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QA1 Suspension R & D
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02/12/13 09:26 PM
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Wanted to give you guys s heads up that QA1 Suspension in conjunction with FM3 Marketing has contacted me to help finalize the research and delevopment phase of the front K-Member and associated components of this line of products. I will be involved in documenting the build of the components and also attending events/ shows/ tracks. We do not have all the details yet as they have not released the product to me yet. But this will include tubluar upper control arms, lower control arms, shocks, K-Member, Sway-bar, etc. I believe this could be an impressive and affordable option that a lot you guys have been looking for. Hopefully I can help work some kinks out, if there is any, and add this to the top of the list for a must have mod to your car. http://www.qa1.net/qa1_motorsports/drag-...-k-members.htmlhttp://www.qa1.net/qa1_motorsports/drag-...ntrol-arms.html
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Re: QA1 Suspension R & D
[Re: Viol8r]
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02/12/13 09:48 PM
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Does it use factory torsion bars or it set up for coil overs?
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Re: QA1 Suspension R & D
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02/12/13 10:23 PM
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2nd picture in the 2nd link shows the lowers to be torsion bar sockets.
Tom
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Re: QA1 Suspension R & D
[Re: 67autocross]
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02/13/13 01:21 AM
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2nd picture in the 2nd link shows the lowers to be torsion bar sockets.
Found them! Someone was selling ones like them for drag racing a while back.
I would like to see if that stuff is any lighter than the stock k-member, lower and upper control arms. I would guduhess that the weight reduction would be the main advantage.
Many advantages over stock. Weight being they first, rigidity second, adjustability third
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Re: QA1 Suspension R & D
[Re: Viol8r]
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02/13/13 01:29 AM
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Keep us posted as you install and test the parts, have you started putting them on the car yet?
Thanks
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Re: QA1 Suspension R & D
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02/14/13 12:44 AM
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the tubular lcas look like a knock off of a set a guy on fabo made a while back.
Knock off or not, this will be a little different situation with a corporation backing the development. I think the tubular lower has been begging for some new ideas....lets see how it looks.
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Re: QA1 Suspension R & D
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02/15/13 03:21 AM
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taking requests?
id like to see a sans motor mount version thats a touch cheeper for engine plate cars,and sphericle strut rod connections.i think both would help sales with drag racers especially strut rod connection.
This is a fair point. I believe there answer would be that there K-Member can handle a solid motor mount situation minus the Plate. I think this was most likely developed with a pro-street/ drag racing mentality as it only excepts E-body and 70+ B-body sway bars. They are only 1 1/4", and that is not going to work for me. We are already going to have to talk about how to remedy this.
When I have my initial technical sitdown with QA1, I will raise this point regarding full drag set-ups with plates and see if they are even considering this. As far as the Strut arm is concerned there are several options out there that are much more aggressive then stock. Firm Feel, Hotchkis, etc. Thanks for the input.
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Re: QA1 Suspension R & D
[Re: ThermoQuad]
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02/27/13 09:36 AM
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Marty I hope this turns into a good deal. QA1 seems to be a pretty sharp company that puts quality ahead of profit. Their shocks and rod ends are good stuff.
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Re: QA1 Suspension R & D
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02/27/13 12:51 PM
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I am just a dummy on here so please explain how this is better than a welded/reinforced K frame?
Have you tested it's "flex" against a stock and welded reinforced K frame? How did you test it? Show us some results.
The K frame is a very integral part of a cars ability to resist flex.
Lighter does not necessarily mean better.
It's not about the money, it's about improving the cars.
Is this a real improvement?
Weight saving to induce more flex is not an option.
What are the weight differences?
Since we don't know each other I thought I should share with you the car I built in the pic. Yes it has a welded/reinforced K frame and more but no roll cage. It eats SRT8 Challengers on the road course with ease.
So tell me how this new idea will improve lap times?
Tom- Let me start by saying I have not sat down with QA1 yet to stragetize the final development on this product, nor do I have the unit in front of me. So I am not going to guess on technical information that I just don't have.
I run a fairly quick car myself and have 0 welding done to the K-member so I am quite excited to see what it has to offer over the R & R of a 50 year old unit.
The flex numbers will have to be something that I can test once the old and new are sitting next to each other. How do I test this?....I don't know, how did you test your welded K-member? Science or seat of the pants??
The unit is designed to except Rack and Pinion, tubular lower and upper CA's, so obviously there won't be many similarities between the two but, I agree, the overall strength is an important part of the car. Let's also remember not everyone is out here to race their car, but to be allowed to use some more modern technology on the car to make it drive better in non-performance situations. This unit may take care of both situations, we will see.
There are still a lot of questions I need answered myself, so once I get to that point with QA1, I will share what I know.
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Re: QA1 Suspension R & D
[Re: 72Swinger]
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02/27/13 12:55 PM
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Marty I hope this turns into a good deal. QA1 seems to be a pretty sharp company that puts quality ahead of profit. Their shocks and rod ends are good stuff.
I agree with this. I believe we have to at least give them a shot at it. If we just assume all companies can't figure this out then our kids will still be welding k-members for there cars in 20 years.....I for one appreciate any company that goes out on limb to develop Mopar parts, its not easy wall to break through.....i.e. see earlier posts.
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Re: QA1 Suspension R & D
[Re: Viol8r]
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02/27/13 01:18 PM
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So it will be tube k member with rack steering with torsion bars? That could be a nice set up, do you have a time line as to when you will be starting on this?
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Re: QA1 Suspension R & D
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02/27/13 01:24 PM
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So it will be tube k member with rack steering with torsion bars? That could be a nice set up, do you have a time line as to when you will be starting on this?
Yes that is correct. Rack and pinion with Tubular structure and torsion bars. I was a bit surprised by the torsion bars still in the design, but with a good shock and the right balance, sky is the limit.
I received notification a few weeks ago that they finalizing the contract. I suspect we should hear something this week.
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