece rotors that fit my front and rear brake kits, but they are very expensive. The Eradispeed front rotor upgrade runs something like $700.

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: Dan@Hotchkis] #1414218
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the Road Runner doesn't do too well on snowy roads.




I suspect you are somewhat building off my comment with northern common applied road salt. I'm a Fla guy so I am going out on a limb here, but I suspect road applied salt during winter storms lasts as a dry powder for many months if not years after being applied, and with continuing corrosion issues, its not the snow (although driving the RR anywhere other then a large snow covered empty parking lot I suspect is somewhat nerve wracking) so much as the long lasting salt. Northern guys, am I correct?]


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Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: jcc] #1414219
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I bought the wilwood 13" kit with drilled/slotted rotors then sold the kit to get the doctor diff one. they donot come with brake SS lines and if you get the rears they do not come with the green bearings or proper parking brake lines which you have to factor into the price. Get the doctor diff kit

Re: Super disk brake kit deal from Wilwood [Re: dangina] #1414220
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From my view point there is no doubt who's kit has the advantage when all the finer points are weighed. I'm calling Dr. Diff this year for his kit. I'll need a Dana 60 and rear brakes too. I think he goes to the Nat's so i'll save the shipping provided that is true this year?

Damon

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