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Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: basketcase] #1376174
04/20/14 11:39 PM
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Another update. Over the weekend I replaced the headlight adjusters on the drivers side fender, put a dipstick and tube in, changed plugs, finished up the exhaust, installed the turn signal lever that didn't get done when I moved the car before, removed the power steering for some work to the pump and a new hose install, and drove it!
There were downsides. It still needs timed and the carb needs adjusted. Right now the pump shot, I think. The nose needs raised because turns to the left grab the wheel opening molding on the left fender. It makes a terrible noise. It needs rear springs because, well, they are 45 years old and the thing will look like a quad if I bring the front up. I need to gget a good ground on the tail lights. The turn signals don't work at all in the back. I need to put bulbs in the dash.
But the worst part of the day, I had the fan hit the plastic cover on the washer pump wire and knock off the cover. On my last spin today, the car ran like it was on a rev limiter and once it cleared up, the ammeter was no longer charging. When I got home I popped the hood and the new wiring harness I bought last August was charred and the wrap melted. The washer pump wire blew over and shorted the blue field wire to the case of the alternator and fried the harness. So there is another $105 lesson to me. Tape up the wires not being used.
It doesn't run as strong as I know it's capable of, but I'm driving it. That's a start. The hard part is over. Now it's time to get everything broken in and keep chipping away at the little stuff! I couldn't be happier! (Well, if I hadn't shorted the harness, I could be happier...)


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Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: OhioMopar] #1376175
04/21/14 02:34 AM
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sucks about the wires, but at least you can drive it. that'll keep you motovated. when I got my road runner it sat low in the back like a Challenger. One of the POs was supposed to have raced it, and i think that's whay it only had four leaves in the back. we stuck in another main, and a couple partials. sits real nice(I like the back end up) and a buddy had the springs, so all it cost me was a trip the local big truck dealer for new u bolts and center bolts.

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Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: basketcase] #1376176
04/21/14 01:01 PM
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That's cool! I would like to get mine straight and in primer at some point. Right now I just want to get it reliable and screaming...


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Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: OhioMopar] #1376177
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Some weekend progress.














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Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: OhioMopar] #1376178
04/21/14 01:17 PM
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Power steering leak located.
O-ring dried out. Amazing that was the only place leaking.





1969 Dart GTS 340
1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: OhioMopar] #1376179
04/27/14 11:31 PM
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Videos.



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Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: OhioMopar] #1376180
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Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: basketcase] #1376181
04/28/14 04:38 PM
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Nice work your coming right along!
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Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: mattsmopars] #1376182
04/29/14 11:16 AM
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Nice work your coming right along!
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Yes! I have some more things lined up for the near future. I have three weeks to make it fairly reliable...


1969 Dart GTS 340
1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: OhioMopar] #1376183
04/29/14 07:44 PM
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Stay on it!! Driving these things is the most important part. Make it safe and reliable. The rest is not critical to enjoying the car.


Old, tired, and sometimes broke down. Me, not my car...
Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: Shoozy] #1376184
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Stay on it!! Driving these things is the most important part. Make it safe and reliable. The rest is not critical to enjoying the car.



Absolutely. Driving it threw gasoline mixed with nitroglycerin on my fire to get it going...
I am collecting front end parts and have someone to rebuild the front end for me. I'll be doing the front and rear shocks/springs/bushings torsion bars, the power steering pump (I know, I know. That's how it came) and change out the 3.23's for 3.91's while adding a new sure grip and I'm done working on it . I'll be driving it!


1969 Dart GTS 340
1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: OhioMopar] #1376185
04/29/14 10:37 PM
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Stay on it!! Driving these things is the most important part. Make it safe and reliable. The rest is not critical to enjoying the car.



Absolutely. Driving it threw gasoline mixed with nitroglycerin on my fire to get it going...
I am collecting front end parts and have someone to rebuild the front end for me. I'll be doing the front and rear shocks/springs/bushings torsion bars, the power steering pump (I know, I know. That's how it came) and change out the 3.23's for 3.91's while adding a new sure grip and I'm done working on it . I'll be driving it!




How tall are your rear tires? The 3.91s in my '70 made long freeway drives rather unpleasant and pricey even running 275-60-15s. Something to keep in mind 'cause I know you want to drive the heck out of it. Too bad you're so far away you could roll it in here and we'd knock all that out in short order. We could even change out the steering box.


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Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: Shoozy] #1376186
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Stay on it!! Driving these things is the most important part. Make it safe and reliable. The rest is not critical to enjoying the car.



Absolutely. Driving it threw gasoline mixed with nitroglycerin on my fire to get it going...
I am collecting front end parts and have someone to rebuild the front end for me. I'll be doing the front and rear shocks/springs/bushings torsion bars, the power steering pump (I know, I know. That's how it came) and change out the 3.23's for 3.91's while adding a new sure grip and I'm done working on it . I'll be driving it!




How tall are your rear tires? The 3.91s in my '70 made long freeway drives rather unpleasant and pricey even running 275-60-15s. Something to keep in mind 'cause I know you want to drive the heck out of it. Too bad you're so far away you could roll it in here and we'd knock all that out in short order. We could even change out the steering box.



It had 275/60/15 E.T. Streets on it. I may go with 3.55's, but I have the 3.91's now. I think the 3.23 would be okay, but I think the sure grip is shot and I have to get in there, anyway. We'll see how it shakes out. I had a '70 Dart with 3.91's and a much shorter tire, and I didn't mind the rpm it turned at 70. But that was about 15 miles at the most... Not many hours to Woodward, Carlisle, etc.


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1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: OhioMopar] #1376187
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my last road runner had 3.55s. 2756015 tire. I cruised I 70 at 70 no sweet going to Columbus. The one before that had 3.91s, with 235s IIRC, it was tached out at 60. OK local, but not on the highway. I have 3.23s in this one, and it's a good all around ratio.


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I've never been a fan of 3.23's.3.55 has alwaysbeen my first choice.


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2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: OhioMopar] #1376189
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Took it for a ride a bit ago. Needs some carb work. Nose raised. Turn signal switch. But I can power shift it into third... Important stuff.
I really don't like the 3.23. I can also tell it needs some more tuning. It hooks hard between gears. I was kind of surprised it won't turn a tire, though. I'm pretty sure a 383 that went 11's should he able to turn the tires, drag radials or not.


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1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: OhioMopar] #1376190
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I was kind of surprised it won't turn a tire, though. I'm pretty sure a 383 that went 11's should he able to turn the tires, drag radials or not.




Probably that PS pump dragging it down. Told ya so.


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I was kind of surprised it won't turn a tire, though. I'm pretty sure a 383 that went 11's should he able to turn the tires, drag radials or not.




Probably that PS pump dragging it down. Told ya so.



That's most likely not it. The power steering pump is laying on the work bench in pieces...
It's probably in the tuning..


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2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
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Re: Triple Black Bee [Re: OhioMopar] #1376192
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gotta be the tuning. My 383 can turn my tires just about anytime. My rear has no tag(naturally) but it feels like 3.23s to me.


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gotta be the tuning. My 383 can turn my tires just about anytime. My rear has no tag(naturally) but it feels like 3.23s to me.



I counted the revolutions when I was under the car. I know it's a 3.23. I'll get a jet/squirter/accelerator can kit this week.It starts well and hadn't gotten hot yet, so the timing is close.


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1969 Super Bee X9 N-96
1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96
2015 Dodge Dart GT
2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn.
Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449
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