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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/15/13 08:07 PM
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Noted... I hear the '69 Coronet quarters are some of the best parts AMD makes. Which makes the decision a little slanted towards replacement. Also thought that if the quarter was off, a full trunk floor could go in...
the outer wheelhouses are total garbage.
the quarters are just ok in my book.
if thats thier best 
they are not consistant to each other or to original panels.
one side has a larger lip on it then the other side does.
lets just say, you couldn't pass off amd metal as being original to me,i wouldn't even have to guess on it.
so its not that good. 
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/16/13 06:56 AM
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Noted... I hear the '69 Coronet quarters are some of the best parts AMD makes. Which makes the decision a little slanted towards replacement. Also thought that if the quarter was off, a full trunk floor could go in...
the outer wheelhouses are total garbage.
the quarters are just ok in my book.
if thats thier best
they are not consistant to each other or to original panels.
one side has a larger lip on it then the other side does.
lets just say, you couldn't pass off amd metal as being original to me,i wouldn't even have to guess on it.
so its not that good.
That's kinda scary. Hmmm. Guess I find someone who is really good at fixing sheet metal. Being a black car, it is going to take someone that has much more skill than I do(none!)
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
[Re: OhioMopar]
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02/16/13 08:51 AM
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Take a look at my car, I think this was the right choice for ME. Saving otherwise rust free quarters. There was old work that replaced the wheel lip are that was tucked under, tacked and mudded. I am trying to decide if I should replace wheel tubs? inners are bad, outers wouls need some hours to fix lip area. Easier to replace unless a BIG headache with new AMD? This is a 69 road runner, not coronet...
Anyone work with the road runner wheel tubs??
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/16/13 08:56 AM
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here's a few more, check out the a12mopar site for more in project car section under Chop, cut, rebuild....http://a12mopar.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?num=1359492964/30#30
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/16/13 08:59 AM
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3. Full AMD floor pan fit well
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/16/13 09:06 AM
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this was an old race car if you haven't heard the story, alot of non-rust related surgery required....
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/16/13 10:12 AM
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Noted... I hear the '69 Coronet quarters are some of the best parts AMD makes. Which makes the decision a little slanted towards replacement. Also thought that if the quarter was off, a full trunk floor could go in...
the outer wheelhouses are total garbage.
the quarters are just ok in my book.
if thats thier best
they are not consistant to each other or to original panels.
one side has a larger lip on it then the other side does.
lets just say, you couldn't pass off amd metal as being original to me,i wouldn't even have to guess on it.
so its not that good.
That's kinda scary. Hmmm. Guess I find someone who is really good at fixing sheet metal. Being a black car, it is going to take someone that has much more skill than I do(none!)
the differance between me and most people is
i have another superbee/car to compare to at anytime.
most people don't have that luxury.
to make the metal fit close to original requires alot of work.
if i didn't have another car to compare
i would be saying amd fits great like everyone else does 
heck, goodmark makes a more accurate looking dutchman panel
then amd does for the bbodies..
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
[Re: flypaper]
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02/16/13 10:23 AM
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Fly,
Have you heard any feedback on the road runner Outer wheel houses? I would really like to change the inners with new. Outers can be saved, but only if it is a matter of the new outers for rr's being a bad fit?
Ed
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/16/13 12:52 PM
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Noted... I hear the '69 Coronet quarters are some of the best parts AMD makes. Which makes the decision a little slanted towards replacement. Also thought that if the quarter was off, a full trunk floor could go in...
the outer wheelhouses are total garbage.
the quarters are just ok in my book.
if thats thier best
they are not consistant to each other or to original panels.
one side has a larger lip on it then the other side does.
lets just say, you couldn't pass off amd metal as being original to me,i wouldn't even have to guess on it.
so its not that good.
That's kinda scary. Hmmm. Guess I find someone who is really good at fixing sheet metal. Being a black car, it is going to take someone that has much more skill than I do(none!)
the differance between me and most people is
i have another superbee/car to compare to at anytime.
most people don't have that luxury.
to make the metal fit close to original requires alot of work.
if i didn't have another car to compare
i would be saying amd fits great like everyone else does
heck, goodmark makes a more accurate looking dutchman panel
then amd does for the bbodies..
Ugh. Want another Bee? This is not confidence inspiring information...
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
[Re: flypaper]
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02/16/13 03:26 PM
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Unfortunately, I am going to have to use the whole quarter. A pretty good hit in a past life has resulted in a quarter made mostly of bondo and an outer wheel house with dents banged out with a sledge hammer.
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/16/13 04:41 PM
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Fly,
Have you heard any feedback on the road runner Outer wheel houses? I would really like to change the inners with new. Outers can be saved, but only if it is a matter of the new outers for rr's being a bad fit?
Ed
The 69 gtx I'm working on has new outer and for whatever reason the rear half of the inners. I didn't fit them, but it looks likes the outers were modified some on the back lip to quarter. Sliced so they could be reshaped. It also has full amd quarters... which you would think should fit perfect. Otherwise I don't see any major modifications to them.
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/16/13 05:47 PM
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Where were they sliced?
Thanks,
Ed
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Re: Saving sheet metal?
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02/16/13 11:37 PM
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Fly,
Have you heard any feedback on the road runner Outer wheel houses? I would really like to change the inners with new. Outers can be saved, but only if it is a matter of the new outers for rr's being a bad fit?
Ed
Ed
my only experiance is with the dodge wheelhouses
i'm sure you read my story on the a12 board
amd has retooled the dodge out wheelhouses a few times
when they first made it
it was originally made from a 4 door wheelhouse 
they did not know it was different from a 2dr 
i've had my run around with amd over it.
it has been retooled since then.probably a few times
it still sucks.
the main problem with it was the lip was 3/4 of a inch short of the radius of the quarter to mate to it.
we ended up splicing in a lip from a 4 door wheelhouse we had,
so we could extend the wheelhouse lip to make it line up to the quarter lip just like the other car was.
it would be hard to predict what you will find in your car
its hard to really get a grip on it until your knee deep.
the best thing i had going for me was another car for reference.
if i could save the original outers i would by all means.
if its not possible, make the amd fit.
you might have to add or take away metal
somewhere but it will work.
it is alot better then a flat piece of steel and a hammer 
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