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Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? #1380349 02/02/13 01:19 PM 02/02/13 01:19 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,226 Cookeville Chilort OP Will Work For Mopars
Chilort OP Will Work For Mopars Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,226 Cookeville	I am thinking of getting an aluminum big block water pump housing. It looks like there are 3 options: Mopar for $180 at Summit, Sumit's house brand for $145, and 440Source for $65. Needless to say, there is a pretty big price difference between these water pump housings. I remember a few years back that people were having trouble with the 440Source housings because the passages were too small. Is that still the case or did they fix the problem? What about Summit's house brand? Or is this another case where I need to buy original and just take the punishment to my wallet?

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: Chilort] #1380350 02/02/13 01:25 PM 02/02/13 01:25 PM
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frank top fuel F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,138 tucson az	The 440 source housing water temp probe location is on the drivers side of the housing (at least mine is) May be an issue with stock wire harness. Maybe new housings have location on passenger side??

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: Chilort] #1380351 02/02/13 01:28 PM 02/02/13 01:28 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,819 Kirkland, Washington Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts
Pacnorthcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 21,819 Kirkland, Washington	I use a source housing. The issue comes down to using a good water pump whose impeller comes CLOSE to the housing but still clearances. And spin the pump at the right speed (right pulley diameters). Don't buy sources pump with the cast impeller...it's garbage IMO If the rest of the system is up to par, radiator,fan,shroud etc, you'll be fine

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1380352 02/02/13 01:36 PM 02/02/13 01:36 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,226 Cookeville Chilort OP Will Work For Mopars
Chilort OP Will Work For Mopars Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,226 Cookeville	I am using both a Milodon high flow pump and high flow t-stat. I use stock '68 pulleys. I have seen the threads on checking the clearance. I will do that when I put this thing together again for sure!

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: Chilort] #1380353 02/02/13 01:46 PM 02/02/13 01:46 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,226 Cookeville Chilort OP Will Work For Mopars
Chilort OP Will Work For Mopars Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,226 Cookeville	Has anyone gone to work with their sanding roles to open up the 440Source housing? Time is money though.

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: Chilort] #1380354 02/02/13 02:18 PM 02/02/13 02:18 PM
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fuseable super stock F Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 766 Midwest	Watch the E-Bag, I was able to pick up a new Mopar housing for 100.00.

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: fuseable] #1380355 02/02/13 04:57 PM 02/02/13 04:57 PM
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astjp2 master Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 4,785 Utah and Alaska	I found a mopar pump and housing on the bag for $186. There are deals if you are patient. 1941 Taylorcraft 1968 Charger 1994 Wrangler 1998 Wrangler 2008 Kia Rio 2017 Jetta I didn't do 4 years and 9 months of Graduate School to be called Mister!

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: frank] #1380356 02/02/13 06:50 PM 02/02/13 06:50 PM
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DANA60 mopar Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 616 TP Exit 7, NJ, USA	Quote: The 440 source housing water temp probe location is on the drivers side of the housing (at least mine is) May be an issue with stock wire harness. Maybe new housings have location on passenger side?? Me too on the temp sender. You'll have to splice wire in to make it longer. 7572094-IMG_3514_1_1.JPG (322 downloads)

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: DANA60] #1380357 02/02/13 07:38 PM 02/02/13 07:38 PM
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BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,311 Prospect, PA	Quote: Quote: The 440 source housing water temp probe location is on the drivers side of the housing (at least mine is) May be an issue with stock wire harness. Maybe new housings have location on passenger side?? Me too on the temp sender. You'll have to splice wire in to make it longer. Or simply drill and tap the housing on the passenger side.

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: BSB67] #1380358 02/02/13 07:45 PM 02/02/13 07:45 PM
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BEINGmeISaCRIME mopar Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 492 Kansas	I have the mancini pump and housing on my 440 and so far so good. http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mabhealwapu1.html Also reasonably priced

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: BEINGmeISaCRIME] #1380359 02/02/13 07:51 PM 02/02/13 07:51 PM
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fourgearsavoy I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,552 Rittman Ohio	Quote: I have the mancini pump and housing on my 440 and so far so good. http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mabhealwapu1.html Also reasonably priced I got the whole package they sell with the pump and it all works EXCEPT the leaky chrome water neck Gus 7572160-5434258-READY2.JPG (169 downloads) 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1380360 02/02/13 08:34 PM 02/02/13 08:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 492 Kansas BEINGmeISaCRIME mopar
BEINGmeISaCRIME mopar Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 492 Kansas	Quote: Quote: I have the mancini pump and housing on my 440 and so far so good. http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mabhealwapu1.html Also reasonably priced I got the whole package they sell with the pump and it all works EXCEPT the leaky chrome water neck Gus I got the same package, on my engine I've only had dyno time but the chrome thermostat housing hasn't leaked yet I prolly also shouldn't say chrome since I have since elminated the chrome and painted it hemi orange.

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1380361 02/02/13 09:26 PM 02/02/13 09:26 PM
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RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: Don't buy sources pump with the cast impeller...it's garbage IMO I have a new pump with the "scroll" impeller with the curved blades & I think it has CAT cast into the body. Is that the bad one? live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: BEINGmeISaCRIME] #1380362 02/02/13 10:03 PM 02/02/13 10:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,439 So Cal Sinitro master
Sinitro master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,439 So Cal	Quote: Quote: Quote: I have the mancini pump and housing on my 440 and so far so good. http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mabhealwapu1.html Also reasonably priced I got the whole package they sell with the pump and it all works EXCEPT the leaky chrome water neck Gus I got the same package, on my engine I've only had dyno time but the chrome thermostat housing hasn't leaked yet I prolly also shouldn't say chrome since I have since elminated the chrome and painted it hemi orange. That chrome one is a junker and will leak.. Go to Napa ask for #BK 6051051, its like $6 is cast like the OE one... Just my $0.02... 7572329-230475.jpg (131 downloads)

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: RapidRobert] #1380363 02/02/13 10:04 PM 02/02/13 10:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,439 So Cal Sinitro master
Sinitro master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,439 So Cal	Quote: Quote: Don't buy sources pump with the cast impeller...it's garbage IMO I have a new pump with the "scroll" impeller with the curved blades & I think it has CAT cast into the body. Is that the bad one? Dump those and get the one from Mancini... Just my $0.02...

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: Sinitro] #1380364 02/02/13 10:18 PM 02/02/13 10:18 PM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,226 Cookeville Chilort OP Will Work For Mopars
Chilort OP Will Work For Mopars Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,226 Cookeville	Some information I just received from off the board suggests the CAT housing and 440Source housing are similar. I've never held them in my hands so I will admit I am going by hearsay. I have also been told the Mancini part, which I had forgotten about, is good. That price looks great too. Both the CAT and 440Source housings can be opened up.

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: Sinitro] #1380365 02/03/13 12:15 AM 02/03/13 12:15 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 492 Kansas BEINGmeISaCRIME mopar
BEINGmeISaCRIME mopar Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 492 Kansas	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: I have the mancini pump and housing on my 440 and so far so good. http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mabhealwapu1.html Also reasonably priced I got the whole package they sell with the pump and it all works EXCEPT the leaky chrome water neck Gus I got the same package, on my engine I've only had dyno time but the chrome thermostat housing hasn't leaked yet I prolly also shouldn't say chrome since I have since elminated the chrome and painted it hemi orange. That chrome one is a junker and will leak.. Go to Napa ask for #BK 6051051, its like $6 is cast like the OE one... Just my $0.02... OR I could always go this route http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mabialwane.html

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: BEINGmeISaCRIME] #1380366 02/03/13 12:22 AM 02/03/13 12:22 AM
Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,226 Cookeville Chilort OP Will Work For Mopars
Chilort OP Will Work For Mopars Joined: Sep 2004 Posts: 1,226 Cookeville	I used the chrome neck from Mopar before. I have one word: junk. Anything but that POS is an improvement.

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: Chilort] #1380367 02/03/13 12:48 AM 02/03/13 12:48 AM
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rowin4 master Joined: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,257 gulfport, ms, west mi	I bought the 440 Source aluminum housing and pump years ago , never had a problem with over heating, bolted on with no problems. Use a after market gage so I don't know about the sensor location problem if there really is one. it's ok to butt heads, just don't do it with a butthead

Re: Aluminum BB water pump housing comparisons? [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1380368 02/03/13 01:49 AM 02/03/13 01:49 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md 3 383man Too Many Posts
383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	Quote: Quote: I have the mancini pump and housing on my 440 and so far so good. http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/mabhealwapu1.html Also reasonably priced I got the whole package they sell with the pump and it all works EXCEPT the leaky chrome water neck Gus Same hear as Mancini told me it was their parts but it looks just like the MP without the MP emblem on it. And yes the chrome thermo housing leaked and is junk. I just used my old housing as I painted it all Max Wedge orange. Ron

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