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64 valiant /6 to v8 conversion questions???
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So the car I am thinking about converting is a /6 push-button trans car, I want to swap in a 360 and 904 but don't want to pay big dollars for a PB 904 v8 trans. Is there a way to convert a normal 904 (I have a nice 5 clutch low ratio unit with a mild kit ready to run)to work with the PB controls? I seem to remember reading about a kit somewhere to do this but google is not helping...
Also since it has a 7.25 rear I seem to remember certain year truck rears 8.75 and 9.75 are close enough to make them fit, was that true? If it is true what years am I looking for?
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Re: 64 valiant /6 to v8 conversion questions???
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Re: 64 valiant /6 to v8 conversion questions???
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Is there a way to convert a normal 904 (I have a nice 5 clutch low ratio unit with a mild kit ready to run)to work with the PB controls?
imperial services does it. just be prepared to wait 2 years to hopefully get your parts back. better off getting the right trans or just putting a aftermarket floor shifter in it.
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Re: 64 valiant /6 to v8 conversion questions???
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02/18/13 05:40 PM
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If you're staying with SBP up front then you'd want a SBP 8&3/4 in the rear & A body 8&3/4 were all SBP & show up occaisionally but are pricey. Easiest would be to get a pair of A body 8&3/4 axles for $50-$100 (they're around) & some SBP 8&3/4 backing plates then have Moser in Portland Indiana shorten an 8&3/4 housing/reweld the perches to A body specs (they're reasonable). If you want BBP then send in a 1/2 ton truck or E or C body 8&3/4 rear axle & have it shortened/perches rewelded. As said go with a floor shifter or find a column shift steering column from a 66 dart along with the shift linkage that goes from the column end to the trans & drill/tap a hole in the dr subframe to mount the linkage. As you know the inner shafts are different lengths between manual & power steering & FYI the inner steel shafts interchange easily being secured only by the snap ring under the steering wheel
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Re: 64 valiant /6 to v8 conversion questions???
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I have a set of motor mounts, I have a set of later a-body manifolds and a set of the 92 magnum big exit manifolds, if neither of those will work I may be interested in those manifolds. I just need to figure out the trans issue 
i think its the drivers side thats the problem, the steering column is in the way. other manifolds might work though.
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Re: 64 valiant /6 to v8 conversion questions???
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I think that conversion thingy only works with a column or console shift and not the push button type 
Yeah, forgot that was for the 65 column/console shifter. They do say they will make one that works with 64-earlier pushbutton shifters, too, but only on special order, and they don't say what the cost of that is or how long it will take.
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Re: 64 valiant /6 to v8 conversion questions???
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What 62 said you'll need the 64-66 A body 273 V8 dropped centerlink & a regular "centersump" 360 passenger car pan. The sump ain't in the center but is almost all the way forward but is commonly called a centersump pan. Those centerlinks go for 50-75 & www.forabodiesonly.com would be a good source for one.
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Re: 64 valiant /6 to v8 conversion questions???
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here are the mods needed for the motor mounts..
That diagram comes from the Mopar Performance engine manual and what it shows is actually what you need for the 67-later mounts, not the 66-earlier. The concept is correct, but the dimensions are wrong for the early A body brackets. That mistake has been in the MP manual for probably four decades.
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Re: 64 valiant /6 to v8 conversion questions???
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03/25/13 12:37 PM
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On the rear end I had to have it narrowed and even a 8& 3/4 dart housing was too wide!
an abody rear was too wide for your 64 valiant? something isn't right with that. it should have bolted right in with no issues. i had a abody 8 3/4 in my 64 (big bolt axles too) with a set of ss springs and had no issues fitting a 28x9 slick on the car. springs in stock location, wheelwells stock.
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save myself from all the misery involved each and everytime you try to do anything to it! IT'S A COMPLETE NIGHTMARE EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE!!!
what changes did you make that was such misery?
i had a 360 and a 440 in mine. both went in pretty damn easily. the 440 was actually a little easier to work on with the dist being up front. only big cost thing at the time was the custom headers i needed for the big block. other then that everything cost about the same to put a small block or a big block in my 64 valiant.
fits like a glove.. 
and it fits under the hood...
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No A body rar end is the same as a early C body 
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