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Correct Sassy Grass paint, which brand? #1405724
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Getting ready to paint the Duster soon. Which brand do you recommend for the correct color FJ6 Sassy Grass using base/clear. My paint guy usually uses Dupont. Is one more correct over the other?


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Re: Correct Sassy Grass paint, which brand? [Re: mopargem] #1405725
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Face it, if your doing Base/Clear it won't be correct....


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Re: Correct Sassy Grass paint, which brand? [Re: mopargem] #1405726
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MOPAR uses PPG originally, , , if that matters

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True... PPG Acrylic Enamel was OEM. How about a single stage urethane? very durable finish with just enough peel in it. Or you could color sand it for a glass like shine, but then it wouldnt be like OEM. oh well..your choice.Base clear is most common for restos depending on the final results you are looking for. If your Duster still has a original spot of factory color on it, have your painter do a drop down panel for closest match.
Good luck and hope to see pics soon.
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Re: Correct Sassy Grass paint, which brand? [Re: HotRod20] #1405728
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Hmmm now you all have me thinking about a single stage. Base clear looks great but does look a little too nice sometimes. No paint booth but I guess since this isn't a poly he could sand buff any dirt or imperfections.


68 Polara 500...LL1 Y7 M6X
69 Hemi road runner...X9 X9 M6X
69 A12 road runner....R4 R4 M6X
69 ModTop FLORAL Super Bee...F
70 AAR 'cuda...EW1 EW1 H4X9
71 Duster 340...FJ6 V24 L6X9
71 road runner FC7 V1X M6X9

72 Rallye Charger B5 V1W

74 'cuda 360...KB5 V1X A6X9
08 SRT Challenger #234



Re: Correct Sassy Grass paint, which brand? [Re: mopargem] #1405729
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sounds like you want that original look. If so, (DuPont Nason)acrylic enamel would be a good choice for you. Make sure to do a color spray out first, and match it, after it dries.

Re: Correct Sassy Grass paint, which brand? [Re: 70_FJ6_RR] #1405730
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Make sure you post pics after it's painted, cant wait to see it.

Re: Correct Sassy Grass paint, which brand? [Re: 79machocharger] #1405731
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I would pass on the Nason and use Dupont Centari with their hardner .
You get a much more original look with single stage acrylic .
Thic car was painted 10 years ago with Centari .

Re: Correct Sassy Grass paint, which brand? [Re: FY1TA] #1405732
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I would pass on the Nason and use Dupont Centari with their hardner .
You get a much more original look with single stage acrylic .
Thic car was painted 10 years ago with Centari .




I'm sure it has served you well and held up just fine. But I don't understand why anyone would use Centari today when doing a complete on a show car. Don't get me wrong, it was considered good paint once upon a time. If you want a single stage appearance, a modern urethane would be far superior.

To the OP, talk to your painter again about what he likes to spray and what your expecations are. Whether it's base/clear or SS, you can wet sand and buff it to glass if you choose. Base/clear is easier to repair and blend if you need to do that down the road. Compare the cost on the materials between the two systems as well. Both will look great.

It is not always as easy as saying, "Use this paint manufacturer and this code." It may need to be color adjusted to get what you want. If the painter is mixing it, have him do a spray out panel so you can see what you're getting. If the paint jobber is mixing, have them do the test panel before you commit.

Re: Correct Sassy Grass paint, which brand? [Re: FY1TA] #1405733
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I'm not a painter, nor an expert. But I can share my experience with PPG in both acrylic enamel and base/clear.

I have had my car painted in R4 using both acrylic enamel and base clear, both PPG. I had it resprayed in base clear after being unhappy with the body work and look of the acrylic enamel. I'm sure there are good and bad aspects to both paints.

Here's my

The acrylic enamel may have been "correct", but it doesn't look very nice when compared to base/clear. The people that love the correct acrylic enamel look seem to be the ones that have their car painted in it, and now they feel the need to defend it. I will say, the acrylic enamel on my car looked great in pictures and from about 10ft away in person. Nothing but disappointment when you would get close though. But that could've been the painter's fault.

With so many classic Mopars painted in base/clear these days, and all new cars in it as well, the acrylic enamel can't compare in a side-by-side comparison.

I would think the PPG base/clear would be pretty darn close in color. Of course it won't have all that orange peel, and people will argue that it isn't "correct". But let's face it, those are the same people that will just find something else on your car that is wrong.

I feel that my R4 looked more red in acrylic enamel, and now it looks more orange in base clear. I compared my original doors (didn't use in resto) in R4 to my newly painted car, and I can't tell a difference in tint or color.

Here is my car now in PPG R4 (Barracuda Orange) base/clear...

Re: Correct Sassy Grass paint, which brand? [Re: chapdog105] #1405734
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I agree with the last two posts, I tried very hard with several different manufacturers/brands and suppliers to come up with a color match I was happy with.
I was hopeful to get my car painted in single stage but without doing a complete custom mix it wasnt happening. I ended up with PPG BC/CC and with some preliminary shooting (inside fenders, under hood/deck lid, engine compartment & interior area including the trunk) Im happy with my choice. Of course I wont know 100% until we hit Green Day!!!

good luck with you selection process...Mine lasted about two months.

Re: Correct Sassy Grass paint, which brand? [Re: LimeliteAero] #1405735
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One more thing. Unless you are in the rarified air of competing for OEM Gold or high end judging, the idea of trying for orange peel and factory quality finishes seems counter productive. I do understand why some want to do it. But spending all that money on product to make it look less than it can be makes me go It only seems like muscle and Vettes have this mind set. Other car collectors make 'em look as good as they can.

Re: Correct Sassy Grass paint, which brand? [Re: Aero426] #1405736
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Unless you are in the rarified air of competing for OEM Gold or high end judging, the idea of trying for orange peel and factory quality finishes seems counter productive.





I'd agree with that...

Map out your objectives...

If you're after longevity, use a good product...


I got 20 years going on a good two-stage...

Mission Accomplished...

Re: Correct Sassy Grass paint, which brand? [Re: RSNOMO] #1405737
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Not Mopar, but this is what $3000 of undercoat and PPG Deltron 3 stage looks like. My friends '64 Ford Holman Moody race car, rescued from a field. It replicates the original Barris color which was called Candy Tangerine. Not bad for a garage job either. He plans to vintage race it.








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