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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: 300by500] #137442
12/31/08 10:11 PM
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That black Cuda in that picture looks "over restored" if you ask me

Cheers Dave and a HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE

Alan

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: anlauto] #137443
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Thanks Alan!!!! A Safe and Happy New Year to you and the rest of the group here at Moparts.

DW

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: ECS] #137444
01/05/09 08:58 PM
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Last week we put this car in the air and took a lot of "before" pictures. Many of the factory markings are still very noticible. We found the outer tie-rods, pitman arm and idler arm were marked with a cream or off-white color paint (inspection marks), has anyone seen this color before? If so was it Cream (like DY2/DY3) or White? Very hard to tell and with grease covering them for many years it mayhave yellowed.

Dave W will post some picures soon. Thanks - Dave


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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: DodgeMaterial] #137445
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Hi Dave. Here are some photos from the day we had the car in the air and spent hours going over everything. (Thanks again for all your help with shuffling the car back and forth.) Tom has the pictures of the tie rods with the cream color inspection marks. Here are a couple that I had taken showing the "arrow" and the letter "I" underneath it. Remember how both sides were marked the same way? Also shown are the yellow paint marks on the torsion bars. The undercoating was obviously applied after they were in place and marked.




Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: ECS] #137446
01/06/09 07:40 PM
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great work, i just love looking over all these original pictures seeing things that I can incorporate into my cars. I have a 69 barrcuda formula S that was found in a barn, original owner and I just love looking over the original aspects of this car, great work, keep it up.

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: Sixpackman340] #137447
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Thank you Justin!!!! Your response is EXACTLY the type of input that makes this project worth while. There have been many incorrect assessments as to the purpose of this venture. The true reason is very simple. For years the OE judging has been perceived as a forum where only the big horsepower, high dollar cars were welcome. There seems to be a large gap separating those who own a Hemi or 440 Six Pack vehicle and the “rest” of the cars that make up the market. The fact is that the bread and butter of this hobby was established by the cars that are constantly overlooked and/or ignored. What better vehicle than a slant six, four door Valiant to change the outlook and attitude of the OE program? I hope that this project will open the door for many who feel that they cannot be part of this program due to lack of cubic inches or perceived importance as related to certain models. This hobby belongs to each and every person that takes the time to help preserve it’s past. Regardless of the area of interest or type of vehicle, it takes ALL our members to keep things moving in a positive direction!!

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: ECS] #137448
01/06/09 11:27 PM
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Could not have been better said. Excellent Dave.
Jules

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: JulesdaWiperman] #137449
01/06/09 11:33 PM
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Interesting stuff so far, can't wait to watch the progress.

I didn't think anyone would want to restore a 4door Valiant......

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: ECS] #137450
01/07/09 01:27 AM
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Quote:

Thank you Justin!!!! Your response is EXACTLY the type of input that makes this project worth while. There have been many incorrect assessments as to the purpose of this venture. The true reason is very simple. For years the OE judging has been perceived as a forum where only the big horsepower, high dollar cars were welcome. There seems to be a large gap separating those who own a Hemi or 440 Six Pack vehicle and the “rest” of the cars that make up the market. The fact is that the bread and butter of this hobby was established by the cars that are constantly overlooked and/or ignored. What better vehicle than a slant six, four door Valiant to change the outlook and attitude of the OE program? I hope that this project will open the door for many who feel that they cannot be part of this program due to lack of cubic inches or perceived importance as related to certain models. This hobby belongs to each and every person that takes the time to help preserve it’s past. Regardless of the area of interest or type of vehicle, it takes ALL our members to keep things moving in a positive direction!!




Dave, out of everything you've ever written on here, this is the best example of what sets you apart. I think everyone can applaud those motives.


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Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: Iceman01] #137451
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Dave is a true 'Car-cheologist' whithout which the hobby would lack valuable information, insight and products. I feel fortunate to have come across ECS and Dave. When someone pushes the envelope in any area, whether it be science, technology or a hobby, we all benefit from their work and discoveries. Thanks for your effort and attention to detail in creating your products. My vehicle looks that much better for it and my future projects will too.

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: GY371GTX] #137452
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Thanks for the guys! Here are a few pictures showing what we found when the seats were removed. You can see the density of the carpet and the floor pans of the car. Also notice the seat "flap" of vinyl that was made to cover the attaching clips. I don't remember seeing this feature on the Challenger rear seat when we disassembled it. Has anyone else seen this vinyl flap feature in vehicles other than an A Body?





Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: ECS] #137453
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Here are a few interesting pictures of features that are a bit odd . Notice the different screws that hold the washer bottle to the inner fender. The ground wire side uses a special washer. The carpet protrudes past the floor trim. It should have been cut to fit behind the aluminum trim plate.





Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: ECS] #137454
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Here are a few others....





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Dave can I/we get another pic of the ground wire screw? Thanks

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: ECS] #137456
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Will the rust in the upper cowl area be addressed?

Is that a crack in the steering column cover and will it be replaced? It's quite possible the crack has been there since day one.


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Dave can I/we get another pic of the ground wire screw? Thanks




Hi Ron....I will remove it and take a close up photo. I wonder if this was meant to be used for the ground wire screws in most vehicles?

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Will the rust in the upper cowl area be addressed?

Is that a crack in the steering column cover and will it be replaced? It's quite possible the crack has been there since day one.




Hi Alan…..the surface is not “rusted” as it appears to be in the picture. For some reason the flash makes everything look ten times worse than it actually is. (The carpet looks excellent but when we took pictures with a flash, the photos showed stained areas that could not be seen in normal light!) That stuff almost wipes completely away with some light machine oil and a soft cloth. I can guarantee that there will be ZERO surface oxidation on any of the bare metal parts when we are finished. The mark on the steering column part was a scuff and not a crack. It should be relatively easy to “erase”.

Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: ECS] #137459
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A few more under dash shots....





Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: 70challrtse] #137460
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Dave can I/we get another pic of the ground wire screw? Thanks




Here you go Mr. R
This is DEFINITELY the original screw that was used because the undercoating was still on the treads as we removed it. It looks like it was made for this application and not a piece that was inserted because they ran out of the "correct" version screw. The washer head is separate and covers the entire ground wire metal grommet.




Re: TAKING IT TO THE "NEW" NEXT LEVEL!! [Re: ECS] #137461
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I've found something simular holding carpet down under the rear seat of a 1974 E Body


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