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Home porting 5.7 hemi heads for Dummies? #1382007
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Well, I have this set of 5.7 heads from an early (2006?) motor, and would like to clean them up a bit. But as the title of the post says, I don't know much about these heads, or porting.
So the plan is to get what info I can here, and tread very lightly with the die grinder. Anybody care to share?
My thoughts are don't change any general shapes, just clean them up and remove any ridges left by machining operations. Because this is going to be a carbed motor, I plan on leaving the ports on the intake side rough, using as course as a sanding role as I can find. The heads will then get sent out for a valve job with stock valves.


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Re: Home porting 5.7 hemi heads for Dummies? [Re: gregsdart] #1382008
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No expert and planning the same thing.
These heads are supposed to be easy because there is no short turn.
One of the reasons they flow so well.
Dulich (sp) did a set, spent little time and basically cleaned them up. They respond very well to a little porting.
And before everybody jumps on me saying there is a lot more to porting than that. I agree just the new hemi would be easier.

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These are great for what you are planning to do. Summit does not stock the sanding rolls but if ordered will get them to you on the 18th. If you are just shaping and cleaning up the ports they will give you a nice finish.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/sai-716296/overview/

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Re: Home porting 5.7 hemi heads for Dummies? [Re: gregsdart] #1382010
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Here's a cross section if that helps. The head was cut after a pocket port.


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A couple pic's of what was taken out with the die grinder.


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Here's a cross section if that helps. The head was cut after a pocket port.




I guess there is no pushrod buldge in the older 5.7 heads? Nice cutaway


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Exhaust port. Don't touch the floor.


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thanks guys. So if I see things right, I can thin down the guides, leave the short sides alone, clean up the rest and they ought to work fine with my .580 lift cam. I assume, that due to time at max lift there just isn't much to be gained concerning flow numbers above about .550, and being a street type motor no increase in port volume other than absolutely needed. These are going on a 380 cube 5.7 block motor.

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thanks guys. So if I see things right, I can thin down the guides, leave the short sides alone, clean up the rest and they ought to work fine with my .580 lift cam. I assume, that due to time at max lift there just isn't much to be gained concerning flow numbers above about .550, and being a street type motor no increase in port volume other than absolutely needed. These are going on a 380 cube 5.7 block motor.




have you put any thought into useing the Eagle head? smaller chamber, larger port and a beautiful casting stock? and same size port as the intakes being made by Ritter

my sandrolled Eagles

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my exhaust port


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thanks guys. So if I see things right, I can thin down the guides, leave the short sides alone, clean up the rest and they ought to work fine with my .580 lift cam. I assume, that due to time at max lift there just isn't much to be gained concerning flow numbers above about .550, and being a street type motor no increase in port volume other than absolutely needed. These are going on a 380 cube 5.7 block motor.




Greg, Another view of the hand ported G3 intake port.


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thanks guys. So if I see things right, I can thin down the guides, leave the short sides alone, clean up the rest and they ought to work fine with my .580 lift cam. I assume, that due to time at max lift there just isn't much to be gained concerning flow numbers above about .550, and being a street type motor no increase in port volume other than absolutely needed. These are going on a 380 cube 5.7 block motor.




Greg, Another view of the hand ported G3 intake port.




Jerry, taking pics without the flash on is key. you have nice pics on your website of them CNC'ed


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Purdy! What valve sizes?

Here's a pic of the very first and only 5.7 closed chamber G3 Hemi heads. Yeah I had the quench pads welded up.

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stock valves. someday I want to do a manley valve upgrade with dual valve springs and a real cam


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Here are some pics of what we did to a set of 09 Eagles. Can't talk about the combination, but these are truly one step below an all out race head. Like a stage 3 street head.


















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Very Nice! did you use a buffer on the chambers?


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Very Nice! did you use a buffer on the chambers?




It's a micropolished chamber. It takes a little bit of work, but well worth the time.


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stock valves. someday I want to do a manley valve upgrade with dual valve springs and a real cam




The stock exhaust valve actually flow'a quite nicely.


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Very Nice! did you use a buffer on the chambers?




It's a micropolished chamber. It takes a little bit of work, but well worth the time.




Why? You should try back to back dyno testing that finish with a burr finish...even if power stays the same, your bsfc's will be better and the engine will use less fuel. Just an FYI...
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Our valve job using Manley 2.08 x 1.57 valves on an Eagle head:

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