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Triple Black Bee
Posted By: OhioMopar
Triple Black Bee - 01/26/13 09:44 AM
Well, I have had a little time to organize my pictures and start going over the game plan on my new purchase. I couldn't be happier. Surprisingly, it is probably the roughest body I have bought in a long, long time. The good thing is that when I say that, it still means that it is a body out of Georgia, not out of Ohio. So the rough stuff is mostly up top. It does need lower quarters, lower sectoins of the extensions(doubtful I will replace the whole extension(s). It will need a couple patches in the trunk floor, at the top of the right quarter, in the drivers floor pan, under the battery tray, and probably about 20,0000 hours of blocking, sanding, and blocking and sanding again! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shock.gif" alt="" />
My game plan: get the brakes done. Go through the steering/bushings/rear springs/shocks. New wheels and tires. Fuel system replacement is next. Go through the trans, new seals in the rear axle, maybe change the gear, find a driveshaft, a flywheel, put a clutch in it, and find a 383(JohnRR is on that one, and hopefully we can get together on it), a radiator, and then drive the he!! out of it! I will get the body done as time and money comes available, but I don't want to do a complete tear down to do it. Probably start at the back and drop the tank and send it somewhere (possibly where I bought it) and have the everything rearward of the door post strikers done and sealed.
Here are some pics. Enjoy!
I'll add more as I have time... Just an idea of what I am working with.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/26/13 10:01 AM
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Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/26/13 11:34 AM
Now on to the problem areas.
The top of the quarter is a little holy... This and the lower portion makes me think very hard about replacing it with a factory style quarter. Especially when you add in the back window rust.
I'm guessing the whole window channel and dutchman panel as well as corners. But then again, it isn't apart yet. Preparing for the worst.
You can see the only piece of missing windshield molding I have to find. The car is pretty complete.
Someone added some really cool(not) aftermarket hood pins. Luckily for me, they are in the factory location. If it will look okay with a set of the right ones on it, I may leave pins on. Just not those.
Not sure if you can see the holes hacked in for the pins.
Air box is complete. Believe it or not the seal is kinda brittle.
Passenger door. I'm thinking of finding a set of rust free western doors. I think
those I should be able to find. Would like to replace the fenders, too, but they are probably made of the ultra-rare unobtanium.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/26/13 11:50 AM
Now residing in its new home until I get it roadworthy.
Gotta love the snow tires.
Missing one stud...
...make that three.
Ick.
Ick again.
Right front. Strangely, and I thought a got a picture, the left front had nothing but a wheel cylinder in it. It probably did not brake very even.
Progress!
Sorting and getting ready to clean up the parts to be reused.
Amazing the wheel cylinder still moved inside. Fluid was actually kinda clean. Got the bore measured and the first order of parts on the way. Time to clean up the backing plates before reassembly. No, not going to pull the axles to remove the plates. Will just clean them with a liberal amount of brake clean. Removing the axles will make a tiny snowball. Then the seals will need replaced while they are out and the snowball grows. Then with new seals and pretty backing plates there is no reason to put the old bearings back in, and man, those axle flanges look like crap! But then putting the nice backing plates on the ugly rear housing... Can't do that. Better strip it. Yep, that's how it would go. Best to just clean the plates and put the thing back together. Although I will most likely turn the drums and blast them. Maybe not in that order.
Stay tuned!
This looks like it will be a cool project!
Posted By: EK2Runner
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/26/13 03:18 PM
Nice ride you have there , Loving the Triple black
Did you find the sheet and does it have the tag ?
Posted By: scatpacktom
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/26/13 03:56 PM
Posted By: 70440+6bbl
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/26/13 04:14 PM
I love your Bee! Actually, it is junk, please let me know what you paid and I'll tack on a little to help you out of the mess you got yourself into
I did exactly what you are doing with both my Bee and my Swinger. Both cars had been off the road since the mid-'70's. I started with the fuel systems, then the brakes and drivetrains. They have been a real blast to beat around and folks love them as is!
Posted By: RUNCHARGER
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/26/13 05:33 PM
Nice option package!
Sheldon
Posted By: UCUDANT
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/26/13 05:50 PM
Nice bee, this will be fun to watch.
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I did exactly what you are doing with both my Bee and my Swinger. Both cars had been off the road since the mid-'70's. I started with the fuel systems, then the brakes and drivetrains. They have been a real blast to beat around and folks love them as is!
Ditto...my brakes are done and I'm about to go through the fuel system. Thanks to those of you who unknowingly help motivate me
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/26/13 06:00 PM
You got the attention of 'HemiChallenger'...
A few E-mails might be in order...
Posted By: MuuMuu101
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/26/13 06:15 PM
Back in Black I see...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/26/13 07:01 PM
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Nice ride you have there , Loving the Triple black Did you find the sheet and does it have the tag ?
Yes to both. I found on the sheet it was born with road wheels. Even cooler.
Try to respond to a couple posts by memory!
Thanks to both of you that did your cars in the same 'order' or with the same idea, anyway. I tried to do a whole ground up deal and was never really happy with the results. Or lack of.
Jerry, I might just have to slip a couple electronic correspondence in to esteemed Mr. Challenger. A lot of info to be had. Was just informed a package came today. Look like the first load of brake parts are here! 
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/26/13 07:06 PM
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I love your Bee! Actually, it is junk, please let me know what you paid and I'll tack on a little to help you out of the mess you got yourself into
I did exactly what you are doing with both my Bee and my Swinger. Both cars had been off the road since the mid-'70's. I started with the fuel systems, then the brakes and drivetrains. They have been a real blast to beat around and folks love them as is!
This I HAD to respond to. Funny you did an A12 and a Swinger. I'm getting into a 'normal' (although I've never seen a 3x black Bee before) Bee and a GTS. Both '69's.
Here is the Dart waiting its turn. I don't have any pics of them together yet. But I will eventually!
Oh, as for the purchase price... It doesn't matter. A Nigerian prince just emailed me and all of my money problems seem to be over! So no news to entertain offers on it! 
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/27/13 12:08 AM
nice score! yeah those aren't Ohio 1/4s. But sometimes you can't go by that. Mine came out of Michigan, and the 1/4s were junk, but surprisingly everything else is solid.
Posted By: 70440+6bbl
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/27/13 07:36 PM
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I love your Bee! Actually, it is junk, please let me know what you paid and I'll tack on a little to help you out of the mess you got yourself into
I did exactly what you are doing with both my Bee and my Swinger. Both cars had been off the road since the mid-'70's. I started with the fuel systems, then the brakes and drivetrains. They have been a real blast to beat around and folks love them as is!
This I HAD to respond to. Funny you did an A12 and a Swinger. I'm getting into a 'normal' (although I've never seen a 3x black Bee before) Bee and a GTS. Both '69's.
Here is the Dart waiting its turn. I don't have any pics of them together yet. But I will eventually!
Oh, as for the purchase price... It doesn't matter. A Nigerian prince just emailed me and all of my money problems seem to be over! So no news to entertain offers on it!
You have a great taste in cars 
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/27/13 07:57 PM
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I love your Bee! Actually, it is junk, please let me know what you paid and I'll tack on a little to help you out of the mess you got yourself into
I did exactly what you are doing with both my Bee and my Swinger. Both cars had been off the road since the mid-'70's. I started with the fuel systems, then the brakes and drivetrains. They have been a real blast to beat around and folks love them as is!
This I HAD to respond to. Funny you did an A12 and a Swinger. I'm getting into a 'normal' (although I've never seen a 3x black Bee before) Bee and a GTS. Both '69's.
Here is the Dart waiting its turn. I don't have any pics of them together yet. But I will eventually!
Oh, as for the purchase price... It doesn't matter. A Nigerian prince just emailed me and all of my money problems seem to be over! So no news to entertain offers on it!
You have a great taste in cars (like me;-)
Posted By: moparcyco
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/28/13 05:51 AM
That is sweet!Nothing better than a black B-body
I just painted mine black.I'll be watching this thread,Very cool car!Leaving it stock?Modified?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/28/13 10:41 AM
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That is sweet!Nothing better than a black B-body I just painted mine black.I'll be watching this thread,Very cool car!Leaving it stock?Modified?
I've been watching your thread closely! Your ride looks awesome!
For right now I'm going to put it together as frugally as possible. I have a set of cheap headers, but if I run across a set of manifolds reasonably I will probably run them. I'm rebuilding the stock 4-wheel drums and planning a switch to disk in the future. I'm trying to put together a fairly stock 383(really whatever I can find at a decent price) but I see a stroked 383 in the future. I won't do anything to change the outer appearance or the interior too much. It was coded for road wheels, so I will run 15" chrome Magnums. Probably replace the stripe delete with a white stripe. Put a vinyl top back on it. Interior mods won't be a lot. Maybe a cloth insert matching the factory pattern in the center of the seats so I don't burn my hind quarters on the hot vinyl all summer!! (Triple black. May be hot in the summer) probably do the seats and door panels in white. But that's about it. Some day:Dana, Hemi 4-speed, 496 stroker! Lol.
if thats the original paint, dont repaint it!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/28/13 06:31 PM
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if thats the original paint, dont repaint it!
It's not. There is mud under the paint around the window corners where someone tried to fix it. The right quartet had been worked. There is paint peeling all over the car with other black paint underneath. Don't know if I can get to the original paint, but my guess is there isn't much left. 
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/28/13 06:33 PM
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nice score! yeah those aren't Ohio 1/4s. But sometimes you can't go by that. Mine came out of Michigan, and the 1/4s were junk, but surprisingly everything else is solid.
There are exceptions to the rule! But not too many. Lol.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/28/13 06:38 PM
Small update. I got a small portion of the parts I ordered from Rockauto Saturday. Also went up The Right Stuff which is about 10 minutes from me and picked up a pre-bent rear axle line. So just waiting on the rest of my shipment and by the end of the week everything from the rubber hose back will be new and ready to go!
Posted By: 67polara
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/29/13 10:27 AM
Cool Bee
best of luck with the body repairs, will be watching
Posted By: NV69B7RR
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/31/13 04:53 AM
Cool Bee!! As much as I liked your Dart, you couldn't go wrong with swapping it for a Black Bee. I'll be watching this thread for sure!! Too bad you weren't closer, I've got an unfired, fresh from the machine shop 71 383 Magnum that I have no use for.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/31/13 02:13 PM
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Cool Bee!! As much as I liked your Dart, you couldn't go wrong with swapping it for a Black Bee. I'll be watching this thread for sure!! Too bad you weren't closer, I've got an unfired, fresh from the machine shop 71 383 Magnum that I have no use for.
Did I ever mention how much I like road trips!? Lol.
Wish I could keep them all, but it just isn't possible. Would have been pretty cool to see the yellow Dart sharing garage space with the Duster.
Hoping the rear shoes and whatever else I'm missing that I can't seem to remember gets here today so I can get some more done!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/01/13 05:01 AM
My first parts order is complete... Tomorrow I will be on my way to install it and get some more work done.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/26/13 01:07 AM
Spent some time under the car last night. I might need to replace the exhaust.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/26/13 01:11 AM
Possibly why there is no drive shaft with the car? Could be guessed that maybe it was why the engine expired as well. Maybe it wasn't just 'tired'.
Could possibly just be someone careless taking it apart.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/26/13 01:22 AM
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/26/13 01:34 AM
How 'bout them shocks?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/26/13 02:24 PM
Left side all cleaned up and ready for reinstallation.
Brake hose replaced.
Installed.
Also half of the stainless axle line set installed.
Left side back together.
Right side pulled apart.
Then cleaned and ready to reassemble.
Not very exciting stuff. But progress finally being made. Slow.
Also bought a repop woodgrain knob for the console shifter at the swap meet this weekend.
More work on it tomorrow.
Posted By: NV69B7RR
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/26/13 02:43 PM
I think those shocks must have come free with a set of slot mags!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/26/13 02:53 PM
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I think those shocks must have come free with a set of slot mags!
Almost seems like it! There are air lines wrapped around everything back there. Looks like you could almost wrap the car with lines. If they didn't crumble at your touch...
Posted By: mattsmopars
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/26/13 08:23 PM
Good looking Bee project you have going!
Matt
Posted By: Boosted
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/27/13 03:33 PM
Great Bee... I am glad you found the one you want.. We have the B5 bee sold now and the guy is going to pick it up on Friday...
Man did he get a deal..
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/27/13 05:33 PM
That's awesome. That's a good car. It had the colors I wanted. This one has the options I wanted.
If someone were to show up with a B-5 Bee with identical options and want to trade, that would cause some serious thought.
Where is the blue car headed?
Darin, Empty your PM's as it has exceeded it's level and I can't respond to your messages.
David
Posted By: MuuMuu101
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/01/13 07:48 AM
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I think those shocks must have come free with a set of slot mags!
Almost seems like it! There are air lines wrapped around everything back there. Looks like you could almost wrap the car with lines. If they didn't crumble at your touch...
Besides the crumbling that's how my air shocks were when I was taking them out. They were weaving all around. I'm glad I took them off for the Bilsteins. I just need to find time to put it all together and take it out for a test drive. 
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/01/13 10:48 AM
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Darin, Empty your PM's as it has exceeded it's level and I can't respond to your messages.
David
Done. Thanks!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/01/13 10:49 AM
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I think those shocks must have come free with a set of slot mags!
Almost seems like it! There are air lines wrapped around everything back there. Looks like you could almost wrap the car with lines. If they didn't crumble at your touch...
Besides the crumbling that's how my air shocks were when I was taking them out. They were weaving all around. I'm glad I took them off for the Bilsteins. I just need to find time to put it all together and take it out for a test drive.
Still trying to decide on a shock and rear spring for it. I am going to hopefully finish up the rear brakes tonight and have found a front disk setup for a reasonable price. So may be a couple weeks before I get to the front.
Posted By: Boosted
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/11/13 01:29 PM
Stayed here in GA... I think the guy got it all for 2500 with the matching numbers motor and trans...
I am wanting a bee now.... I wish I did not see this post..lol
Posted By: 68427vette
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/11/13 04:34 PM
nice ride!! i'll sand blast it for you when your ready!!! im still in grove city!!! and you still have to come out and take a peek peek out here!!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/12/13 10:23 AM
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Stayed here in GA... I think the guy got it all for 2500 with the matching numbers motor and trans...
I am wanting a bee now.... I wish I did not see this post..lol
They absolutely STOLE that car! Wow. I guess as long as your friend was happy then everyone won. I am still waiting to hear on a '69 R/T in Georgia. You guys have all the cool cars! About the same shape as my Bee, still has the Dana, 4-speed spline count is unknown. Later 440 partially disassembled in the car. Heads in the trunk.
Looked at it in '11 but mine didn't sell fast enough.
Anyway... closing a deal to get all the big parts I need to get the 3 Times X9 on the road this summer. Then it is continue on with the safety pieces... 
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/12/13 10:24 AM
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nice ride!! i'll sand blast it for you when your ready!!! im still in grove city!!! and you still have to come out and take a peek peek out here!!
Jeff, I sure haven't forgotten about you. Still have your number and when I get well (cold, cough, allergies) I'll be calling... 
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/21/13 11:45 AM
More progress. Spent about 4 hours under the car last night. Finished the right rear brake job. RockAuto wheel cylinders don't use the same size retaining bolts, so dug around and found some that would fit. Need to blast and turn the drums and hit them with some paint, replace the lug studs, then I'm done with rear axle. For now.
Looking lightly for a 3.91.
With the purty new stainless line on the right side
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/21/13 11:49 AM
Stripping the console down.
Now it's looking kinda barren.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/21/13 11:55 AM
Got the trans out. For the record, I'm really not in the shape I was a while ago. I couldn't toss the thing up on the bench.
Only one bellhousing bolt. So the bell came off easily.
This input shaft worries me.
But it looks nice inside...
That's it for now. Looks like a call to Brewer's next week for some parts/ideas...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/21/13 11:57 AM
Let me say, I LOVE southern cars. I needed a box end on an open end for leverage on ONE bolt. No penetrating oil. No heat. Wonderful...
The trans is original to the car.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/21/13 09:45 PM
looks like you need to polish your shaft.....
Posted By: EK2Runner
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/21/13 10:25 PM
Rolling right along ... Summertime will be here before you know it
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/22/13 12:44 AM
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looks like you need to polish your shaft.....
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/22/13 09:55 PM
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Got the trans out. For the record, I'm really not in the shape I was a while ago. I couldn't toss the thing up on the bench. some parts/ideas...
I feel your pain....I used to lay under the car, and manhandling the four speed in by myself. never used a trans jack. Now I know there ain't no way I could do that.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/24/13 11:35 PM
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Got the trans out. For the record, I'm really not in the shape I was a while ago. I couldn't toss the thing up on the bench. some parts/ideas...
I feel your pain....I used to lay under the car, and manhandling the four speed in by myself. never used a trans jack. Now I know there ain't no way I could do that.
Did the same thing with the Hemi box in my R/T. A couple times. Looks like I've gone soft.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/26/13 04:22 AM
ah...time marches on....
Darin Empty your PM box, it is full!!!
PM me on that info you need to know.
David
Posted By: 68427vette
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/19/13 04:09 PM
Darin, thanks for coming out to my NUT house ZOO of cars, and WWII vehicals LOL crazy times ahead!!!
let me know when you want some sandblasting,(good weather), and or if i get time want to come out and wrench, super busy with me moving in the next three-4 weeks,,,
-chester
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/19/13 04:54 PM
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Got the trans out. For the record, I'm really not in the shape I was a while ago. I couldn't toss the thing up on the bench. some parts/ideas...
I feel your pain....I used to lay under the car, and manhandling the four speed in by myself. never used a trans jack. Now I know there ain't no way I could do that.
So what your saying is that................................ you're an old fart.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/20/13 02:15 PM
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Darin, thanks for coming out to my NUT house ZOO of cars, and WWII vehicals LOL crazy times ahead!!!
let me know when you want some sandblasting,(good weather), and or if i get time want to come out and wrench, super busy with me moving in the next three-4 weeks,,,
-chester
It was cool meeting you. I'm gonna grab those drums today and wait for the sun. I'll put the beer in the fridge!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/20/13 02:21 PM
Last night's score. On the left is a '69 HP 383 and the right is a non-HP 383 that runs well. Also grabbed a radiator and driveshaft. Wooohooooo!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/30/13 12:52 AM
Progress update. Thanks to a fellow Moparts member with a good eye(thanks Jess) I was alerted to putting the brake shoes on wrong. So tonight I got that fixed and continuing to work on prepping the engine...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/04/13 09:28 PM
I actually got work on the Beest this weekend. Not a huge amount of progress, but a step in the right direction. I bought a set of 15" aluminum slots for it to make me a little happier with the appearance. It doesn't quite look Joe Dirt, but I am cool with it until I get farther. The engine is 90% stripped of old paint and in the next couple weeks I'll repaint it and get it ready for install. Hopefully the Trade Fairy does me well and I can get what I need to be road worthy in the next month and a week.
Here's a couple pics.
Posted By: MuuMuu101
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/04/13 09:34 PM
I'm liking the looks of it a lot. Don't even think about repainting it. It looks BA!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/04/13 10:02 PM
It won't be pretty for quite some time. I will be cleaning the dust off and trying to make what good paint there is on it shine! Once I destroy these tires I will go taller. These are 295/50's. Want at least 275/60's. But will probably go bigger. I think the wheels are 10". Gotta love b-body wheel houses!
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/04/13 10:53 PM
Bee lookin' fer you in 7 weeks...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/04/13 11:44 PM
Absolutely! Working for that goal. I'll be emailing you soon for more info, as well.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/05/13 02:39 PM
great score, love the slots!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/05/13 07:28 PM
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great score, love the slots!
I'm liking them, too. Going to try to clean them up a little. New rubber will be nice, too.
Posted By: a12superbee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/05/13 07:49 PM
Yep, the wheels were a good choice.
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/05/13 08:04 PM
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Yep, the wheels were a good choice.
Slots and B-bodies go together like fried pickles and a good ale.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/14/13 08:29 PM
I'm officially done poking around to check out the body condition. Pulled the finish panel off the back. Ouch. So far the AMD list includes:
Rear tail panel
Right quarter panel
Rear window channel
Both window corners
Maybe a full trunk pan while the quarter panel is off
Left inner fender.
Maybe right fender. Oops. My bad. They make high volume items like Super Bird window trim that I'm sure people need 20 to 1 over '69 Coronet fenders! Hahaha.
I'm sure more to come.
Here is some bitter eye candy for me!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/14/13 08:32 PM
However, I remain undeterred. I will still be thrashing in the next three weeks to make it run, stop, steer and make the trip to Woodward!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/14/13 09:52 PM
Tank is out. Had it not been for some abuse, then it could have been reused. The j-bolts can be salvaged. But, with new everything else, why? Lol. Pad is even decent. But brittle.
A mile of air line for the air shocks:
Tank. Looks good!
Okay, maybe not.
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/14/13 10:06 PM
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Tank is out. Had it not been for some abuse, then it could have been reused.
LMAO...
Yeah, buddy...
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/14/13 10:55 PM
How come I can just hear "hold my beer a minute" when I look at that tank?
I've seen some crushed tanks before, but holy crap!
and I'd just slap the finish panel back on and check that off your list....
there's a guy on FBBO that just rebuilt the tail panel on his '69, just got laid off, probably be able to do yours in his sleep!
gotta love the old cars.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/14/13 11:11 PM
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How come I can just hear "hold my beer a minute" when I look at that tank? I've seen some crushed tanks before, but holy crap!
and I'd just slap the finish panel back on and check that off your list.... there's a guy on FBBO that just rebuilt the tail panel on his '69, just got laid off, probably be able to do yours in his sleep!
gotta love the old cars.
One step ahead of you. Finish panel is back on and it's overlooked. For now. It'll get fixed when the body gets my concentration. Right now it's forward on drivetrain improvements...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/15/13 02:54 AM
Trunk floor from below...
Looks like someone hit it with an airsoft wand or something. Lotsa dings.
I'm not sure which direction to go. Lots of dings means lots of hammer work(black car) which=lots of labor which = lots of money. The rust isn't terrible. So patching it makes sense. But to get it straight...
Oh, wait! It doesn't matter right now!! Get it running!
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/15/13 06:41 PM
Make it purty...
(Pencil me in, in the obviously small group that seems to feel you can have a nice car AND drive it)...
I've put 20k on a nut and bolt resto...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/15/13 07:02 PM
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Make it purty...
(Pencil me in, in the obviously small group that seems to feel you can have a nice car AND drive it)...
I've put 20k on a nut and bolt resto...
I'll agree with that. I plan on making it really nice some day... And I will continue to drive and abuse it...
Posted By: mattsmopars
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/15/13 09:45 PM
Nice to see progress. You have a nice project going just keep plugging along.
Matt
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/15/13 10:31 PM
purty is over rated...
make her safe to drive and have fun with it before you have to worry about scratching the shiney new paint.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/16/13 02:37 AM
Quote:
purty is over rated... make her safe to drive and have fun with it before you have to worry about scratching the shiney new paint.
That's still the first order of business. If you, or any of you, see me at the Nats, be sure and say hi.
Thanks, Matt.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/16/13 06:02 PM
If I was gonna be able to go I sure wood! maybe next year.....
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/16/13 07:30 PM
Quote:
If I was gonna be able to go I sure wood! maybe next year.....
Maybe next year, then.
Nice car Darin
Keep plugging along at it, to make it driveable...
I wanna see that car in the Donut Cutter parking
lot on Wednesday night...the week of the Dream Cruise.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/21/13 12:31 AM
Quote:
Nice car Darin
Keep plugging along at it, to make it driveable...
I wanna see that car in the Donut Cutter parking
lot on Wednesday night...the week of the Dream Cruise.
It's getting closer as we speak! The front to rear fuel and brake lines are in. The pile of scrap parts is growing. Pics later.
I have to day I love working on this car! The only heat I've used is to cut off the exhaust... Shock bolts came loose witha 3/8 short breaker bar and a socket! I had to wire brush the undercoating(?) off the J-bolts for the tank straps. They are like new. That's $24 I've saved. Lol.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/21/13 01:06 PM
The growing scrap pile. I added the air shocks last night. I also got the left front apart to start the disk upgrade. The plan is to drive it to Michigan, so I opted for the added piece of mind of disk rather than rebuild the drums.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/23/13 01:31 PM
More progress. Last night was very frustrating because the simple fact is that I'm not as nimble as I used to be. One nut on the master cylinder was driving me crazy. So I took a break to install the disks. Also ran into some issues there. Front mounted calipers and the caliper bracket hits the sway bar tab. Rear mounted the caliper hits the shock. And the hose routing is a little suspect. I also really need to replace the front shocks. The front suspension wouldn't compress with a jack under it.
Anyway, still made progress. I'll put another coat of primer on the engine, and hit it with color in the next couple days.
Old master cylinder gone.
New spindle. Won't work thatway.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/23/13 01:37 PM
Engine primered. I know I missed some of the valve covers. They will get replaced.
Posted By: MuuMuu101
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/23/13 04:19 PM
You're definitely making much more progress than I am. Keep up the good work!
Posted By: new bee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/23/13 05:10 PM
Keep the updates coming!
Posted By: EK2Runner
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/24/13 12:05 AM
Looking good
. It'll be a nice/fun ride when completed
Mike
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/25/13 01:38 PM
More progress. Brakes are installed. Tonight I'll tighten, torque and bleed them. Lines are run. I need to flush the distribution block with some brake clean and reinstall it.
Engine is now orange. Another coat and I'll start installing accessories. Hopefully Friday night it will be ready to drop in.
Gas tank is in and needs tightened and rubber hose run, vent lines installed and I need to clean the filler neck real well and reinstall it.
It's getting there.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/25/13 02:34 PM
Left side:
Right side:
Engine bay has all the pretty lines now:
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/25/13 02:37 PM
Engine is oinge now:(aka, orange)
Posted By: 70440+6bbl
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/25/13 02:50 PM
Awesome! This will be you soon enough
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/25/13 05:09 PM
not waisting anytime are you?
hey what are you doing with your stock spindles? a buddy of mine needs one and hasn't had any luck finding one.
Posted By: a12superbee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/26/13 07:23 AM
Yep, you'll be wheeling the neighborhood in no time.
Amazing how much your car looks like mine all the way down to the rust and crust.
Only difference when I got it was the ramcharger scoops were white.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/26/13 11:42 AM
Quote:
not waisting anytime are you?
hey what are you doing with your stock spindles? a buddy of mine needs one and hasn't had any luck finding one.
Nope. Trying to get in it. Got Thr brakes all tightened, torqued, and the master cylinder bled. Lines connected, checked, and ready to bleed.
I hadn't decided what to do with the old stuff. I know I won't be putting them back on, but I was kind of leary of getting rid of the original brakes. But I guess I could save the drums and sell the spindles? Pm me.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/26/13 11:43 AM
Quote:
Yep, you'll be wheeling the neighborhood in no time.
Amazing how much your car looks like mine all the way down to the rust and crust.
Only difference when I got it was the ramcharger scoops were white.
Would love to see your car. What are the specifics?
Posted By: a12superbee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/27/13 06:24 AM
I guess 'reminds me' of my car might be closer.
It's a w1, a12, 4 speed bee with a very hard past. And present.
Except for the trans, picked clean, play doh restoration and shot black probably in the early 80's.
I bought it sight unseen in 99 with the intent of beating on it until I break it and am pleased to say I've accomplished that task several times over.
Been replacing the missing bits as $ allows but 75k + restos aren't too likely. Need the dana now.
One pic at a12faq . com and here's one, both on the day it showed up.
The discs will be a nice upgrade and the ramcharger looks so good on the 69 bees.
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Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/27/13 11:46 AM
Very cool ride, man!
I didn't accomplish a lot last night. It was on the ground for the first time since February. I pushed it out of the garage a little and hit the engine bay with some Super Clean and a little brushing and some water. Looks like a cleaner mess.
Also hunted down two brake leaks and did a little bleeding to them. It seems to have all the air out, but I'm really really, really not happy with the pedal feel. The whole braking system is new. I ran silicon brake fluid. I'm wondering if it is more 'sqhishy'. I'll keep bleeding until I get what I want. A friend is getting the front tires mounted today. I'llmmost likely put them on tonight, but I have to take a break for the weekend. It's getting to the point I'm waiting on some parts. Not there yet, but it's getting closer.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/27/13 04:06 PM
Back on the ground again.
Out for a quick rinse.
Engine bay mid wash. It looks better than it did.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/27/13 04:11 PM
I think it may sit up a tad when I get the rear shocks back on it and another 730 pounds in the front...
I wanted to play a little. So I bolted some stuff on the engine.
Super Stocks to be added.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/29/13 03:06 AM
Quote:
[I hadn't decided what to do with the old stuff. I know I won't be putting them back on, but I was kind of leary of getting rid of the original brakes. But I guess I could save the drums and sell the spindles? Pm me.
I'm out of town for a while, so I'm on here only once in a while, so I'll have him get ahold of you. Thanks
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/29/13 03:33 AM
Quote:
Quote:
[I hadn't decided what to do with the old stuff. I know I won't be putting them back on, but I was kind of leary of getting rid of the original brakes. But I guess I could save the drums and sell the spindles? Pm me.
I'm out of town for a while, so I'm on here only once in a while, so I'll have him get ahold of you. Thanks
That works.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/29/13 03:41 AM
A little more progress. Flywheel on, which means the engine is finally off the stand.
Clutch disk. Should be no slipping! Since the trans wasn't done, might as well use the new input shaft for an alignment tool. Engine had a pilot bushing in it already. Was even still tight!
Pressure plate added, all torqued down.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/29/13 03:44 AM
Dropped in:
All bolted in. Will clean the trans tomorrow and reassemble Tuesday. It's all apart and I get to dive into my first 833 assembly.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/29/13 03:52 AM
Trans apart. The sea of blue towels is because it wasn't empty.
Almost empty case.
What I have cleaned and set on some clean blue towels. I'm getting very close. A little closer each day. Once the trans is in, I'll get the engine wired, plumbed, and cooled. Also have to finish the fuel system. Tighten the tank straps, run the rubber line, install vent lines, etc. I'm pushing it on time..
Sorry about the crappy pics. My phone was about dead. I turned the resolution down, too, but not the size.
Posted By: RUNCHARGER
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/29/13 04:30 AM
Great progress! Keep it up.
Sheldon
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/30/13 12:39 AM
Didn't do a lot tonight. Put the carb on and picked up some odds and ends from a friend. Aside from exhaust, I think all the big purchases are done for now. I need a cap and rotor, some hard line from the fuel pump to the carb, rubber hose from the tank to the line, some longer bolts for the valve covers, and a carb stud. Oh, an air filter is a must, as well. Looks like everything will fit under the hood well! We'll see when it gets a Performer RPM.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/30/13 12:42 AM
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/01/13 04:43 AM
Well, I got the transmission in tonight. Did a few other odds and ends. Put in the radiator and cleaned up the air cleaner top so it is a little closer to the new valve covers. Put it back down on the ground and the rear springs are awfully low. I'll try and adjust the torsion bars some to bring the front down. We'll see how it looks.
Now the crappy news. I've put all the effort and time I have available into it to get it ready for the Nats and Woodward. Looks like I will probably get to do neither. Or one with the car. The cash has dried up and once it is running, tags and title and insurance are beyond the budget. So it looks like the epic Nats weekend is just going to be 'cool' for my like every other year. Oh well, what can you do. Maybe I'll be able to hit Norwalk and end the 'Mopar season' on a high note.
Posted By: KillerBee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/01/13 06:27 PM
Don't feel bad.
I put myself on a deadline last fall to at least get my car running good enough to take my 11 year old daughter for a ride around the block, I promised her.
I got it running just good enough to take her for that ride, with no interior in the car...just 2 seats, then back in the garage for more work.
You are on a pretty aggressive pace and that gets expensive fast.
My car sat for 10 years while I collected the big parts.
When it was time to install the drivetrain it was unbelievable how much little nickel and dime parts cost $$$$$.
I also had to back off as my toy budget was empty.
I've been tinkering with it all summer and it's still NOT completely done, probably never will be.
I'm currently battling with a creeky over center clutch pedal spring...what a joy that was to get out.
Keep your spirits up and don't try to do it all at one time..
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/01/13 07:25 PM
We can getcha' some springs(John R spring)...
Drive it over this away and bring yer Visa...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/02/13 01:57 AM
Quote:
We can getcha' some springs(John R spring)...
Drive it over this away and bring yer Visa...
I took tonight off to relax, but it will be running on Saturday. I bought the springs a couple weeks ago, just need to grab the hangers. Super Stocks.
Keeping my positive outlook because the car hasn't been fighting me at all. I've never gotten a 4-speed in on a regular jack so fast before. Ever. Bolts aren't fighting me. Parts aren't fighting me. I've not had to reengineer anything. It's going together reality smooth. I've accomplished in a few weeks what it took me 10 years to get to on my R/T.
So onward I trudge.
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/02/13 02:10 AM
Quote:
It's going together really smooth.
Get as much of that as you can...
(The 'two-steps back' syndrome doesn't usually hide for long...)
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/02/13 02:23 AM
Quote:
Quote:
It's going together really smooth.
Get as much of that as you can...
(The 'two-steps back' syndrome doesn't usually hide for long...)
It's not running 'yet'. So there will be a hitch, I'm sure...
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/02/13 03:52 PM
I feel your pain. my car is still in the paint shop, and with our trip out west, no cash for the nats.
as far as the tags, go Historical, even get some '69 plates. less then $40 and you're done as long as you have the car.
Posted By: gtsuperbee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/02/13 04:04 PM
Keep up the good work. You can always trailer it to the nats...at least it will be there. I need to get my own butt in gear if I plan on taking the black bee. It's been out of the trailer only once since the nats last year.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/02/13 07:59 PM
Quote:
Keep up the good work. You can always trailer it to the nats...at least it will be there. I need to get my own butt in gear if I plan on taking the black bee. It's been out of the trailer only once since the nats last year.
I think I'll make it. I hope so. Would like to get a picture next to your Bee. It would be like the polished and proper big brother next to the disheveled little bro!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/03/13 03:12 AM
10:00 update. Clutch linkage is in and adjusted. Starter is in and tight. Found two brake leaks. One, I believe, is due to the crappy copper washers they use to seal the banjo bolt to the caliper. The other is a line. Should just need tightened. I'm 'adjusting' the u-joint straps right now, then I'll be done under the car for tonight. Yet to come: tighten water pump, install t-stat, install header gaskets and tighten, find tdc and index the distributor, clean paint off the plugs and reinstall, run the wires, and start the wiring replacement. I'm still feeling good, so I'll be at it for while...
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/04/13 03:55 AM
agree on the crappy copper washer. I put a new rubber line on my truck, and it leaked. reused the old washer and leak stopped. hope you maek it, and take pleantty of pics!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/05/13 04:12 PM
Still plugging away. It hasn't fired yet, but I'm getting closer. I took some stuff back to Summit and I'm waiting for the refund to post. Then I can buy some more 'stuff' and at least listen to it run.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/06/13 12:41 AM
I've made continuous headway on the car, but it seems like for some reason the list keeps growing. The issues at the moment are some bellhousing bolts that are too long. I can see air between the block and the bell, and they won't tighten anymore. I still have to tighten a line and a bolt to stop my tiny brake fluid leak. I don't think that I will make the Nats, but I'm still plugging away. I'll be on it until I leave Friday for the show.
My boy helping. He's really looking forward to riding in it.
Wires routed. I'll clean it up before too long. But they're on.
Mounted the coil and the alternator and plumbed from the pump to the carb.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/06/13 12:57 AM
Posted By: crowbait
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/06/13 01:27 AM
Do you have the correct bellhousing for the clutch/flywheel combo your running? 10.50" vs 11.00" etc.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/06/13 03:35 AM
Yes. Original bell. 11" flywheel. Original style pressure plate. The bolts have a good 1/4" between the head and the bell. They ain't moving.
Posted By: RUNCHARGER
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/06/13 05:15 AM
Fun thread. The photos remind me of thrashing on them to get them running back in the days before chalk marks were necessary on the muffler bearings.
Sheldon
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/06/13 05:37 AM
Take a measurement with a pin punch into the block...
You'll know the correct bolt length...
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/06/13 07:51 AM
It looks like you plan on running the heater core with those nice new heater hose nipples in the water pump housing. You are brave to test that heater core, I would just bypass it for now if I were you. It is August and all, you shouldnt need it
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/06/13 10:31 AM
Quote:
Fun thread. The photos remind me of thrashing on them to get them running back in the days before chalk marks were necessary on the muffler bearings.
Sheldon
Yep, exactly. Back when it was fun and you weren't drawn and quartered for mods to your own car. Very fun thread.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/06/13 01:58 PM
Quote:
It looks like you plan on running the heater core with those nice new heater hose nipples in the water pump housing. You are brave to test that heater core, I would just bypass it for now if I were you. It is August and all, you shouldnt need it
I blasted it out with air yesterday. Had a bunch of crap in one side and blew a bunch of water out. I probably should have just stuck some pipe plugs in. There is still time.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/06/13 02:03 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Fun thread. The photos remind me of thrashing on them to get them running back in the days before chalk marks were necessary on the muffler bearings.
Sheldon
Yep, exactly. Back when it was fun and you weren't drawn and quartered for mods to your own car. Very fun thread.
I'll never be part of the chalk mark crowd. All I want to do is make 'em run and improve them. Whether that is by upgrading the drivetrain or improving the body little by little. I'll make it nice some day, but also the way I want it.
I've never been much of a conformist. That's why I liked Mopars in the first place!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/06/13 02:04 PM
Quote:
Take a measurement with a pin punch into the block...
You'll know the correct bolt length...
Will do. Thanks! Simple enough.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/07/13 01:12 AM
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/07/13 01:18 AM
I got the wiring almost completed today. Replaced the motor mount I broke. Wired the starter. Added a bolt I was missing to the bellhousing and pulled one that was too long out to measure. I accomplished a lot today.
I also scored an exhaust system for $50. I had it bent for a car I wrecked long ago. It was old enough the glasspacks burnt out of it. But new enough the guy who bought the car heated the connections and it came apart. It's 2&1/4" and had glasspacks on it, but it sounded pretty good behind a 383 that had an almost identical cam in it.
Progress. I might make it yet.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/07/13 02:00 AM
you'll make it, it's only Tuesday!
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/07/13 02:35 AM
Quote:
you'll make it, it's only Tuesday!
Posted By: burdar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/07/13 03:51 AM
Posted By: moparcyco
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/07/13 04:50 AM
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/07/13 12:58 PM
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Damn! have not checked your thread in awhile.You are kicking some a$$ looks good keep up the good work.But slow down your making my thread look like it went fom slow to dead
Lol. No worries. Your car is pretty! Mine has a lot of pretty parts stuffed in it!
It's not the matter of time that might keep me from making it. It's cash flow! I'll have most of it done today. Found an exhaust off one of my old cars, so one more hurdle covered. Come on Refund Gods!
Posted By: GOLDMYN
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/07/13 04:02 PM
While you've got the dash out, are you going to run an after-market amp gauge or take a chance with the original?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/07/13 04:42 PM
Gonna chance the original. Another isn't in the budget. Or I'll just connect the wires (to each other) and get the original gone through.
Are you going to cruise on heath? Ill keep an eye out for ya
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/07/13 05:51 PM
At this point, no. The car will be sitting right were it is now. I'm running out of time and still out of money. I don't think the stars are aligned on this one.
Posted By: GOLDMYN
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/07/13 10:17 PM
I just checked the map, you could push the car over to Heath, take donations and finish it up
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/07/13 11:36 PM
sounds like a plan!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/08/13 02:36 AM
Quote:
I just checked the map, you could push the car over to Heath, take donations and finish it up
That DOES sound like a plan. Except I'm building the car an hour north of Columbus. That's out. On the bright side, everything I can do until a little more $$ rolls in is done. Except for one stupid motor mount bolt. I'll never not buy Schumacher mounts again. These junk rubber ones are enfuriating. Nothing to pry on to twist the thing to where it needs to be.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/08/13 11:57 PM
It's alive! I ran it for a second and blew oil all over the engine bay and gas is leaking out the intake runners into the valley pan!
On a more positive note, I got to hear it run. Still waytoo much to do to make the Nats or Woodward, so I'll be tearing the valley pan up off of the engine and sealing everything again. The dual feed line is leaking on the carb. Along with the intake. I have to find a oil pressure sending unit that actually fits the provision. So another year watching the cruising.
There's always next year.
Posted By: burdar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/09/13 12:48 AM
Work on it all night...buy what you need on Friday. Install Friday night and drive it Saturday.
What's the problem?
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/09/13 12:57 AM
Quote:
Work on it all night...buy what you need on Friday. Install Friday night and drive it Saturday. What's the problem?
Sleeping, eating, going to work - all highly overrated. Get that drippy sucker done.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/09/13 01:14 AM
Quote:
Quote:
Work on it all night...buy what you need on Friday. Install Friday night and drive it Saturday. What's the problem?
Sleeping, eating, going to work - all highly overrated. Get that drippy sucker done.
I'm on vacation!! No more money to buy 'stuff'. I'm gonna enjoy the Nats. I'll get back on it next week.
Posted By: a12superbee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/09/13 08:22 AM
Awesome you fired it up though.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/09/13 12:21 PM
Quote:
So another year watching the cruising.
I won't even get to do that.
great you got to hear it.
Posted By: UCUDANT
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/09/13 01:54 PM
Quote:
I'm on vacation!! No more money to buy 'stuff'. I'm gonna enjoy the Nats. I'll get back on it next week.
Glad you got it running. If you can part out a decently opted car you can fund your project. The Darts interior is/will be fully funded that way
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/09/13 02:15 PM
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Quote:
I'm on vacation!! No more money to buy 'stuff'. I'm gonna enjoy the Nats. I'll get back on it next week.
Glad you got it running. If you can part out a decently opted car you can fund your project. The Darts interior is/will be fully funded that way
It's finding the time to find/purchase/part/sell said decently optioned car! I'll. Get it on the road in the next couple weeks. Or sell my other projects and do a LOT of work to it!
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/09/13 04:51 PM
Quote:
sell my other projects and do a LOT of work to it!
Affirmative...
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/13/13 12:16 AM
The Nats are over.
You are home.
Your Summit credit has probably cleared.
What did you get done today??
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/13/13 01:26 AM
Credit hit on Thursday. All I did today was buy the pipe plug to fix my oil leak. Looks like my next day of wrenching will be Wednesday. I will get the intake sealed and tighten the fuel line and get it running so I can make it run aand start tuning it to idle.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/13/13 02:04 AM
Quote:
The Nats are over.
You are home.
Your Summit credit has probably cleared.
What did you get done today??
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/17/13 07:54 PM
No pics, but I pulled the intake and got the oil galley plugged. Ran into another issue on the other side. The oil pressure sending unit is too fat to fit between the galley and the block. So I either need to raise it somehow, a lot, or find a smaller sending unit.
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/19/13 04:58 PM
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So I either need to raise it somehow, a lot, or find a smaller sending unit.
Unusual to hafta' look for a smaller unit...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/19/13 06:33 PM
Quote:
Quote:
So I either need to raise it somehow, a lot, or find a smaller sending unit.
Unusual to hafta' look for a smaller unit...
Agreed. Something don't jive...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/19/13 09:33 PM
Did a tiny bit of online research. I think I got the wrong oil pressure switch. I looked at a couple pics and the application for my car should have a longer 1/8" fitting on it. The one I got had a short 1/4", or maybe a little larger, fitting. Simple enough.
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/25/13 09:35 PM
Just to get it back above the Mirada where it belongs...
Posted By: jt4406
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/26/13 12:01 AM
Darin
Here's a pic of the one I got for my 70 challenger, don't really know where I got it though. Very likely just a parts store piece. (if you open the "attachment" it may be easier to see).
Jess
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/26/13 01:30 AM
Quote:
Darin
Here's a pic of the one I got for my 70 challenger, don't really know where I got it though. Very likely just a parts store piece. (if you open the "attachment" it may be easier to see).
Jess
That's the one I need. I ordered mine through Advance Auto and the 'stem' is at least half that long and much fatter. It would fit the right side, but that hole is too close to the front of the block or the sender is too wide. I'll get whatiI need this week and be back on it. I spent the last week pulling 12's to get my place money built back up.
Thank you, Jess. You've provided a couple good, helpful references for me.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/26/13 01:31 AM
Quote:
Just to get it back above the Mirada where it belongs...
Thank you, now I need to get the car back in front of the Mirada. Some juggling will be involved.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/02/13 12:15 AM
Back at it today. I got the new valley pan gasket on it and put the correct oil pressure sending unit on it. Got the intake back on and tomorrow I will finish buttoning the rest of the stuff up and fire it up again.
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/02/13 12:19 AM
Norwalk???
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/02/13 02:17 AM
Gotta friggin' work. I have little doubt it will be roadworthy by then. But the best I can do is drive it to work Norwalk weekend.
Posted By: MuuMuu101
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/02/13 07:22 PM
Get on it! To be honest, you're thread is the little inspiration I get to even thinking about getting the Dart finished.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/04/13 01:42 AM
I bought the stuff I need to keep plugging away. My phone died before I could snap a picture of it, but the intake is back on, the carb is back on, fuel line connected, vacuum lines hooked up, and I'm gonna be back on it before the weekend. I still have to fight with a drivers side motor mount, but I ripped the first one, so I'm avoiding it for now.
I still need to fill/adjust the trans. More of a fine tuning, but needs done. Heater hoses and anti-freeze and it's time to start tuning the idle and advance curve. Exhaust and a rear tire change and hopefully some road miles on it starting in the next couple weeks.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/06/13 12:30 PM
ITS ALIVE!! Crappy cell phone video, but it's all I had at the time.
<a href=http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t181/OhioMopar/Triple%20black%20Bee/?action=view¤t=20130905_193409_zpsc1e28a9e.mp4 target=_blank><img src=http://static.photobucket.com/player.swf?file=http://vid160.photobucket.com/albums/t181/OhioMopar/Triple%20black%20Bee/20130905_193409_zpsc1e28a9e.mp4 border=0 alt=></a>
It has an oil leak, and the carb is leaking from the dual feed line. But it idles and sounds wonderful. I'll add some water tonight and see if the heater core leaks. If it does I'll bypass it for now. I need to borrow a timing light so I can set the advance once I fix those pesky stout springs in the distributor.
It sounds healthy and holds some really good oil pressure!
I have some more pressing matters that require my monetary attention, but I'll keep on fixing the little things and looking at a bit of road time next week or the week after. Trans goes through all the gears(except reverse. Still need to figure it out. Probably have the lever flipped.)
I'm pretty pleased! Very happy with my engine purchase from David Eschedor, and also some guidance in what it likes tuning wise from its previous caretaker, Doug Markel. Couple of great Mopar guys.
I still have some things to fix before it hits the road, but the list keeps shrinking!
2nd More to come.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/06/13 12:41 PM
Okay, if someone smarter than me can get the video to load, feel free!
Posted By: MuuMuu101
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/06/13 04:10 PM
Quote:
Okay, if someone smarter than me can get the video to load, feel free!
Idk how much smarter I am, but I'll trade some of my brains for your experience.
http://s160.photobucket.com/user/OhioMop...e28a9e.mp4.html
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/06/13 07:08 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Okay, if someone smarter than me can get the video to load, feel free!
Idk how much smarter I am, but I'll trade some of my brains for your experience.
http://s160.photobucket.com/user/OhioMop...e28a9e.mp4.html
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/06/13 11:05 PM
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/06/13 11:43 PM
Nope. Picked up some gaskets today after work and I'm scraping my over zealous silicon job off! Probably won't get it all tonight! Glad I thought to grab longer bolts while I was at Jegs.
Posted By: a12superbee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/08/13 07:34 AM
Sweet, she's drivable?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/08/13 12:23 PM
Very close. But not quite yet.
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/12/13 01:18 AM
So did you ever get the trans into reverse?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/12/13 04:35 PM
Not yet. I'm going to drain the trans tonight and take the cover loose. I loosened the ccover bolts enough that it leaked, so I just ordered a new cover gasket from Brewers. Installed new valve cover gaskets but need longer bolts to get them on. It's still coming along.
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/13/13 12:47 AM
I always thought working for Fastenall would have been handy during projects
Stick with it
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/13/13 01:09 AM
Quote:
I always thought working for Fastenall would have been handy during projects Stick with it
I got a bunch of bolts from work to secure the valve covers. So those are done. I also pulled the side cover off the trans. It seems someone WAS in the trans before me. I pulled the brass forks out and put them back in exactly as they came out. Well, I think they were in wrong. I actuated reverse and it was hitting the more symmetrical of the two forks. So I think swapping them and putting it back together will solve my problem.
A new cover gasket is on its way from Brewers.
Posted By: a12superbee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/14/13 03:59 AM
Now can we go for a ride?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/15/13 09:19 PM
Lol. Would like to. I just don't see it this year. I've got less time to work on it now, and I'm about to move again and that's gonna burn a lot of time and $$. Might just be dormant for another stretch.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/16/13 11:46 PM
Trans is back together. Reverse works. So does 1-4!!!! I drove it around the garage and house and moved the Mirada to the back and now can get it out. Lost the brakes in the process. The Right Stuff got their last dollar from me. The lines in their disk brake conversion either hit the shock directly if they are mounted with calipers or hit the upper control arm AND the shock if the calipers are turned to the rear. I'll keep plugging away! I drove it. Now I want to get it on the road!
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/17/13 12:40 AM
Quote:
Now I want to get it on the road!
We got the Chesterfield cruise this Sat...
Jim Rhiel the following Sat...
Keep them dogies rollin'...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/17/13 02:54 AM
After its short drive.
Needs some lift in the rear.
I love the front of a Bee. I need an extra pair of hands to get the hood back on.
I think the 3.23 will be okay. Would rather have a 3.55, but this wasn't trying very hard. Not tuned right, either...
Posted By: 70440+6bbl
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/17/13 05:04 AM
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/17/13 06:14 AM
man that's gotta fel great!! wish I was closer, I'd help ith the hood.
Posted By: a12superbee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/19/13 09:02 AM
Few things take better pictures than a knuckle dragging mopar.
Sweet.
Posted By: RUNCHARGER
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/19/13 04:53 PM
I know this sounds weird but these photos are exactly how I remember Mopars, not the show poodle restos. That photo above could have been taken in 1973, 1980 or 1990 for that matter.
Sheldon
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/19/13 06:02 PM
Quote:
how I remember Mopars, not the show poodle restos. That photo above could have been taken in 1973, 1980 or 1990 for that matter.
Different world...
Guys struggled to make 'em the best that they could be...
Didn't require a 50k 'car fund'...
There were plenty of 'em in these parts that were sharp as a rat turd...
And they RAN...On the street...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/19/13 06:29 PM
Quote:
Quote:
how I remember Mopars, not the show poodle restos. That photo above could have been taken in 1973, 1980 or 1990 for that matter.
Different world...
Guys struggled to make 'em the best that they could be...
Didn't require a 50k 'car fund'...
There were plenty of 'em in these parts that were sharp as a rat turd...
And they RAN...On the street...
It's gonna look that way for a while. I don't have a $50K car fund, either.
working on that running thing, too...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/19/13 06:33 PM
Quote:
Few things take better pictures than a knuckle dragging mopar.
Sweet.
The only thing I absolutely hate about the pictures is the rear tires being shorter than the front. I will remedy that tonight.
I still need to adjust the torsion bars where I want them. Also need to get the back up a tad bit. A nice rake.
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/19/13 08:03 PM
Quote:
It's gonna look that way for a while. I don't have a $50K car fund, either.
working on that running thing, too...
Strive to endeavor...
Blood, sweat, and tears keeps you honest...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/19/13 09:09 PM
Quote:
Quote:
It's gonna look that way for a while. I don't have a $50K car fund, either.
working on that running thing, too...
Strive to endeavor...
Blood, sweat, and tears keeps you honest...
No worries. This car will teach me a lot. One day it will be nice. Just not right away. I'm gonna settle for fun!
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/20/13 01:23 AM
(I've gotten dirty fingernails, and grabbed some gears in a '69 Bee...
They's nice)...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/20/13 01:47 AM
Well, I got the brakes figured out and will get the parts I need to finish it tomorrow. I will also pick up an adjustable timing light to set the timing on it. I finished the distributor tonight, too. Put a set of Mopar light advance springs in it.
I got the new rear tires mounted and a buddy came over and helped me get the hood on and adjusted pretty close to right.
I'll get the brakes finished, again, tomorrow and I hope to pick up an exhaust system, then it is time for some road miles!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/20/13 01:50 AM
Quote:
(I've gotten dirty fingernails, and grabbed some gears in a '69 Bee...
They's nice)...
I've wanted one ever since I bought a model A-12 when I was but a wee tike. Then I saw the Ramcharger hood on one. Pure lust after that...
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/20/13 02:26 AM
Awesome and great progress.
My Bee was one of the "ugly" 70 versions. Beige, 4 speed, ratty, scary fast, and the most fun I've had in a street car.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/20/13 10:34 AM
Quote:
Awesome and great progress. My Bee was one of the "ugly" 70 versions. Beige, 4 speed, ratty, scary fast, and the most fun I've had in a street car.
I had a Top Banana '70. I wouldn't call them ugly, really. That was before I knew much about working on/tuning anything. It was a 383 car with a 440 out of a Sea body in it and a pistol grip. Had lots of mud in it, but was painted with Glasurit, so it was really shiny!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/21/13 01:20 PM
Got it all put back together last night. Used the new Camaro hoses and everything back together. Didn't get to set the timing yet, but borrowed a timing light. I'll get it done this week.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/01/13 01:59 AM
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/01/13 08:01 PM
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/01/13 10:46 PM
Oh so close
gotta beat the snow!
Posted By: 69_SIX_PACK
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/05/13 01:19 AM
Looking good
Dave
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/15/13 02:47 AM
Progress has been very slow. A snail is speedy by comparison. I had a move and also lost my garage, so I had to move the car, too.
So I have done a little. I sealed the header bolts. One is pretty well stripped, and may require drilling out and some Heli-coil if it doesn't seal. I went to replace the water temperature sending unit, and it snapped off. So I will have to get some easy outs and get that out so I can replace it and fill the cooling system again.
Other issues to address: the timing jumps around a LOT. probably need to take one of the MP springs out of the distributor and maybe put a stronger spring back in. Still need to set the timing. I need to find clips to retain the lever from the door handle to the door latch on the drivers side and get the lock cylinder put in so I can lock the doors. And open them. Plenty of stuff to do, but working one bug out at a time. Need to get the engine squared away first off.
Also ran into a strange problem. After a wiring mishap, I got it restarted, but flooded the engine while figuring out the wiring problem. On restart, the oil pressure came up almost at a crawl. Which was odd because as soon as it fired, it buried the gauge. I changed the oil, and it came up better, but not like it did. So I'll grab a manual gauge and see what is up with that. If it doesn't come up, I'll probably go straight to panic.
So progress is slow, but the persistence continues.
My favorite picture so far^^
On the trailer headed for its new residence. It is nice walking out the door and seeing it! Would rather have a garage to work on it in, though! As soon as I get settled and get my storage unit organized, at least I will get it inside...
Posted By: fc7_plumcrazy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/22/13 11:35 PM
the Bee looks really mean as it is
Carsten
Posted By: WyleECoyote
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/04/13 05:13 AM
Hats off to you Darin. What I love about this thread, and about your demeanor is to get the car running, driving, and stopping. Get the CAR back to life, enjoy, and don't worry about the $50,000 restoration. I'm on the same pathway with mine so I appreciate you sharing your story. Cheers.
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/05/13 03:57 AM
Quote:
Hats off to you Darin. What I love about this thread, and about your demeanor is to get the car running, driving, and stopping. Get the CAR back to life, enjoy, and don't worry about the $50,000 restoration. I'm on the same pathway with mine so I appreciate you sharing your story. Cheers.
Watch this space, I'm going to do the same thing as Darin, get my 69 R/T running and roadworthy this Spring just as she sits now, I might have a few of the bigger dents pulled out but that's about it. I just did the same thing to get my 37 on the road.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/05/13 05:48 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Hats off to you Darin. What I love about this thread, and about your demeanor is to get the car running, driving, and stopping. Get the CAR back to life, enjoy, and don't worry about the $50,000 restoration. I'm on the same pathway with mine so I appreciate you sharing your story. Cheers.
Watch this space, I'm going to do the same thing as Darin, get my 69 R/T running and roadworthy this Spring just as she sits now, I might have a few of the bigger dents pulled out but that's about it. I just did the same thing to get my 37 on the road.
Thanks guys. I had an R/T for 11 years and did everything to make it my way and most things twice. I never drove it. I've had my Bee less than a year and have driven it out of the garage a couple times. It ain't pretty, but it's mine and I'm on the verge of having lots of fun and going through a lot of tires with it!
I've been dormant lately, but I'll be back on it as soon as I can. Stay tuned!
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/06/13 06:24 PM
shiney paint is over rated. the way this fall has been going, I'll be in primer for a while. but I'll haver the car out having fun.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/08/13 06:27 PM
Quote:
shiney paint is over rated. the way this fall has been going, I'll be in primer for a while. but I'll haver the car out having fun.
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/08/13 07:43 PM
Quote:
shiney paint is over rated. the way this fall has been going, I'll be in primer for a while. but I'll haver the car out having fun.
Yes it is, this old girl gets more attention than the shiny cars I park it next to at the shows
Posted By: gtsuperbee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/13/13 01:01 AM
can't wait to see it in person. I'm at all the shows, come up and BS with me at one of them.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/15/13 05:09 AM
Will do. I caught you a few years ago in Dalton, but it was quick because it was friggin cold out!
Posted By: WannaRunner
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/16/13 06:56 AM
Quote:
shiney paint is over rated. the way this fall has been going, I'll be in primer for a while. but I'll haver the car out having fun.
Basket, what are you running for rear springs and wheels/tires?
Thanks
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/17/13 03:04 AM
when I got the car, ot only had four leaves on each side, so we added a second main, and another partial. the wheels are 15x8 Cragars, with alot of offset. It rides a tad stiff, but I love the look.
Posted By: WannaRunner
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/17/13 09:31 AM
Quote:
when I got the car, ot only had four leaves on each side, so we added a second main, and another partial. the wheels are 15x8 Cragars, with alot of offset. It rides a tad stiff, but I love the look.
Thanks!
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/17/13 12:36 PM
oh and 2756015s for tires.
Posted By: smokes
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/31/13 04:14 AM
I have enjoyed reading this build. I wish more people had your attitude towards cars and did not get so wrapped up in the money and numbers and focused more on having fun
(no offense to the numbers guys). I can't wait to see where this goes! Hopefully it will be tearing up the streets soon
Posted By: jt4406
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/31/13 09:55 PM
Quote:
I wish more people had your attitude towards cars and did not get so wrapped up in the money and numbers and focused more on having fun
I wish the flippers and the investors would take a hike........ just my
jess
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/01/14 04:20 PM
Quote:
I have enjoyed reading this build. I wish more people had your attitude towards cars and did not get so wrapped up in the money and numbers and focused more on having fun (no offense to the numbers guys). I can't wait to see where this goes! Hopefully it will be tearing up the streets soon
Thanks! As soon as this horrible weather breaks, it's back to work.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/20/14 03:14 PM
Well, the weather broke and I am back on it. I got the old temperature sending unit tapped out and the new one in. Tonight I will scrape old gaskets off and get the water pump housing back on. Hope to have the front of the engine buttoned up and the cooling system filled up tonight. Then I'll fire it up and set the timing. I need to get some small things Saturday in Columbus at the swap meet. Then after we get three nice, healthy rain showers, I'll start putting some miles on. Just locally until I get an exhaust system on it.
You will have to look for Doug in Columbus. He is going but I can't as I have to work.
Good Luck parts hunting.
David
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/21/14 09:48 AM
Will do. I was gonna call last night and see what is happening up that way. Got busy scraping gaskets, though.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/22/14 10:57 PM
Victory! Followed by defeat. Got it back together, running, and moving. Then the freeze plug on the drivers side rear of the head let go. Don't know if I'll be able to remove it and replace it without pulling the head or if I will have to yank the head. If I pull the head, I may pull both and get some work done. Hmmm...
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/22/14 11:24 PM
Quote:
If I pull the head, I may pull both and get some work done.
Hog 'em...
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/22/14 11:42 PM
this can snowball...but might as well replce all the freeze plugs. might be easier to pull the engine, do the plugs, regasket,paint up the engine nd bay....and on and on....
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/23/14 12:06 AM
Quote:
this can snowball...but might as well replce all the freeze plugs. might be easier to pull the engine, do the plugs, regasket,paint up the engine nd bay....and on and on....
You stop that right now!! 
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/23/14 03:45 AM
What heads? Got a set of templates here that aren't doing anything at the moment.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/23/14 04:54 AM
906's I believe. Hmmm. My Dremel tool is charged...
Posted By: new bee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/23/14 09:47 AM
Quote:
Victory! Followed by defeat. Got it back together, running, and moving. Then the freeze plug on the drivers side rear of the head let go. Don't know if I'll be able to remove it and replace it without pulling the head or if I will have to yank the head. If I pull the head, I may pull both and get some work done. Hmmm...
It can be done as I did it on my Super Bee without removing the head. We used one of those long clamps often used in wood working. I'm not sure what they are properly called, but there is a hand crank on one end. In a nutshell, we adjusted the clamp to be roughly the width of the head. On the non-crank side, we replaced the end piece with a bolt. Next, we lined up the crank end with the front freeze plug, and the bolt with the back freeze plug.
As we tightened up the crank, the bolt pivoted the rear freeze plug out.
To install the new plug, we replaced the bolt with a flat washer the same diameter as the plug. Tightening the hand crank pressed the new plug in.
Worked perfect.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/23/14 02:50 PM
Awesome! Thanks!
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/23/14 03:10 PM
Quote:
906's I believe. Hmmm. My Dremel tool is charged...
PM your address. I'll dig them out and send them if you want to use them.
Posted By: 70440+6bbl
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/24/14 05:50 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Victory! Followed by defeat. Got it back together, running, and moving. Then the freeze plug on the drivers side rear of the head let go. Don't know if I'll be able to remove it and replace it without pulling the head or if I will have to yank the head. If I pull the head, I may pull both and get some work done. Hmmm...
It can be done as I did it on my Super Bee without removing the head. We used one of those long clamps often used in wood working. I'm not sure what they are properly called, but there is a hand crank on one end. In a nutshell, we adjusted the clamp to be roughly the width of the head. On the non-crank side, we replaced the end piece with a bolt. Next, we lined up the crank end with the front freeze plug, and the bolt with the back freeze plug.
As we tightened up the crank, the bolt pivoted the rear freeze plug out.
To install the new plug, we replaced the bolt with a flat washer the same diameter as the plug. Tightening the hand crank pressed the new plug in.
Worked perfect.
Wow! That's a good one to remember
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/24/14 06:11 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
Victory! Followed by defeat. Got it back together, running, and moving. Then the freeze plug on the drivers side rear of the head let go. Don't know if I'll be able to remove it and replace it without pulling the head or if I will have to yank the head. If I pull the head, I may pull both and get some work done. Hmmm...
It can be done as I did it on my Super Bee without removing the head. We used one of those long clamps often used in wood working. I'm not sure what they are properly called, but there is a hand crank on one end. In a nutshell, we adjusted the clamp to be roughly the width of the head. On the non-crank side, we replaced the end piece with a bolt. Next, we lined up the crank end with the front freeze plug, and the bolt with the back freeze plug.
As we tightened up the crank, the bolt pivoted the rear freeze plug out.
To install the new plug, we replaced the bolt with a flat washer the same diameter as the plug. Tightening the hand crank pressed the new plug in.
Worked perfect.
Wow! That's a good one to remember
I thought the exact same thing!
Posted By: new bee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/25/14 12:18 AM
I wish I took a picture of it. You may have to do some of your own engineering as this tool we made has been gone for over 6 years.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/25/14 02:42 AM
I'll figure something out to work. Knowing you did it and that I now have an idea of how, I'll get it done. Thanks again.
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/26/14 12:29 AM
If you're interested in a set of 906's that are done-up and ready to go, I believe I know the whereabouts...
Your car should get some attention driving around, really neat car.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/26/14 01:37 PM
Quote:
If you're interested in a set of 906's that are done-up and ready to go, I believe I know the whereabouts...
Oddly enough I was thinking about putting an ad up to look for that very thing...
You may be the man, sir.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/26/14 01:39 PM
Quote:
Your car should get some attention driving around, really neat car.
Honestly, I would love to have nice enough weather to test your theory! Lol.
Thank you.
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/16/14 04:32 AM
So have you done anything but plan mods for the Mirada?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/16/14 07:56 PM
Quote:
So have you done anything but plan mods for the Mirada?
I've actually been buying tools, trying to become a contortionist, and then staring blindly at the Bee trying to figure out how to get the leaking freeze plug out. No luck so far...
I do have a new plan for the Mirada, though!
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/17/14 03:37 AM
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/17/14 05:32 AM
Quote:
Quote:
So have you done anything but plan mods for the Mirada?
I've actually been buying tools, trying to become a contortionist, and then staring blindly at the Bee trying to figure out how to get the leaking freeze plug out. No luck so far...
I do have a new plan for the Mirada, though!
Stop being a baby and pull the motor, you don't see me whining about having to pull it out of the R/T
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/17/14 02:36 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Quote:
So have you done anything but plan mods for the Mirada?
I've actually been buying tools, trying to become a contortionist, and then staring blindly at the Bee trying to figure out how to get the leaking freeze plug out. No luck so far...
I do have a new plan for the Mirada, though!
Stop being a baby and pull the motor, you don't see me whining about having to pull it out of the R/T
Yeah, but you have some things I don't right now. Like a garage. Cherry picker. Air compressor. Concrete floor to work on. Some place (Arizona!) to keep the cold off you. A roof to keep the weather off you...
So the 
will continue!
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/17/14 03:20 PM
well I have a garage(no heat) crappy air compressor,and a cherry picker, but they're three hours east of you.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/17/14 03:41 PM
I have an offer of a garage to use. But in order to get there, I first need to put a wheel bearing in my truck and borrow a trailer. It never seems to end.
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/17/14 05:00 PM
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I have an offer of a garage to use. But in order to get there, I first need to put a wheel bearing in my truck and borrow a trailer. It never seems to end.
It does seem to be never ending, this next weekend I get to pull the 302 and C4 from the 37 and reseal both, I can't drive it it leaks like the Exxon Valdez
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/17/14 05:43 PM
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I have an offer of a garage to use. But in order to get there, I first need to put a wheel bearing in my truck and borrow a trailer. It never seems to end.
It does seem to be never ending, this next weekend I get to pull the 302 and C4 from the 37 and reseal both, I can't drive it it leaks like the Exxon Valdez
I'm kinda glad I'm only working on one right now. Aside from keeping the daily drivers on the road. I can still make plans for the other two!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/17/14 08:17 PM
I'm actually slowly losing interest in the older stuff. Just not enough time to work on it anymore and the frustration of not being able to find a place to work on it. I'm definietly not equipped to do what needs done on the cars I have right now. We'll see how this summer turns out. But it may be time to unload and play with a newer Challenger.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/17/14 11:45 PM
may be time to thin the heard and concentrate on one old car.I know my road runner and the wife's VW are enough for me.
Darin you just need to down size your collection and work on the Bee.
I started doing that myself and also getting rid of parts I don't need anymore. Once you get to driving the Bee your mindset will change and all will be Good again. If I can help let me know.
David
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/18/14 12:48 PM
I found a place to do the head as I spent 6 hours replacing eh wheel bearing in my truck. Maybe once I put some miles on it I won't be so annoyed. You might be right. Well, if you have a set of ported 906/452's, that would help!
No ported heads that are not being used at the moment.
I have a set of Indy SR heads but that motor is too much of a wussy
for them. Lol
Those heads will do you fine for that motor so no sense spending any money on different ones. Use your money for more important things like buying me gifts because I am a Nice guy. Lol
Good to hear you have a place now to work on it at.
I will take those heads back if you don't want them?
Take Care Darin.
David
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/19/14 09:54 AM
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No ported heads that are not being used at the moment.
I have a set of Indy SR heads but that motor is too much of a wussy
for them. Lol
Those heads will do you fine for that motor so no sense spending any money on different ones. Use your money for more important things like buying me gifts because I am a Nice guy. Lol
Good to hear you have a place now to work on it at.
I will take those heads back if you don't want them?
Take Care Darin.
David
I was just going to find a set that was done and put on whenI pull these. Kind of for a seamless transaction. If I'm going to pull one, I'm pulling both!
It's not that at all! You didn't say that much was done to them(or my memory sucks) so I was just looking for another set done a little more in case I found a reasonable price on some.
I'm fresh out of gifts! But hopefully I'll give you the satisfaction of seeing your old bullet run in May!
I HOPE you do make it in May. We are taking Janet's car again for the whole weekend.
Hope to see you and the car there THIS YEAR!!!
David
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/20/14 11:55 AM
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I HOPE you do make it in May. We are taking Janet's car again for the whole weekend.
Hope to see you and the car there THIS YEAR!!!
David
I'll be there for sure. Hopefully so will the car...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/28/14 08:50 AM
Not a lot to report on. Well, nothing actually. I got the car moved to the new home. I got my out of state vehicle inspection done in the process. Maybe it will be warm enough to work on it this weekend. It is finally inside, if you can call it that.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/30/14 06:03 PM
Cozy in the new home.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/31/14 07:13 AM
might not be a 60x60 climate controlled building, but it's out of the weather.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/31/14 12:42 PM
That it is. I worked on it for a while last night. I found enough bits to put together a tool to shove the plug in. But I ran out of threads before the plug let go. So I'll try to scrounge some more stuff at work today and get it finished up tonight. Then I'll re-rebuild the distributor and get a heavier spring in it. Exhaust this weekend...
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/31/14 04:34 PM
will you be taking the Bee to the Nats?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/31/14 07:40 PM
That's my plan. The swap meet in Dalton in two weeks, the Jeff Johnson show in May, Carlisle in July and the Nats and Woodward in August. Maybe Norwalk in September if I have any vacation left by then.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/01/14 05:03 PM
great. I don't think Carlisle is going to happen for me, but I've got my sights set on The Nats.Hope to see you there!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/04/14 02:14 AM
You should recognize the car!
Mini update. I tried every pry bar and screwdriver I own, and there was no way to get to the leaking plug. Despite what all the people told me about how I could just pop it out with a screw driver! (Noone who had done it before mentioned screwdrivers or pry bars, but wood working clamps and homemade tools) My guess is this is not a fairly common issue, and you really have no room to work unless you take the hood off...
So I built myself a tool out of a coupler nut, a piece of steel with holes drilled in it, an assortment of 5/16 bolts, and a nut. I was able to poke another hole in the plug. In the end, it is no longer leaking. Thanks Feets and JB Weld. I'll do a more permanent fix when I can take the heads off, but that ain't in the plans right now. It doesn't leak, doesn't move, so I'll run it until it strands me.
So next up is getting the distributor set up and coming up with an exhaust system.
I found my floating taking issue, the plate the pickup coil is attached to had a lot of play in it. I replaced the "tripod" spring out of a distributor that was under 30 years old and everything is relatively peachy.
Posted By: feets
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/05/14 03:55 AM
If you ever need to know the improper way to fix things all you need to do is ask.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/05/14 03:33 PM
I'll keep you at the top of the list!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/14/14 12:52 AM
More progress. I picked up a Jegs X-pipe, a pair of Pypes Violator mufflers, and after a trip to Jegs, then a trip to Summit, a set of collector extensions with an s-bend in them. It took me most of the day, but the car now has exhaust on it. I had to run out to use a chop saw to shorten one of the collector extensions, and had to get some reducers because as has been my experience with Jegs "univsrsal" kits, they just weren't quite right. There is no flared end on any of the pipes in the kit. So I either had to butt weld them together (no welder) or use a 2.5" to 2.25" reducer. I don't think it will be a terrible bottleneck. After I had it 98% done, I found Auto Zone had 2.5" to 2.5" slip on connections (that they were out of). But I wasn't taking it back apart. I still need to bend or fab a rear hanger, and find a set of turn downs. But it sounds GREAT!!!! I love the Violator mufflers.
I will most likely take it somewhere once I get a couple more things straightened out and have it all taken apart, squared up, and welded. It isn't the prettiest, it's not even or square, and I can't tell if the mufflers are even when I'm laying on my back under it. But it'll do until I get the new engine built, the engine bay repainted, and the tti system ordered!
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/14/14 04:41 PM
that's great.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/20/14 01:29 PM
I finished up the exhaust yesterday and finally drove it. It needs plugs, which I have, and a little tweaking. But it runs down the road and goes into all 4 gears and reverse. It needs the front end done for sure, and both of my grease caps on the front wheels flew off.
But I'll get to all that. I'll hopefully get plugs in it today and play with it some more.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/21/14 12:22 AM
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/21/14 03:39 AM
Another update. Over the weekend I replaced the headlight adjusters on the drivers side fender, put a dipstick and tube in, changed plugs, finished up the exhaust, installed the turn signal lever that didn't get done when I moved the car before, removed the power steering for some work to the pump and a new hose install, and drove it!
There were downsides. It still needs timed and the carb needs adjusted. Right now the pump shot, I think. The nose needs raised because turns to the left grab the wheel opening molding on the left fender. It makes a terrible noise. It needs rear springs because, well, they are 45 years old and the thing will look like a quad if I bring the front up. I need to gget a good ground on the tail lights. The turn signals don't work at all in the back. I need to put bulbs in the dash.
But the worst part of the day, I had the fan hit the plastic cover on the washer pump wire and knock off the cover. On my last spin today, the car ran like it was on a rev limiter and once it cleared up, the ammeter was no longer charging. When I got home I popped the hood and the new wiring harness I bought last August was charred and the wrap melted. The washer pump wire blew over and shorted the blue field wire to the case of the alternator and fried the harness. So there is another $105 lesson to me. Tape up the wires not being used.
It doesn't run as strong as I know it's capable of, but I'm driving it. That's a start. The hard part is over. Now it's time to get everything broken in and keep chipping away at the little stuff! I couldn't be happier! (Well, if I hadn't shorted the harness, I could be happier...)
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/21/14 06:34 AM
sucks about the wires, but at least you can drive it. that'll keep you motovated. when I got my road runner it sat low in the back like a Challenger. One of the POs was supposed to have raced it, and i think that's whay it only had four leaves in the back. we stuck in another main, and a couple partials. sits real nice(I like the back end up) and a buddy had the springs, so all it cost me was a trip the local big truck dealer for new u bolts and center bolts.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/21/14 05:01 PM
That's cool! I would like to get mine straight and in primer at some point. Right now I just want to get it reliable and screaming...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/21/14 05:14 PM
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/21/14 05:17 PM
Power steering leak located.
O-ring dried out. Amazing that was the only place leaking.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/28/14 03:31 AM
Videos.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/28/14 06:57 AM
Posted By: mattsmopars
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/28/14 08:38 PM
Nice work your coming right along!
Matt
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/29/14 03:16 PM
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Nice work your coming right along!
Matt
Yes! I have some more things lined up for the near future. I have three weeks to make it fairly reliable...
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/29/14 11:44 PM
Stay on it!! Driving these things is the most important part. Make it safe and reliable. The rest is not critical to enjoying the car.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/30/14 01:15 AM
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Stay on it!! Driving these things is the most important part. Make it safe and reliable. The rest is not critical to enjoying the car.
Absolutely. Driving it threw gasoline mixed with nitroglycerin on my fire to get it going...
I am collecting front end parts and have someone to rebuild the front end for me. I'll be doing the front and rear shocks/springs/bushings torsion bars, the power steering pump (I know, I know. That's how it came) and change out the 3.23's for 3.91's while adding a new sure grip and I'm done working on it . I'll be driving it!
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/30/14 02:37 AM
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Stay on it!! Driving these things is the most important part. Make it safe and reliable. The rest is not critical to enjoying the car.
Absolutely. Driving it threw gasoline mixed with nitroglycerin on my fire to get it going...
I am collecting front end parts and have someone to rebuild the front end for me. I'll be doing the front and rear shocks/springs/bushings torsion bars, the power steering pump (I know, I know. That's how it came) and change out the 3.23's for 3.91's while adding a new sure grip and I'm done working on it . I'll be driving it!
How tall are your rear tires? The 3.91s in my '70 made long freeway drives rather unpleasant and pricey even running 275-60-15s. Something to keep in mind 'cause I know you want to drive the heck out of it. Too bad you're so far away you could roll it in here and we'd knock all that out in short order. We could even change out the steering box.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/30/14 06:22 PM
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Stay on it!! Driving these things is the most important part. Make it safe and reliable. The rest is not critical to enjoying the car.
Absolutely. Driving it threw gasoline mixed with nitroglycerin on my fire to get it going...
I am collecting front end parts and have someone to rebuild the front end for me. I'll be doing the front and rear shocks/springs/bushings torsion bars, the power steering pump (I know, I know. That's how it came) and change out the 3.23's for 3.91's while adding a new sure grip and I'm done working on it . I'll be driving it!
How tall are your rear tires? The 3.91s in my '70 made long freeway drives rather unpleasant and pricey even running 275-60-15s. Something to keep in mind 'cause I know you want to drive the heck out of it. Too bad you're so far away you could roll it in here and we'd knock all that out in short order. We could even change out the steering box.
It had 275/60/15 E.T. Streets on it. I may go with 3.55's, but I have the 3.91's now. I think the 3.23 would be okay, but I think the sure grip is shot and I have to get in there, anyway. We'll see how it shakes out. I had a '70 Dart with 3.91's and a much shorter tire, and I didn't mind the rpm it turned at 70. But that was about 15 miles at the most... Not many hours to Woodward, Carlisle, etc.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/30/14 08:26 PM
my last road runner had 3.55s. 2756015 tire. I cruised I 70 at 70 no sweet going to Columbus. The one before that had 3.91s, with 235s IIRC, it was tached out at 60. OK local, but not on the highway. I have 3.23s in this one, and it's a good all around ratio.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/01/14 05:04 PM
I've never been a fan of 3.23's.3.55 has alwaysbeen my first choice.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/03/14 01:59 AM
Took it for a ride a bit ago. Needs some carb work. Nose raised. Turn signal switch. But I can power shift it into third... Important stuff.
I really don't like the 3.23. I can also tell it needs some more tuning. It hooks hard between gears. I was kind of surprised it won't turn a tire, though. I'm pretty sure a 383 that went 11's should he able to turn the tires, drag radials or not.
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/03/14 03:14 AM
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I was kind of surprised it won't turn a tire, though. I'm pretty sure a 383 that went 11's should he able to turn the tires, drag radials or not.
Probably that PS pump dragging it down. Told ya so.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/03/14 04:31 AM
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I was kind of surprised it won't turn a tire, though. I'm pretty sure a 383 that went 11's should he able to turn the tires, drag radials or not.
Probably that PS pump dragging it down. Told ya so.
That's most likely not it. The power steering pump is laying on the work bench in pieces...
It's probably in the tuning..
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/04/14 12:14 AM
gotta be the tuning. My 383 can turn my tires just about anytime. My rear has no tag(naturally) but it feels like 3.23s to me.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/04/14 02:43 AM
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gotta be the tuning. My 383 can turn my tires just about anytime. My rear has no tag(naturally) but it feels like 3.23s to me.
I counted the revolutions when I was under the car. I know it's a 3.23. I'll get a jet/squirter/accelerator can kit this week.It starts well and hadn't gotten hot yet, so the timing is close.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/10/14 03:01 AM
Well, one more step forward. I got my new engine harness today. Installed it and the only casualty was a lost coil nut. I also ordered my turn signal switch off eBay, but it won't be here until Thursday. So that means I just need to get everything else finished by Thursday. Then all I will have to do is fight the switch before the Classic on Friday...
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/10/14 06:39 AM
where did you get your harness? how do you like it?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/10/14 12:37 PM
I got it from Classic Industries. They had them in stock and Year One didn't. It's the same thing, an M&H harness. I thought Year One had exclusive deals with them. Glad to see they don't.
I had it plugged in in about 30 minutes. Now if I hadn't dropped that pesky nut...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/20/14 02:41 AM
I got the power steering fixed tonight. (Stow it, Shoozy)
Got the car cleaned out and cleaned up. Exhaust shop tomorrow, then many miles this weekend...
Posted By: AZ_A12_BEE
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/20/14 02:51 AM
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I got the power steering fixed tonight. (Stow it, Shoozy)
Got the car cleaned out and cleaned up. Exhaust shop tomorrow, then many miles this weekend...
Post more videos of you driving it, just the car, not you
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/20/14 03:08 AM
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I got the power steering fixed tonight. (Stow it, Shoozy)
Got the car cleaned out and cleaned up. Exhaust shop tomorrow, then many miles this weekend...
Post more videos of you driving it, just the car, not you
Lol. Will do!
Posted By: mopar383
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/20/14 12:48 PM
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I got the power steering fixed tonight. (Stow it, Shoozy)
Got the car cleaned out and cleaned up. Exhaust shop tomorrow, then many miles this weekend...
Post more videos of you driving it, just the car, not you
Lol. Will do!
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/21/14 02:46 AM
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I got the power steering fixed tonight. (Stow it, Shoozy)
Got the car cleaned out and cleaned up. Exhaust shop tomorrow, then many miles this weekend...
Consider it stowed. Have fun this weekend bruddah.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/24/14 02:28 PM
Put some miles on it last night. It is actually a pretty nice riding car. I think it will even be better once I get all the suspension redone.
On the way home I stood on it from a light and hit second, and I tossed the power steering belt which in turn tossed the alternator belt. It got a little warm. But didn't blow out my hillbilly soft plug fix, but I'll be after a narrower power steering belt. I think Shoozy may have the right idea. No power steering =no belt to toss...
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/24/14 02:43 PM
The 68-70 ride great and drive pretty decent (for the vintage) with a few refinements. Sorry about your belts, glad it didn't do a serious overheat. Hang some belts and get back out there.
And not to be a wise guy but I may still have a manual box that survived both cross country moves. If you're interested I'll start the search.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/24/14 05:06 PM
I have a box on the Dart. I'm more concerned about finding a column. Right now, in the list of "needs", it's not high. I will maybe look if I can't get a belt to stay on.
Thanks!
It's great to pilot a classic ride, though. Even if it is very rough around the edges.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/24/14 06:10 PM
glad you got some miles on her! but.....
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/24/14 07:15 PM
My apologies... I will get more pics/video!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/25/14 05:41 AM
Welp, I have more pics. Not really ones I prefer to take when I want to be driving it...
I will know tomorrow if I will have another case I can piece together to make one out of two. I have a 3.91 and might have a 489 case under the Dart. If I do, I have enough parts to put together another pig. I will upgrade the yoke, and start searching for another driveshaft.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/25/14 05:04 PM
ah...shifting on a hill again( Dad was a truck driver) well she ain't gonna break sitting inthe garage gathering dust. Too bad, but you'll make it better. And now you can swap gears like you've been wanting to do.
My first mopar was a '73 340 4 speed road runner. guy I got it from would leave black marks all over his road. Two days after I bought the car,the drive shaft fell off. I called dad for a tow, and to this day I'm sure he thinks I was out hot rodding, which I wasn't.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/25/14 05:52 PM
The Dart has a 489 cased 3.23 pig. Both wheels turn the same direction so it is either a sure grip, Lincoln locker, or a spool... I have honeydo stuff to do first, but I'll get it out today.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/26/14 01:45 AM
Today was a good day. Got a lot done, and got to play cars. I pulled the center chunk out of the Dart. Bingo. Cone type sure grip. Right now I'm going to put it in and put a drive shaft in it. Then I will drive the thing less abusively. I will take the old chunk out and put my gear in it, maybe upgrade the sure grip, definitely going to upgrade the yoke. I'm wondering if I should go with the 1350 (?) Yoke or stay with the 7290.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/26/14 01:47 AM
I'm having a lot of trouble linking my photos...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/13/14 05:46 PM
I changed plans. I sold the pig out of the Dart. Bought a new yoke, an install kit, and crush sleeve eliminator, new solid u-joints, and it's going together now.
This may have been a contributing factor in why things broke.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/13/14 05:48 PM
I felt the bearings would be the next problem if I left them in, so I am changing them out, too.
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/13/14 09:10 PM
Capital idea...
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/13/14 10:00 PM
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/16/14 12:48 PM
I put another 20 or 30 miles on it yesterday. Took all 5 of us to the Father's Day car show in my hometown. Didn't enter it, but looked around. The car loads up after being hot and sitting for a bit. The tires rub the top of the wheel house when there are three in the back seat and it sees a significant bump. It needs a lot of tuning and upgrades. I'll start today.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/16/14 06:15 PM
toss in another main lea on each side and you won't rub.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/16/14 07:10 PM
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toss in another main lea on each side and you won't rub.
I thought about that. I was just going to put Super Stocks on it, since it needs a new set, anyway. But I thought about adding a spring or two if I can find someone with an old set they are going to throw out.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/17/14 02:20 AM
I think i mentioned it earlier, that's what we did with mine. It only had four leaves one each side, and sat low like a E Body/ We added another main and a couple shorter ones. rides a little stiff on bad roads, but i love the look and no rubbing, even on uneave surfaces.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/17/14 02:45 AM
That may be the route to go...
Posted By: RSNOMO
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/18/14 04:12 AM
(Eaton Spring)...
(John R Spring)...
Both in this neck 'a the woods...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/18/14 02:04 PM
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(Eaton Spring)...
(John R Spring)...
Both in this neck 'a the woods...
I'll have to call the latter. Eaton Spring prices are high enough I could buy 2 sets of Super Stocks with the front hangers. If I had that green right now I'd put Cal-Tracs on it!
Thank you for the help.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/02/14 02:26 AM
It looks like the Beest won't make it to Carlisle, after all. It isn't ready for the trip, and the truck needs tires.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/13/14 12:09 AM
Not sure who keeps bumping this up, but here's an update.
When I lost the u-joint, it cause more damage than I thought. I got under the car to adjust the clutch and the tie rod ends to make a trip to the Nats. I found this.
From the inspection cover bolt hole all the way up to the release for hole.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/13/14 12:11 AM
Inside, same crack.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/13/14 12:12 AM
Front bearing retainer. You can't tell really clearly, but it's cracked.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/13/14 12:14 AM
Passenger side. Inspection cover hole all the way to the bearing retainer.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/13/14 12:15 AM
Another.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/13/14 12:24 AM
I decided to just give it a rest for this summer. I have some plans, which include a Lakewood bellhousing, a new driveshaft, a 3.55 gear, a bit of porting to the heads, a new M-1 intake, and to get the power steering pump and box rebuilt. Of course I am still doing the front end and torsion bars in that list.
I'm undecided if I am going to get a brand new center chunk and new axles, or just bite the bullet and buy a Dr. Diff Dana 60.
I'm going to drive it a lot next summer
(I hope) and also beat on it. I'm leaning towards a Dana. That way it is as upgraded as I need it when I go to a 440.(Which is after I wring every last HP out of the 383.)
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/13/14 12:45 AM
I was going to sell my GTS to get some things done on the Bee. But lack of interest from others and having it home to boost the interest by me, I may not.
I took some pics of both of my rides together for the first time ever.
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/13/14 02:19 AM
Crap Darin, it's always something(s). The offer is still open if you want to use my MP porting templates. PM an address and I'll get 'em to ya.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/13/14 02:27 AM
Ain't that the truth! I'll let you know for sure. Thanks once more.
Posted By: booger
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/13/14 03:50 PM
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Not sure who keeps bumping this up, but here's an update.
When I lost the u-joint, it cause more damage than I thought. I got under the car to adjust the clutch and the tie rod ends to make a trip to the Nats. I found this. [
Good that you found it before you hit the road. I had a bellhousing crack in two radially once and the pistol grip about beat me silly before I could get stopped.
Seriously, imagine what would have happened if the trans had dropped down. Yikes.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/13/14 05:04 PM
Quote:
Quote:
Not sure who keeps bumping this up, but here's an update.
When I lost the u-joint, it cause more damage than I thought. I got under the car to adjust the clutch and the tie rod ends to make a trip to the Nats. I found this. [
Good that you found it before you hit the road. I had a bellhousing crack in two radially once and the pistol grip about beat me silly before I could get stopped.
Seriously, imagine what would have happened if the trans had dropped down. Yikes.
It was ugly enough when the u-joint went. I thought the car was going to vibrate apart. Also happy it stayed in one piece. 
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/14/14 05:07 AM
Posted By: fc7_plumcrazy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/26/14 11:47 PM
hope the Bee will be on the road again soon
Carsten
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 08/28/14 12:09 PM
Quote:
hope the Bee will be on the road again soon
Carsten
Maybe not soon, per se, but I will have it in upgraded and roaming again in early '15. I've located and purchased some things I need to fix it, and I've made a deal on the Dart that will get me some clean sheet metal for future repairs.
Posted By: fc7_plumcrazy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/03/14 01:19 PM
good luck with the progress
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 09/03/14 05:37 PM
Quote:
good luck with the progress
Thank you! I'm ready to get started. But I'm still recovering from the summer show season. Lol.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/17/14 05:45 PM
As often happens, some deals fell through and the project is getting sidelined.
It's tucked away in a storage unit, and I'm starting to research what to do as far as long term storage. The gas tank may need either flushed out or filled up with Sta-Bil added. I don't want to muck up my new fuel system. The brakes I'm good with, I used silicon brake fluid and stainless lines(don't ask me why, I think I just got sucked into shiny things. They make the crusty underside look worse!
), so the brakes should hold up. I'm grabbing some desiccant packs from work for moisture buildup.
Posted By: Sneke_Eyez
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/17/14 09:43 PM
Sorry to hear that, but I know the feeling.
I was supposed to restore my 69 Post Coupe 5 years ago, and I decided to go to law school instead - the car has sat since, and I'm just itching to get to work on it, but there's just no time with starting my career.
Good luck getting it stored and you'll get to it soon!
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/18/14 10:13 PM
with our winters (hope not another one like last year) the car would be parked anyway, SO save up some coin and have it ready for Spring.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/19/14 02:52 PM
I have some more pressing needs, but I'm trying to stash some cash back to continue to work on it.
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/19/14 05:23 PM
You can always sell it and then not have to stress over it any more.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/20/14 08:07 PM
Quote:
You can always sell it and then not have to stress over it any more.
Oh, there is no stress. It's tucked away. It's paid for. If someone comes along with a stack of cash, I'll sell it. The likelihood of that happening is pretty slim!
I have plans, but right now my daily driver is at 194,000 miles and I am starting to look for a newer replacement. I need some things around the homestead and the Bee is third in line right now. 
I'll keep my eyes open for a deal on a bellhousing and a bearing retainer and put it back togther sometime soon. But I need to do the front end before it gets some serious miles on it.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/20/14 09:35 PM
I've got an extra bell gathering dust.......
Posted By: fc7_plumcrazy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/12/14 11:30 PM
good luck and I hope you are back on the road soon
Carsten
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/17/15 01:52 AM
New toys for Christmas. Waiting for a break in the weather to start installing them.
Posted By: MuuMuu101
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/17/15 06:59 AM
OoooOOooOooOoooooo... Shinies!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/17/15 02:17 PM
Hopefully it leads to less breaking!!
Posted By: Desmond
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/17/15 04:40 PM
Cool! Your Bee is a favorite of mine on here. The wheels you have on the car now are cooler than those xmas Centerlines you plan to put on it
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/17/15 05:06 PM
Thanks!
Centerlines have always been my favorite. My guess is I will have a new set of wheels on it pretty frequently. I still want to try Super Sports, and chrome Magnum 500's. Maybe steelies and dog dishes... But it was coded for road wheels, so I think I like the idea of Magnums on it, even if they aren't "right".
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/18/15 02:15 AM
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/18/15 03:24 PM
Quote:
Dang D just seeing this. I had C-lines on my '70 better-than-'68-bee. Looks like you have some well thought investments there.
I fixed it for you...
I won't go to a girly-matic, so some upgrades were required if I was going to be hard on it. Which I am!
Posted By: gtsuperbee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/18/15 08:54 PM
sweet. glad to see you are making progress. The wheels should look great. Ironically, I was just at summit checking these out for my black bee. Only $500.00 for a set of 4.
Posted By: gtsuperbee
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/18/15 08:55 PM
It's hard for me to change this look, I just want to try something different
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/18/15 09:25 PM
Quote:
It's hard for me to change this look, I just want to try something different
Your car is the reason mine will have Cragars on it at some point...
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/19/15 01:21 AM
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Quote:
Dang D just seeing this. I had C-lines on my '70 better-than-'68-bee. Looks like you have some well thought investments there.
I fixed it for you...
I won't go to a girly-matic, so some upgrades were required if I was going to be hard on it. Which I am!
on the lowly '68 bashing. And BB B-bodies need to be shifted. Hard.
Posted By: 1969 HEMI R-T
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/19/15 01:55 AM
Center lines are my favorite also. it will look great!
Posted By: jeffl300
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/19/15 06:00 AM
Saw this posted on line somewhere today and thought of your car......PURTY'D up! lol.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/19/15 05:39 PM
Quote:
Saw this posted on line somewhere today and thought of your car......PURTY'D up! lol.
Posted By: fc7_plumcrazy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/21/15 09:22 PM
please no 15" Magnums. It is a Mopar not a Ford
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/23/15 03:34 AM
Well, unless I put it all back to original I won't put 14 inchers back on it. I just look at it as another 15" aftermarket wheel. They don't say FoMoCo on 'em!
Posted By: 69_SIX_PACK
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/24/15 05:34 AM
Quote:
New toys for Christmas. Waiting for a break in the weather to start installing them.
WOW you must have been a good boy last year. Lots of goodies there. I bet you can't wait for the weather to break!
I like your Bee with the slots but I've always liked the Auto Drag Centrelines as well.
Dave
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/24/15 08:13 PM
Quote:
Quote:
New toys for Christmas. Waiting for a break in the weather to start installing them.
WOW you must have been a good boy last year. Lots of goodies there. I bet you can't wait for the weather to break!
I like your Bee with the slots but I've always liked the Auto Drag Centrelines as well.
Dave
I'm chomping at the bit to get started...
Well it looks like you are taking it to the next level now.
It will be too much for my 70 bee (13.40's) but I can run you with Janet's RR now.
Maybe the A12 "IF" I get it done.
Looks like Nice parts other then those rims. YUCK !!!!
Keep at it Darin.
David
Posted By: fc7_plumcrazy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/25/15 12:41 PM
I really like your Bee with the current wheels.
I am not fancy for Centerlines at all.
But you have to like it
Carsten
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/25/15 08:18 PM
Quote:
Well it looks like you are taking it to the next level now.
It will be too much for my 70 bee (13.40's) but I can run you with Janet's RR now.
Maybe the A12 "IF" I get it done.
Looks like Nice parts other then those rims. YUCK !!!!
Keep at it Darin.
David
Lol! It still needs assembled and tuned and such. Don't throw down the crown too fast! Weren't you promised a 12.99 from your Super Bee? I'm sure I won't have anything for the RR, but we can find out!
Don't hate on my beautiful new wheels!!
Thank you!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/25/15 08:19 PM
Quote:
I really like your Bee with the current wheels.
I am not fancy for Centerlines at all.
But you have to like it
Carsten
I like the slots, but I already sold them. I actually prefer Super Tricks, but Center Lines are the next best thing IMO...
Again Centerlines equal YUCK !!!!!!
Yes I was promised 12.99 and it didn't happen so I win the steak dinner for 2. He would have tried more things but it was a little too far from a 12.99 for it to happen at Monster Mopar so he said I won.
I will wait and see how it all turns out for you. Most of the parts look Nice.
David
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/12/15 07:23 PM
I am now back to work on the car. I got the exhaust off of it last night and dropped the transmission. Won't be long and I'll have those beautiful Center Lines rolling down the road! (That's for you, David...)
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/12/15 07:25 PM
The destruction took out the whole bearing retainer on the trans. I should have the bellhousing off tonight. Then I'll start checking the runout on the Lakwood. McRobb will be taking a bit of my cash.
That is Good Darin. Roll them Ugly wheels down the road and Hope Someone hits them or picks them up for scrap.
Just so you Don't put them on the Bee. LOL
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/22/15 02:57 PM
Ten day update?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/23/15 05:22 PM
Fair enough! I spent Saturday underneath it after a trip to Summit. The flywheel/clutch/bellhousing/and transmission are all installed. I need to get the shifter mount off the old trans, install the tranny mount, and find the right speedo gear so I can hook up the speedometer. I replaced the brake hardware on the front brakes because the left top caliper retainer caught something (stick on weights??) and bent back over itself.
I had the front tires mounted and out them on. Those Center Lines look SWEET on the front!!
Tonight I'll try to get the 8.75 out from under it and get the brakes switched over to the Dana. The plan is to have it back on the ground(after I measure for a driveshaft) and get the engine back together and the the headers changed.
I've been working on it for about an hour or so every night it's not too cold to roll around on unheated concrete.
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/23/15 11:53 PM
Thanks!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/24/15 12:02 AM
You're welcome!!
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/24/15 02:22 AM
Woodward this year?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/24/15 12:45 PM
I took the week off. So I hope so. I need to find someone up northways that knows a good place to drop a truck and trailer. I don't think 5 people in a triple black car with no modern comforts will be too happy, so I'm going to try to trailer it up. Then drop the truck and trailer somewhere and spend Wednesday on (Donut Cutter, Henry Ford Museum, Greenfield Village, and the Cruise) exploring Michigan in the Bee.
Posted By: rocksmopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/24/15 01:34 PM
American Racing Outlaw II's are like Centerlines on a budget!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/24/15 03:52 PM
I happened to get a pretty good deal on 4 polished wheels with centers and lug nuts and two like new 275/60/15's.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/24/15 05:58 PM
Quote:
American Racing Outlaw II's are like Centerlines on a budget!
If it weren't for the white top, I knew a car that looked just like that. Faux-Center Lines and all. He sold it to the owner of Texas Toy Box at the Mopar Nats many moons ago.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/24/15 06:04 PM
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/28/15 03:09 AM
I'm in the home stretch now. Heads are on, headers are on, exhaust is on, clutch linkage is adjusted, brake lines are run, and now it's just reinstalling stuff to get it running.
I did, however, cause myself a lot more work. I put the driver's side header in and didn't add the starter. So now I either need to pull it back apart, (which will be extra sucky due to the exhaust being hooked up) or pull the steering column and slide it in that way. The steering column may be easier at this point. Sometimes it would pay to slow down and make sure I don't do things twice!!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/29/15 07:53 PM
I should be able to get it running tonight. I have gotten WAY off track with my build, as far as spending on it. I have all the vital components to hopefully put some miles (hard and otherwise)on it this summer. I am still going to work my way through the front suspension, steering, and start tidying up the engine bay and the interior. I'm thinking in a couple winters I will start doing some parts of the body. Stay tuned. I'll get some picture tonight.
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/30/15 02:39 AM
Little over 100 days until Woodward D
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/30/15 05:16 PM
I'm on the right track! I got it running last night.
Posted By: RUNCHARGER
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/01/15 02:57 AM
That's always a milestone.
Sheldon
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/01/15 03:16 AM
Lol. Indeed it is.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/04/15 06:13 PM
I got it home and got the brakes bled yesterday. I got the column back in from my starter install. Tonight I will start rechecking everything and start little projects along the way.
With the gf's Ramcharger.
Posted By: RUNCHARGER
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/05/15 03:54 AM
I was thinking I was going to hate those wheels but that looks pretty darn good. I bet you can't wait to throw a few shifts in it.
Sheldon
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/05/15 08:30 PM
I was thinking I was going to hate those wheels but that looks pretty darn good. I bet you can't wait to throw a few shifts in it.
Sheldon
I have always liked them, but they actually look better than I expected. I'm very happy with the look and the stance.
I'm restraining myself until I've gotten to the break in mileage on the clutch and the gears, but yes, I'm looking forward to letting it loose.
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/06/15 02:49 AM
Agree on the wheels D, looking great off the stands. And I love "drivers". Bang 'em hard
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/06/15 07:31 PM
Bang 'em hard
Of course!
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/13/15 01:20 AM
So is it broke yet?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/13/15 01:50 AM
Well, yes. Sort of. I'm going to have to go through the engine. I'm not sure what happened, whether it is an oiling problem or an age problem, but the rocker arms ground themselves up, and now there is most likely shrapnel in the engine.
Posted By: 69_SIX_PACK
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/13/15 04:07 PM
Man you aren't having much luck! Did a cam bearing spin stopping oil to the heads? I had that happen once. Then I ended up rebuilding the engine.
You are getting anywhere with your one foot forward and two steps back. Hopefully everything works out.
Dave
Posted By: RUNCHARGER
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/13/15 04:37 PM
Man sometimes a guy wants a new hobby when it's going like that.
Sheldon
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/13/15 08:22 PM
Man you aren't having much luck! Did a cam bearing spin stopping oil to the heads? I had that happen once. Then I ended up rebuilding the engine.
You are getting anywhere with your one foot forward and two steps back. Hopefully everything works out.
Dave
I'm not sure yet. I am going to start tearing it down this weekend. I'm not sure if it spun a bearing, or something got in while I was putting the heads on it and clogged the filter, oil passage, etc. The stock gauge was pegged over 80 psi and normally it would come down when it warmed up.
It's disappointing, but I have to keep looking at the vision in my head of the "done" car... lol. I'll take the month of June to get it apart, clean it and do rings/bearings/gaskets and get it back in. I have a friend that has another crank, so I may get it cleaned up and buy new bearings and cam bearings and have them ready to go in. I priced most things out and I can probably get it cleaned up and back together for under $700.
I kinda figured I would have some issues, but everything that breaks I have upgraded. Pretty soon the thing should be bulletproof!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/13/15 08:23 PM
Man sometimes a guy wants a new hobby when it's going like that.
Sheldon
Lol. I agree. I thought about it. But I wanted to do it with what I could get my hands on, and sometimes you pay the price. I got to drive it, so that keeps the fire burning. I'll have it out this summer if I have to sell a kidney!
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/14/15 02:08 AM
Crap Daren, I was just kidding. Sorry for the turn of events man.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 05/14/15 02:22 AM
No worries. It's a speed bump in my road to tire abuse. If nothing is too hosed, I won't have a terrible amount in it. I'll put a new oil pump and possibly a new cam in it. Give me a month or so, and I'll be putting rubber to road.
(P.S. I'm putting a MANual steering box in it while the engine is out...)
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/15/15 02:41 AM
OK it's been a month - anything good happening?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/16/15 07:58 PM
I'm kinda idle right now. I bought a '69 HP block, but ended up trading it and a '69 HP 440 block to my engine guy. He's going through the engine for me, due to my lack of a place to do it and the money to replace what needs replaced right now. New crank, new rod/main/cam bearings, new rings, ball hone, new timing set, new gaskets, new oil pump, and cleaned up and run in on a stand. The cam lived, maybe new lifters to come. I would guess in the next week I'll get it back and start looking for a place to put it all back together. Hope to be wheeling it again by early July.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/16/15 08:09 PM
Just talked to Mosier, and it should be ready to run by this weekend.
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/22/15 02:12 AM
Keep sluggin' it out. If this crap was easy everyone would do it. Although personally it does at times feel kinda good not doing the thrash anymore. Again D - I live vicariously through y'all
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/22/15 07:18 PM
The engine is almost done. I should get it tomorrow or Wednesday, and hope to be running by the weekend.
I'm way too anxious to give up now. Luckily it has rained constantly since it's been down, so I haven't missed much drive time.
Looks Good Darrin !!!
Keep at it and you will be rewarded with tire smoke and black marks and one BIG SMILE on your face.
David
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 06/24/15 01:25 PM
Will do! I appreciate all the help you've given me, too.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/01/15 07:19 PM
Posted By: MuuMuu101
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/02/15 05:39 AM
Yay! Get in the Bee!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 07/09/15 07:00 PM
It was in. Then it's back out... Sometimes it doesn't pay to get too excited and rush. It costs... I hope to have it up and going before the Nats. I am really getting good at changing things on it, though!
Posted By: fc7_plumcrazy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/27/15 02:08 AM
how is the current status?
Posted By: MuuMuu101
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/27/15 04:45 AM
how is the current status?
Yeah, are you going to have it ready for Woodward?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/28/15 07:19 PM
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/28/15 07:22 PM
Not the best pics, but the 383 had been together since the mid '80's. So it was due for a freshening.
Caught in the nick of time.
Plum wore out.
Being in focus doesn't make them look any better.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/28/15 07:32 PM
So it was all fresh and new, with a new crank, ready to go back in. Which it did. Then it ran for almost 5 seconds and stopped. Then it wouldn't turn over.
In the case of "I've never seen this before", the forged 383 crank was not drilled for a pilot bushing. Go figure. So after pulling the engine, replacing the thrust bearings I crushed with the input shaft, cutting the end off the input shaft of a $2500 transmission, and putting it back together, it still wouldn't turn over.
So back out it came. More off the input shaft. More measuring. Back together. No turn over. So we finally figured out the two year old Year One positive battery cable was junk. Replaced, fired it up, and finally I was able to drive it.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/28/15 07:37 PM
So I got it home in the nick of time. It spent almost a month in a buddies garage, but it was home for the Nats weekend.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/28/15 07:40 PM
It made it probably 200 miles on the Friday of the Nats. I'm prerry sure this pic is from Saturday night in Heath, it's a screen shot off a video of the cruising I found on YouTube.
I would say I put about 400 miles on it the weekend of the Nats.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/28/15 07:41 PM
Just a picture I took while we were cleaning it out and up before the Nats.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/28/15 07:50 PM
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/28/15 07:52 PM
A couple more of my favorites.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/28/15 07:59 PM
Now, for progress. It is still a running, driving machine. It is in need of a carb rebuild or replacement badly, and loaded up quit a bit after sitting during the Nats and after. So the oil needs changed, again, and the plugs need changed, again, and it needs some carb work. It doesn't run nearly as good as it should, but that will come once I really start tuning it. It feels good,but will feel better with new plugs and a better fuel delivery system.
Having the engine out 3-4 times, I need to put new exhaust gaskets on it, these are roached.
The front suspension and steering system should be gone through over the winter or early spring. The foundation is in place and strong, everything is new or rebuilt, now it is time to get it all dialed in.
The short list:
Carb rebuild or replacement.
Exhaust gaskets.
Front suspension
Steering.
That will do the safety items.
Then I want to get my frame connectors in, maybe some different rear springs.
More aluminum.(Dress up. I've outgrown the Mopar Performance look)
Drive it...
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 10/31/15 09:39 PM
lokkin good Darrin.
Posted By: DLewis
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/01/15 05:54 AM
Love it! How a Bee should look.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/01/15 02:35 PM
Thanks! Any closer to paint on the Runner?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/01/15 02:37 PM
Love it! How a Bee should look.
Thank you. It has been a fun ride so far.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/01/15 09:42 PM
nope...dead in the water. my guy got copd and can't finish it.paint is pretty much off the worry list, I'll just enjoy driving it.
Posted By: Shoozy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/01/15 10:04 PM
If it was easy....
Love your persistence - that's what the hobby is all about.
Look forward to seeing you next year out on Woodward
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/02/15 10:34 PM
nope...dead in the water. my guy got copd and can't finish it.paint is pretty much off the worry list, I'll just enjoy driving it.
At least you can enjoy it! We need to get together sometime when it warms back up.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/02/15 10:38 PM
If it was easy....
Love your persistence - that's what the hobby is all about.
Look forward to seeing you next year out on Woodward
If I didn't keep going I would have a big, expensive paperweight!
I have already said I was going two years (or was it three) in a row now. I'll just say this time that I'm setting aside vacation for it.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/03/15 12:34 AM
pretty much the way I look at it. It's not in a million pieces, and off the road for 10+ years. Had it out today, and had a nice drive. and as long as I'm in primer, no worries about scratching new paint. agreed on the get together.
Posted By: fc7_plumcrazy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/05/15 11:58 AM
like your Bee a lot even though I preferred the old slots
Carsten
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/05/15 08:06 PM
pretty much the way I look at it. It's not in a million pieces, and off the road for 10+ years. Had it out today, and had a nice drive. and as long as I'm in primer, no worries about scratching new paint. agreed on the get together.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/05/15 08:08 PM
like your Bee a lot even though I preferred the old slots
Carsten
Thanks.
I have always liked Auto Drags better. I like Super Tricks better than both of them.
Posted By: fc7_plumcrazy
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/06/15 12:55 AM
the only one who has to like it is you!
Enjoy
Carsten
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/08/15 06:14 PM
It must be very quite and peaceful where you live??
Great job on getting your car going.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/09/15 01:01 AM
the only one who has to like it is you!
Enjoy
Carsten
Lol. Yes indeed!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 11/09/15 01:02 AM
It must be very quite and peaceful where you live??
Great job on getting your car going.
Yes it is. Farm traffic and, well, farm traffic. Frequently I break the silence with a chain saw, (or a big block Mopar).
Posted By: Kidsixpack
Re: Triple Black Bee - 12/15/15 09:29 AM
That car just look like it's fun to play with! It really reminds me of my first Bee when I was 19.
KID
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/21/16 01:44 PM
Finally got it out this past weekend, and true to form, the pickup coil went out. Waiting on one from Rock Auto. Maybe this weekend I'll get to play with it. Scored a cheap power steering pump pulley since the one I picked up at the Nats was bent and shook the alternator bolts out of it. So I'll hopefully get it changed out this weekend. Carb is rebuilt, and now I'm down to an oil change and a set of plugs (and the aforementioned pickup coil) from driving it.
Dirty, but it will get a bath this weekend.
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/23/16 09:03 PM
I pulled mine out last week to get the mower out.....
Bee looks good.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/24/16 02:30 PM
I pulled mine out last week to get the mower out.....
Bee looks good.
While it's out... Lol.
Thanks
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/24/16 05:53 PM
been too much on the plate lately, and we switched to 12 hour shifts thanks to our smiling good ol boy used car salesman new plant manager...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 04/24/16 10:55 PM
That sounds like fun. I finally get to tinker with it today. Got the pickup coil in and all my other chores done, now it's Bee time.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/15/18 04:10 AM
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/15/18 04:13 AM
Got it broken in.
It sounds pretty good. But I'm pretty tired of pulling engines in and out of it.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/15/18 04:17 AM
I did something I never thought I would, and put some steel wheels on it.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/15/18 04:19 AM
Then added some caps.
I don't think it looks bad. But there is a LOT of black on the car. I will either go with a new set of slots, a set of Cragars, or some Billet Specialties.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/15/18 04:21 AM
In 2018 my plan is to fix the left inner fender, paint the engine bay, weld up my floor pans, repair the trunk floor and rear tail panel, and then put it back together for some action in 2019. As soon as my new shop is finished, the progress will pick up.
Posted By: RUNCHARGER
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/15/18 05:17 AM
Interesting, Yes I prefer the slots or some Cragars on it for some flash I think. This is one of my favorite cars on Moparts.
Posted By: MuuMuu101
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/15/18 05:37 AM
I liked your old slots way better. Great progress.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/15/18 06:44 AM
Interesting, Yes I prefer the slots or some Cragars on it for some flash I think. This is one of my favorite cars on Moparts.
I really think the slots looked the best on it. Even though I LOVED the Centerlines.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/15/18 06:45 AM
I liked your old slots way better. Great progress.
Thanks, man. I haven't reached the progress you've made yet. But I'm slowly getting there!
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/16/18 12:36 PM
slots are great too
Posted By: Anonymous
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/17/18 06:22 AM
I think the centerlines look way better than the slots. The cragars look good too.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/17/18 07:46 AM
I liked the way the car looked with both. I may have to try Cragars this time.
Posted By: MuuMuu101
Re: Triple Black Bee - 01/18/18 06:30 AM
I liked your old slots way better. Great progress.
Thanks, man. I haven't reached the progress you've made yet. But I'm slowly getting there!
Hey, I really haven't done much myself lately. I drive it once a week, but you're making way more work than I've ever done myself.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/25/18 11:26 AM
No progress has really been made, but my plans sure have changed...
I was gearing up to do some neglecting of the Bee while I dove into a much more budget friendly project, an A-body. That kind of got derailed when I hit the swap meet in Columbus a couple weeks ago. Right now I'm rolling on some 15x7" steel wheels with red stripe caps and Mickey Thompson tires, but I've pretty much regretted selling my Auto Drags since I did it. But they paid for my rocker arms, so I digress.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/25/18 11:29 AM
I ended up buying a set of 4, 15x10's for the rear and 15x6's for the front for a little more than a single wheel cost new. Now that is a recoverable expense, of course. Nothing a couple hours of well placed overtime can't fix. But then I was perusing For B-Bodies Only in the parts section, looking for something or other and ran across a black 4-door '69 Coronet. Pics looked solid, there wasn't a lot of interest, and once I called and talked to the guy about it...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/25/18 11:34 AM
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/25/18 11:37 AM
The car is super solid, the trunk floor, extensions, lower quarters, and tail panel, all which need help on my car, are darn near perfect. The fenders are not the nicest I've owned, but they are better than the ones on the Bee, and there is no rot in the dog leg. They are solid. GTSuperbee actually started parting the car, which is native to Ohio, and if he hadn't it might be tempting to drive the darn thing. But it will give its life to make my Bee complete. I now have all the metal I need to do the Bee except for a roof skin, the back window metal, and if the right quarter is really bad, I'll need one of those, as well.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/25/18 11:49 AM
So at this point, it's still possible to strip the parts car, make some of my money back, and pursue the A-body again.
When I woke up one day last week after work, I was cruising the Book, and found a set of seat covers for my Bee from a fellow Facebook/Moparts member. They were used, but still in amazing shape. A couple small spots on the front seat bottoms need repaired. The back seat is immaculate.
So at this point, I stopped fighting it. There are too many things being thrown my way to ignore, so onward I go on the Bee. I would love to take it to the Mopar show at Trails in May, and being 50 years of Super Bee at Carlisle, there is a strong urge to make it there, too. So it's time to develop a plan and get to work.
Stay tuned, folks...
Posted By: basketcase
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/25/18 04:12 PM
nice score! Hey a buddy is redoing a '69 four door, and needs these three brackets. They go from the tail light panel to the crossmember for the rear bumper...
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 02/26/18 01:29 AM
I know the ones I have are good. Let me see if I am going to need them for my car before I sell them.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/01/18 12:02 PM
I did some running for parts this week. Picked up some bumpers that are better than what I have, but still perfect for a ratty Bee. Also picked up a Lakewood for it and a small block Lakewood when my dream of putting together a 4-speed 340 car comes true.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/01/18 12:05 PM
I finished up putting the steel wheels and dog dishes on it with Mickey Thompson tires. I don't like steel wheels because they are the small block Chevy of Mopar wheels. But they add to the overall look of the car. Or at least match it.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/01/18 12:06 PM
The parts buying will continue. I'm making progress.
Posted By: crowbait
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/02/18 05:03 AM
I could use the rear rails in my charger if you do not need them....
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/02/18 06:34 AM
I could use the rear rails in my charger if you do not need them....
If the weather ever starts cooperating, I'll get to taking what I need off of it. All the rails are fair game.
Posted By: rocksmopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/02/18 04:52 PM
Steel wheels look great on black Mopars..
Posted By: PTHemi
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/02/18 05:16 PM
looks great not too many black 4 spd. black Bees survived
Posted By: crowbait
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/03/18 01:11 AM
What else do you need for your car? I have some b body stuff...
BLACK wheels look GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/06/18 01:55 AM
looks great not too many black 4 spd. black Bees survived
Is that a Bee or one of the R/T's you were telling me about via PM?
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/06/18 01:56 AM
What else do you need for your car? I have some b body stuff...
Right now I'm just to the point I need to take inventory of what I do have and ship the rest. Lol. I think my most pressing need outside of drivetrain parts is a pair of straight bumper brackets. I got a fairly straight bumper, but man, the brackets sure match the old one!
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/06/18 01:57 AM
Steel wheels look great on black Mopars..
They just seem to be done a bit much for my tastes. But it's what I have, so they will see some time on there.
Posted By: OhioMopar
Re: Triple Black Bee - 03/06/18 01:59 AM
BLACK wheels look GREAT!!!!!!!!!!!!
Overdone. It's not the look. It's the frequency of seeing them.
It's okay. You can be jealous of the aftermarket speaker hanging down... 
No, that starter won't be going back on anytime ever.
You can see the holes to the left of the picutre, and under the brake pedal. It got the screwdriver solidity test. The rest if very solid. Looks like a couple patches are in order.
The passenger floor wasn't replaced, but was primered it looks like. Just a crappy pic.
