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someone far more knowledgeable than i mentioned a high ratio gear set (low numerically) for dana 60. the lowest i'm finding is 3.54. i'd settle for low 3's, but a ratio in the 2's would be ideal. anyone ever seen such a thing?
for what is the good life if not doing things thoughtfully?
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In my research on this topic Ford made a 3.31 ring and pinion and this is the lowest I've ever heard of.
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Just a guess here, but it could act like it was a little stronger. The reasoning is the true rule of thumb that the larger the gear ratio the less torque it can handle. So even if a D60 and a D61 are almost exactly the same, the 3.23 gearset will handle more torque than a 4.10.
I think the D61 is an interesting piece that should be looked into farther.
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The gear ratio is one indication. Do a search on the 61 and 71 in google. There are some guys out there in the offroad forums that have researched it. Tim
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From Bill Vista What's the deal with the Dana 61? With mileage and emissions concerns rising, at some point Dodge and / or Ford decided they wanted to be able to offer gears higher than the current highest ratio of 3.54 available in the D60. However, because of the design of the D60 the pinion head could not be made big enough to achieve a higher ratio. Hence, the birth of the Dana 61, which has a different casting that moves the pinion over 0.25"-0.437" (conflicting reports) - this allowed for a 3.07 axle ratio. The Dana 61 also uses 3.5" axle tubes. Other than that, it is very similar to the Dana 60. The Dana 61 was common in Dodge front ends and Ford van rears. The difficulty with the Dana 61 is very limited gear and locker choices. However, you can use a combination of ring gear spacer and thick gear set to allow the use of differentials and gear sets intended for the Dana 60. Slagburn reports: to run a 4.88 I had to go with series 3 carrier, series 1 being 4.10 and down, series 2 being 4.56 and up, then the series 3. PLUS a .160" spacer. That's the problem, nobody makes a full case locker for a 61, but it could be doable with a thick ring gearset AND a spacer. Reider racing< Randy's R&P, and other sources make ring gear spacers for the Dana 61 . http://www.reiderracing.com/ringspacer.htm
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i emailed the redoubtable dr. diff, and he said nfg on the low ratios. time to start saving for a gearvendors o/d, i suppose. anything but run a 9".
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i emailed the redoubtable dr. diff, and he said nfg on the low ratios. time to start saving for a gearvendors o/d, i suppose. anything but run a 9".
i'm going with an auto for now to get my car on the road. my dana has 3.73's in it. i originally thought about saving for a gear vendor setup. however ... the 727's are very bad for gas mileage. you lose about 30%.
so what i'm saving for is a complete keisler 5 speed kit. it comes with everything.... bell housing, flywheel, clutch, pedals, hydralic cylinder, the tranny. everything you would need. has a .64 overdrive.
i know it's probably a couple thou more than the gear vendors, but the mileage will be waaaaay better
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