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Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? #1374288 01/22/13 05:06 PM 01/22/13 05:06 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,195 Melbourne , Australia LA360 OP master
LA360 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,195 Melbourne , Australia	What are you all using to limit the forward/rearward movement of your engine when running a motor plate? Are you using anything at all? I am helping out a friend with some parts on his car, it's a World RB block and Powerslide trans. He has an engine plate and the standard trans mount. No mid plate unfortunately. The engine bay is painted and there isn't a lot of room in the lower section of the bay. I would love to see some pics of your set ups, or hear your opinions on whether they are required or not? Thanks in advance Alan Jones

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: LA360] #1374289 01/22/13 05:13 PM 01/22/13 05:13 PM
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408strokerdart master 4 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West	Yes. They are required. The plate only gives the required strength in the torsional shear plane. You need something ridgid for fore/aft in the car. Usually done with a couple of rod ends in a tube and a couple of brackets. The original engine mounts are a great place to attach to the engine. Opinions will vary here for sure.

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: LA360] #1374290 01/22/13 05:18 PM 01/22/13 05:18 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Yes you need them(at least 1)... if the car launches hard it could bottom out the drive shaft... I use one on both sides of the engine attached to the motor mount ears.... sorry no pics

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: LA360] #1374291 01/22/13 05:36 PM 01/22/13 05:36 PM
Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,303 Penna 7 70satelliteguy pro stock
70satelliteguy pro stock 7 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,303 Penna	I run a front motor plate on my MP Megablock without any midplate or engine limiters. I run a standard transmission mount and solid motor mounts.I bought a mid plate from S&W but did not have enough room to install with stock firewall,inner fenders and chassis. Have been doing this for the last 6 years without any problems. B body 3600 lbs.,572 motor mid 9's with 1.30 60 fts. Best of 8.62/161 mph with juice! It does leave HARD and has not broken anything yet. Probably 400 + passes! Mike

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: 70satelliteguy] #1374292 01/22/13 05:57 PM 01/22/13 05:57 PM
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6bblFLASH master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 3,868 N.E. Ohio	I use the ears on the trans.[727]. They are just infront of the crossmember. I believe they are there to hold the trans during assembly. A simple strut/rod back to the crossmember will do it. 70` Cuda`,440 6BBL Jerico,Dana 4.56 Still on 93 Pump Gas 9.87 @ 136/1.31-60ft.`09 Mopar Nationals PASSON PERFORMANCE "Stick-Shift" Champ! 2013 StickShift Challenge Winner@ Mopar Nationals!

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1374293 01/22/13 06:04 PM 01/22/13 06:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394 Q Quicktree I Win
Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	never used them, but the plate has reinforcement.several cars set up similar with no problems.

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: LA360] #1374294 01/22/13 07:14 PM 01/22/13 07:14 PM
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fishy340 master Joined: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,112 LONG ISLAND	S & w sells a universal kit like 408 described. Its not expensive and all the parts are there.

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: 6bblFLASH] #1374295 01/22/13 08:12 PM 01/22/13 08:12 PM
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dvw I Live Here Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 10,197 MI, usa	Quote: I use the ears on the trans.[727]. They are just infront of the crossmember. I believe they are there to hold the trans during assembly. A simple strut/rod back to the crossmember will do it. Me to. Doug 7557631-339.jpg (255 downloads)

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: Quicktree] #1374296 01/22/13 08:23 PM 01/22/13 08:23 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: never used them, but the plate has reinforcement.several cars set up similar with no problems. Tony.. I dont know why you have those little tubes out there behind the plate at the outside edge... they do nothing

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1374297 01/22/13 09:33 PM 01/22/13 09:33 PM
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CHAPPER master C Joined: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,410 Belpre,Ohio	Quote: Quote: never used them, but the plate has reinforcement.several cars set up similar with no problems. Tony.. I dont know why you have those little tubes out there behind the plate at the outside edge... they do nothing Those should hold a small block just fine. If you like drag racing, support your local track.

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: CHAPPER] #1374298 01/22/13 09:50 PM 01/22/13 09:50 PM
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68shifter super stock 6 Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 1,170 MI	I used 2 off my rear trans crossmember to the bellhousing. 1/2 CM rod with 3/8 ends. Then a rubber mount on the trans. I have a 1/4 front alum plate and a .090 mid plate made of steel. Makes trans removal and clutch work a lot nicer. 7557812-image.jpg (202 downloads) 68' Barracuda (4 speed) 64' Savoy (4 speed) 65' Satellite (girl tranny)

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1374299 01/23/13 12:29 AM 01/23/13 12:29 AM
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J_BODY I Live Here J Joined: Apr 2003 Posts: 13,276 aZLiViN	Mike, looks like to me that those little bars were welded to hold the plate that the motor plate bolts to....rather than just using an "L" off the frame rail. I didn't use one for years on my RB Mirada... until I was chasing a tail shaft breakage issue, then we installed one. That wasn't the problem. Last edited by J_BODY; 01/23/13 12:31 AM.

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: J_BODY] #1374300 01/23/13 12:42 AM 01/23/13 12:42 AM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Mike, looks like to me that those little bars were welded to hold the plate that the motor plate bolts to....rather than just using an "L" off the frame rail. I didn't use one for years on my RB Mirada... until I was chasing a tail shaft breakage issue, then we installed one. That wasn't the problem. I swear I see a bracket "L" welded to the frame and he is holding the top of the plate with those bars

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1374301 01/24/13 05:41 PM 01/24/13 05:41 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,195 Melbourne , Australia LA360 OP master
LA360 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,195 Melbourne , Australia	Thanks for the replies Will have to get under the car today and have a look and see where we can put something. Alan Jones

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: LA360] #1374302 01/24/13 06:06 PM 01/24/13 06:06 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	Quote: Thanks for the replies Will have to get under the car today and have a look and see where we can put something. Look at maybe going to the oil pan bolts at the front corners and going forward... if you use those I would use 2 limiters... if you have zero momentum its easier to hold it still

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1374303 01/24/13 06:12 PM 01/24/13 06:12 PM
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Quicktree I Win Q Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 32,394	Quote: Quote: never used them, but the plate has reinforcement.several cars set up similar with no problems. Tony.. I dont know why you have those little tubes out there behind the plate at the outside edge... they do nothing been 300+ passes no problems,

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: Quicktree] #1374304 01/24/13 06:17 PM 01/24/13 06:17 PM
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ROSSIO mopar R Joined: Feb 2009 Posts: 401 dayton,ohio	after breaking 3 tailstock housings--i got smart and fixed the problem----FLEX---- I did what DVW did to fix mine,i made bars from the trans mount to the ears on the trans---FIX IT--never broke another ext housing 1970 DART B1MC N/A 8.86@ [Email]155 3200 lb on 275 DR 5.30 @ 130 1/8

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1374305 01/24/13 06:27 PM 01/24/13 06:27 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,195 Melbourne , Australia LA360 OP master
LA360 OP master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,195 Melbourne , Australia	Quote: Quote: Thanks for the replies Will have to get under the car today and have a look and see where we can put something. Look at maybe going to the oil pan bolts at the front corners and going forward... if you use those I would use 2 limiters... if you have zero momentum its easier to hold it still We looked at the pan bolts, I might see if I can go from the transmission case first. Thanks again everyone Alan Jones

Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: ROSSIO] #1374306 01/24/13 06:28 PM 01/24/13 06:28 PM
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Re: Engine travel limiters with an Engine plate? [Re: fed] #1374307 01/24/13 07:28 PM 01/24/13 07:28 PM
Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,595 Great Neck,LI,new york hemi-itis I Live Here
hemi-itis I Live Here Joined: Dec 2007 Posts: 12,595 Great Neck,LI,new york	Thought I've read that it's NOT good to go to the trans ears I need to do something,but don't see a good spot HEMI-ITIS has no cure. My condition is fully BLOWN!!

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