518 overdrive into E body?
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Any cutting involved to install a 518 into a 70 Cuda with a 360? also, what is the best year transmission to get that has the least electronics? Is there a non-lockup 518 transmission? Can a 727 torque convertor be used? Thanks.
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Re: 518 overdrive into E body?
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Yes, some cutting and welding will be required. Even though there's a bit more room for this swap in an e-body than an a-body, some surgery will be required for the transmission mount and crossmember. If you use the 46RH, hydraulically controlled transmission, you can control it with readily available solenoid set-ups. These solenoids kits will also control the lock-up torque converter, which you'll probably want to run because it makes a significant difference in overall efficiency. While you're building your transmission, there are several component that can be upgraded to significantly improve its durability including using a heavier duty lock-up torque converter with the appropriate stall speed. Check out the kits near the bottom of this long page. http://www.transmissioncenter.net/dodge.htm
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Re: 518 overdrive into E body?
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Wild R/T put one in an E body , there is a thread somewhere showing the pictures , he cut a couple large rids off the side of the OD to minimize any cutting on the car .
Yes there is a non lockup 518 , you want something for a late 80's pickup , you have to fab a mount , pay attention to drivetrain angle . You'll have to come up with a way to switch OD in and out , there is threads about that also using vac switches , Lockup can be your friend also.
I think a 727 convertor will fit a non lockup 518 . I never tried it but I wonder if the front half of a 727 and would fit , but you'll need to find a non lockup valve body
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Re: 518 overdrive into E body?
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No cutting of the body required! Check this thread out on cuda-challenger. This pretty much explains it all: http://www.cuda-challenger.com/cc/index.php?topic=23678.0There are other posts on this as well. As far as which unit, right now would be the 46RH if you want the lock up converter (better MPG) I think it is 92-95. Non L.U. is harder to find. Hooziewhatzit is in the process of making a controller for the 46RE, which is 97 and newer electronic version. I am waiting to see if he gets it working before I get my trans. There is a post it Q & A about it.
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Re: 518 overdrive into E body?
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As was mentioned earlier, be sure to maintain the driveline angle when doing the installation. It can be tempting to simply lower the tail end of the transmission to clear the crossmember, but that can cause issues. If you can get it to fit with just trimming the case, that would be very nice.
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Re: 518 overdrive into E body?
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I lopped the tabs off, there was nothing structural about them.. I also cut away the webbing that interferes with the torsion bar crossmember..
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Re: 518 overdrive into E body?
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Those two points only hit sheetmetal not the torsion bar crossmember, I raised the trans into position & used a prybar to slightly shift the sheet metal, (less than 1/2") no hammering, no cutting, nothing I consider worth being concerned about..
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Re: 518 overdrive into E body?
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Those two points only hit sheetmetal not the torsion bar crossmember, I raised the trans into position & used a prybar to slightly shift the sheet metal, (less than 1/2") no hammering, no cutting, nothing I consider worth being concerned about..
You dented the floor ??? ON AN E BODY MOPAR ??????
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