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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: jcc]
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03/07/13 09:09 PM
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up yours
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Sweet looking rides you posted.
I'll be honest, when you mentioned 800hp twin turbo I thought "internet wannabe".
I'm happy to admit I am wrong. As for budget, it appears that you do things right and it costs what it costs. If so you have options hackers like me do not.
I look forward to this build's progress.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question.
They say there is always the exception that proves the rule.
Don't be the exception.
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: joshking440]
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03/07/13 11:21 PM
03/07/13 11:21 PM
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No Sanctioning body, no real plans.
I want a car I can drive from Indy to Vegas at 200mph if I want to.
Ride good handle good do donuts good.... just an all around real fun car
Well shoot, all you really need is some big fat tires, massive brakes, Fox shocks, and wrist thick sway bars. You're set, hit it!
In all seriousness though, you might want a Morrison Max G full frame conversion for simplicity. They even have them for A bodies. With all that big block weight on the nose, You'll need to converse with these guys, and your buddies maybe, about the correct roll couple percentages to keep things manageable so the shiny side stays up.
200 mph, hmm, maybe for a split second on a run but not for any duration in a stock body Cuda. If your willing to cut and mod the bod, maybe then you could sustain it.
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: TC@HP2]
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03/07/13 11:35 PM
03/07/13 11:35 PM
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No Sanctioning body, no real plans.
I want a car I can drive from Indy to Vegas at 200mph if I want to.
Ride good handle good do donuts good.... just an all around real fun car
Well shoot, all you really need is some big fat tires, massive brakes, Fox shocks, and wrist thick sway bars. You're set, hit it!
In all seriousness though, you might want a Morrison Max G full frame conversion for simplicity. They even have them for A bodies. With all that big block weight on the nose, You'll need to converse with these guys, and your buddies maybe, about the correct roll couple percentages to keep things manageable so the shiny side stays up.
200 mph, hmm, maybe for a split second on a run but not for any duration in a stock body Cuda. If your willing to cut and mod the bod, maybe then you could sustain it.
Like this?
Tom
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: TC@HP2]
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03/07/13 11:40 PM
03/07/13 11:40 PM
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Bitopia
jcc
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200 mph, hmm, maybe for a split second on a run but not for any duration in a stock body Cuda. If your willing to cut and mod the bod, maybe then you could sustain it.
IMO At 200mph that body shape will generate so much lift in the rear there will be no way to put down 800hp to get to 200mph, unless going downhill, of course if we add big wings/spoilers, he'll need a heavier RB to hold the front end down, or go to a ground hugging front splitter, but then car is no longer streetable as OP desired, and have a lot more then 800hp to push all the wing added drag, and tires don't really matter until he's ready to turn or brake. Wasn't this whole topic covered in a recent mopar mag with a full blown cup car, which has little if anything in common with this fastback brick? 
Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: joshking440]
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03/08/13 12:31 AM
03/08/13 12:31 AM
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Mini tub and 335s shouldnt be a stretch with stock frame rails. 18x12 wheels are pretty much flush with that tires sidewall.
Last edited by 72Swinger; 03/08/13 12:32 AM.
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: joshking440]
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03/08/13 12:35 AM
03/08/13 12:35 AM
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How big can I get under this with out cutting it up. 325 or so? Rearend width can change
Up front, it depends on how much backspacing with what diameter rim you can use on a Reily front end.
I could barely fit a 245/50/15 tire with 15x8 rims 4.5" backspace on my 68 Barracuda with stock front fenders. Those are 27.8" diameter. Equal in diameter to a 245/40/17.
IIRC, the RMS front end moves the rotor face outward. So you have to ask Bill how much more outward it is from a 1973-76 big bolt pattern disk brake setup (what I had).
My pure guess is you'll need something around a 6.0" backspace 17x8" rim with 245/40/17 tire. Just an initial guess. You need to get spec from Bill.
In the rear, is it allready minitubbed? Are you againsted mini tubbing it?
In the rear without touching anything you can fit a 275 back there.
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: autoxcuda]
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03/08/13 03:58 AM
03/08/13 03:58 AM
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Woodinville, WA
Viol8r
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OK, so you know what you are doing!! You will be fine. Enjoy the build, it should be a something else! You may struggle to find forward bite with all that HP, but you may just have to ease into it off the corners...  My buddy is building a '67 Notchback Cuda with an EFI 360 and Hotchkis suspension. Viper brakes all the way around. A little tamer then your build but a good all around car. I will show him the pics of your car, he will be envious.
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: joshking440]
#1398448
03/08/13 12:21 PM
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Uhh, hardly.
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IMO At 200mph that body shape will generate so much lift in the rear there will be no way to put down 800hp to get to 200mph, unless going downhill, of course if we add big wings/spoilers, he'll need a heavier RB to hold the front end down,
Thats why I said "maybe" for a split second. SS/AH cars are at 150+ in stock bodies and a flat rear spoiler. With some mild alterations you could push on to 200, for a brief instant. I never said you would necessarily walk away from such a run... But if you want to sustain it, then things will certainly get more radical and probably end up looking more like a Pro Mod type of body.
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I guess I didn't know how literal you road race guys were.
200mph was just an expression.
The 800hp is for 60mph rolling burnouts.
If it will run 170 or so I'll be happy....until I get passed by a vette or something
Lets put it into a context you may be familiar with...I call up Indy on the phone and say I want a 500 inch mill that will make 1000 horsepower under 10,000 rpm for an hour at a time without boost. It must live on pump gas and idle smooth enough to drive on the street. My budget is $25k. What would your answer be? The request is pushing the limits, but possible. You likely would ask me for variables on what I may be willing to compromise on, fuel, price, power, where can I give a little to make things work. You threw out a similar type of request wrapped up in a chassis package. Should the response be literal or laughable?
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Re: Building a curvy car
[Re: joshking440]
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03/08/13 01:20 PM
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Also the seats are a big concern of mine. I'm not going to do a flashy modern interior. It's going to utilize all the stock stuff. Dash and carpet gauge cluster and everything else. But I'm not sold on putting new car interior in these older cars. Is there a bucket that will keep you in place but doesn't look to fast and furious.
Scat Procar Rally.
I have older Elite in full vinyl in mine right now. They are nice, but the full vinyl is slipery and they have less side bolstering on the seat back than a Rally model. A cloth insert would hold me in the seat much better and be more comfortable cruising on a hot day.
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