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Re: Rampage [Re: mcat4321] #1407919 07/07/13 12:03 PM 07/07/13 12:03 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,942 Metro Detroit OUTLAWD top fuel
OUTLAWD top fuel Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,942 Metro Detroit	Good to hear! I also was surprised to see a summit box on my doorstep yesterday...now only if this weather would allow me to get some "testing" done Quote: i am no purist by any means.. but those T/A blocks are very desirable by the guys restoring those cars.. there are lots of non desirable 340/360 blocks for race applications...1 T/A = 3-4 non t/a blocks strong factory block = desirable race block I'd save the "non-desirable" hardware for the car show crowd Faster, Faster until the thrill of speed overcomes the fear of death... 71 Swinger - slowly collecting dust/parts 66 Belv. II - just a streetcar 88 Mustang - turbo LS beater

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407920 07/07/13 12:16 PM 07/07/13 12:16 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge FastmOp master
FastmOp master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge	I admire your work ethic!

Re: Rampage [Re: FastmOp] #1407921 07/07/13 12:33 PM 07/07/13 12:33 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: I admire your work ethic! I dont know about that... if it was good this engine would have been running fine... I over looked something but after giving it some thought I think I know where I went wrong... I will correct it

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407922 07/07/13 03:17 PM 07/07/13 03:17 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge FastmOp master
FastmOp master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,762 Hot Rod Ridge	Just look at the work you have done in this post. That's why this sport is not for the week. We all have our bad days. You will get it lined out! My elCamino is almost the exact same red. Now it's back to body work for me so I don't feel like an old guy is working harder then me

Re: Rampage [Re: FastmOp] #1407923 07/10/13 03:47 PM 07/10/13 03:47 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Minor set back today... as I was going through the W-2 heads I found a broken valve spring... they ship on 7/22.... at least I found it.. surprisingly it was a inner... I checked another set of springs to see if I could steal the inner... nope... MUCH weaker inner spring... I might pull a spring from the W-5 just to get it on the road.. its still too wimpy for what I want but I can get on the road and I can change them out when they show up.. I'll just have to take it sorta easy till then

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407924 07/10/13 05:34 PM 07/10/13 05:34 PM
Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden 1 1Fast340 master
1Fast340 master 1 Joined: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,578 sweden	Mike you realy cant seem to get a break from the bad luck hope it turns around for you soon!

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407925 07/10/13 05:43 PM 07/10/13 05:43 PM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	Just curious.....sounds like you pulled an engine out of your race car and are tearing it down....were even contemplating starting with a different block........... What was so wrong with the engine in the Rampage that you couldnt fix that just as easy/easier than what you are doing ??

Re: Rampage [Re: 1Fast340] #1407926 07/10/13 05:44 PM 07/10/13 05:44 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Mike you realy cant seem to get a break from the bad luck hope it turns around for you soon! You got that right... well now I know why it slowed down the last time this engine ran.. the spring slowly started winding up on itself... it lost .2 in 2 passes then I told my driver.. we're done.. somethings wrong.. at least other than the spring nothing was hurt

Re: Rampage [Re: ] #1407927 07/10/13 05:49 PM 07/10/13 05:49 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Just curious.....sounds like you pulled an engine out of your race car and are tearing it down....were even contemplating starting with a different block........... What was so wrong with the engine in the Rampage that you couldnt fix that just as easy/easier than what you are doing ?? It needs lifter bore bushings... when the oil get hot it starts dropping pressure.. its right on the edge of exposing the oil port... with the thicker oil it covers it up enough

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407928 07/13/13 12:14 AM 07/13/13 12:14 AM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	I ran into a first today... I was putting the oil pump on my 396 SB thats going into the Rampage.. I put the pump on and the pan... went to roll the crank around and clunk and the crank stopped... so I pulled the pan and turned the crank to see the counter weight hits the oil pump... I had another pump so I put that one on and it clears by .050 or so.. thats the first time I ever had the oil pump get in the way... and that pump was in the 416 engine and cleared fine... I will look tomorrow to see if the rear main is just a little shorter... or if its a casting thing on that pump (but it cleared the 4" crank and the pump that was in this engine cleared... oh well... it goes along with the rest of the stuff on this car... it HATES ME

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407929 07/13/13 02:37 AM 07/13/13 02:37 AM
Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can. 7 72demon416 pro stock
72demon416 pro stock 7 Joined: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,496 Sask, Can.	Your luck is sounding a lot like how mine is normally....

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407930 07/13/13 02:54 AM 07/13/13 02:54 AM
Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,589 Topeka Kansas K ksj master
ksj master K Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,589 Topeka Kansas	Quit calling her names.Told you to talk nice.You will get there.Shes just being abit needy.

Re: Rampage [Re: ksj] #1407931 07/13/13 11:03 AM 07/13/13 11:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,920 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer Too Many Posts
tboomer Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,920 United Socialist States of Ame...	Mike....Gotta give you an "A" for effort! A lot of guys would have given up by now! You sure are a persistent [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean]!! Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: Rampage [Re: tboomer] #1407932 07/13/13 01:15 PM 07/13/13 01:15 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Mike....Gotta give you an "A" for effort! A lot of guys would have given up by now! You sure are a persistent [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean]!! LOL... maybe thats my problem... I dont know when to give up...all thats taken care of now but I'm fixing some other small things on this engine that I should have 8 years ago.. the edges of the intake are a little high and the valve cove JUST sealed before so I cut that down... I'll clean up the shop tomorrow then I should be ready to put it in on Monday... plus I want to cut a access panel in the fender well so I can get the starter out easier

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407933 07/13/13 01:29 PM 07/13/13 01:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,920 United Socialist States of Ame... T tboomer Too Many Posts
tboomer Too Many Posts T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 25,920 United Socialist States of Ame...	Hmmmm...Can't figure why the word filter edited out b u g g e r... Need your rear end checked out? Contact Grizzly!!

Re: Rampage [Re: tboomer] #1407934 07/13/13 01:35 PM 07/13/13 01:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan B B3422W5 I Live Here
B3422W5 I Live Here B Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,711 Portage,michigan	Mike, I feel your pain.... on a positive note, fixin stuff in the garage is a lot more fun than fixin it in a pit spot at the race track any old day 69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight 418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4 1.41 best 60 foot 6.60 at 103.90 1/8

Re: Rampage [Re: B3422W5] #1407935 07/13/13 01:42 PM 07/13/13 01:42 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Mike, I feel your pain.... on a positive note, fixin stuff in the garage is a lot more fun than fixin it in a pit spot at the race track any old day You got that right

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407936 07/14/13 05:46 PM 07/14/13 05:46 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Damn I hate porting iron heads... I now know why I had different stuff on one of my W-2 heads... when I bought them both they were SUPPOSE to be econo long valves... one is the other is standard.. well now I'm porting 1 new long valve head to match the other... damn I hate MP and their wrong parts... yet this head worked for 1000 passes or more the rockers on the on the standard head with long valves the springs were rubbing and was eating them up... I do have spare rockers so I have to get this head ported to get it on plus I need to cut the seats.. at least I can do all this myself... this car HATES ME.. but I would rather do it now and not break down on DW... this is getting REAL OLD... this is about the 6th time I got the wrong labeled parts from good old MP

Re: Rampage [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1407937 07/14/13 06:03 PM 07/14/13 06:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 795 Glendale Az D Darryls-Demon super stock
Darryls-Demon super stock D Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 795 Glendale Az	Sure hope this motor works out Mike you have had your fair share of bad luck with this build.

Re: Rampage [Re: Darryls-Demon] #1407938 07/14/13 06:09 PM 07/14/13 06:09 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY OP Master
MR_P_BODY OP Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Sure hope this motor works out Mike you have had your fair share of bad luck with this build. If I had time I would pull the 416 apart and have the lifter bores bushed and put it back together... if I would have done that when I first pulled it out I would be close to getting it back in now.. but I thought it was gonna be a quick freshen up on the 396

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