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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: mopar dave] #1401904
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sounds good 700hp and 8000rpm. the [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] build a good motor. just sold a 08 gsxr 750,ran flawlessly. very impressed with their motors. redlined at 14,500rpm.
best rated my 408 at [Email]680hp@7500[/Email] with just studs and stock caps and block fill as the max on block.
aluminum main caps will be alittle insurance.




Dave, these main caps will be 4140 steel, not aluminum. They should have the same thermal expansion rate as the block.


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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: Guitar Jones] #1401905
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I can make steel or aluminum. everyone can order direct and if you have 3 people already i'll suck it up and make the other two sets to put on the shelf. I would like everyones contact info and credit card info so as soon as they are ready we can ship. we don't bill anything until the parts are ready to go to ups.

also i don't believe the girdles help on the small block unless you can find away to integrate it into the pan rail. which as far as i know no one has done yet. I thought about doing it, but in reality not that many people have seen cap walk on a small block and the cost of tooling up for a limited market would be prohibitive. i haven't given up on the idea, but if there is some interest we can give it a go.


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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: Jerry] #1401906
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Excellent, thank you Jerry. I'll give you a call.


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'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: Guitar Jones] #1401907
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Ill give ya a call about 4 today. Are you in troy on elliot?

Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: mopar dave] #1401908
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I'm all in guys. Jerry said it would only take about 2 weeks for these to ship.


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'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: mopar dave] #1401909
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yes we are in troy Mi on elliott Drive. if your in the area we would be more than happy to show you around our shop and what we have cooking for the mopar crowd.

big block cap and girdle kits
mopar serpentine belt drive kits )small and big block)
EFi conversions
megasquirt harness kits for mopars
and a few more things i don't want to let out of the bag just yet.

please call first to make sure i'm available when you want to come by.


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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: Jerry] #1401910
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While I dont need a set - Thanks Jerry for stepping up to the plate and getting something done on this.

Good Job!

Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: Jerry] #1401911
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Jerry im happy to put my hand up for a set if your happy to ship to australia for me.

Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: L4staero] #1401912
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Jerry im happy to put my hand up for a set if your happy to ship to australia for me.




There ya go. USPS ships all over the world and I've found them better for overseas shipping than UPS.


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'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: L4staero] #1401913
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We ship to australia all the time. as long as your willing to pay the shipping i'm happy to get them down there for you.


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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: Jerry] #1401914
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Yep no problems jerry. Count me in then. If you can send me a pm when its all a go and i will call through my credit card number. Cheers

Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: Guitar Jones] #1401915
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Jerry im happy to put my hand up for a set if your happy to ship to australia for me.




There ya go. USPS ships all over the world and I've found them better for overseas shipping than UPS.




...and on a different note, I take it you decided to keep the W5's in the family.

...and on the integrated girdle I'm betting a fairly heavy cast aluminum pan with the girdle built in is what you are possibly thinking of, but where do you draw the $$ line.

Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: J_BODY] #1401916
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Jerry im happy to put my hand up for a set if your happy to ship to australia for me.




There ya go. USPS ships all over the world and I've found them better for overseas shipping than UPS.




...and on a different note, I take it you decided to keep the W5's in the family.

...and on the integrated girdle I'm betting a fairly heavy cast aluminum pan with the girdle built in is what you are possibly thinking of, but where do you draw the $$ line.




Yes the W5's are going on this engine. It might not be ideal but I can get my big cam in there and still keep the compression around 12.5.

Jerry would like to do a small block girdle that ties into the pan rail but there doesn't seem to be much of a market for that. Once you start spending so much money on a stock block you might as well just pop for the R or Ritter block.


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2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
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I am having Milodon caps put on my 340 stroker @ Dargie Racing Engines right now.

This is the first time I have ever done that to a block. Hope it does me good.

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Just wanted to follow up with everyone. we had a really go response to the first order of the small block main caps. we are currently finishing the programming and these will be going on the cnc on wednesday. prototypes will be done on friday and the first productions units will start no later than monday. most of the customers want 4140 steel. some are going for aluminum. i will post some pics as soon as i get the first ones off the machine.

Jerry


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Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: Jerry] #1401919
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Just wanted to follow up with everyone. we had a really go response to the first order of the small block main caps. we are currently finishing the programming and these will be going on the cnc on wednesday. prototypes will be done on friday and the first productions units will start no later than monday. most of the customers want 4140 steel. some are going for aluminum. i will post some pics as soon as i get the first ones off the machine.

Jerry




Thanks for the update Jerry! I just dropped my heads off at Mike Ford's racing engines to have them cut and talked to him about line boring and honing the block. I'm getting excited now...


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'74 W200 Crew Cab 360, NV4500, D44, D60 and NP205 divorced transfer case. Rear disc and hydroboost conversion.
2019 1500 Long Horn Crew Cab 4WD, 5.7 Hemi.
Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: Jerry] #1401920
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Did these caps ever get made?

Rod

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I have 1 340 stock block with big 4 bolt steel main
caps.. the outer bolts are 3/8 but I still feel it
helps spread the load... but at a point its not the
main caps that are the weak point... I've had more
blocks crack a cyl wall than hurt stock caps





Exactly...your more likely to break the block than the cap!


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Did these caps ever get made?

Rod




want a set to play with?




Re: SB aftermarket main caps, waste of money? [Re: J_BODY] #1401923
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Are the ones you have for a 340? I am looking at a stock block but some of the caps are missing. Are these for sale and are they aluminum? Just considering my options.

Rod

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